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Aaron Bergman's tweets, June 2024

Every public tweet, reply, quote tweet and retweet that Aaron Bergman (@AaronBergman18 on X, formerly Twitter) posted in June 2024 and has not deleted: 454 posts, oldest first, times in UTC. Each heading links to the original post on X. When Aaron replies to or quotes someone, their tweet appears as a blockquote with their name; those words are theirs, and everything outside the blockquotes is Aaron's.

This page is one month of the complete archive of Aaron Bergman's tweets, which updates automatically every few hours. Previous month: May 2024. Next month: July 2024.

Saturday, June 1, 2024

Quote tweet, 00:06 UTC · 10 likes

Big if true (literally this time)

Quoting Stephan J. Guyenet (@sguyenet): We now have two large, convincing randomized controlled trials reporting that replacing regular salt with potassium-enriched salt substitute (~75% NaCl, 25% KCl) reduces cardiovascular events and probably all-cause mortality.
https://doi.org/10.1056/nejmoa2105675
https://doi.org/10.1038/s41591-023-02286-8

Reply, 15:45 UTC · 3 likes

Based based based based based based

(Less dramatic, more typical story: doctor insisted that the maximum dose of a very boring, safe, non-controlled medication was 60mg/day. I was like "it says 80 here" holding the uptodate app but I didn't push it)

Reply to @adam__isom, 16:23 UTC · 2 likes

adam ✧ ❥ ~ (@adam__isom): I actually appreciate this in EA thinking, this motivation from uncertainty

by contrast, EAs who've convinced themselves that either (a) software jobs are gonna go away, or (b) AGI is definitely a real thing coming--these un-humble positions decrease my credence in EA thinking

(quoting @AaronBergman18: With obligatory “idk enough to be super confident”, my initial take is: This should be extremely illegal. P(sentient) is way too high and it’s not already integrated into the economy. It’s like octopus factory farming with a ton of uncertainty thrown in)

Uhhhh AGI is definitely a real thing coming (ok not definitely, but >80% for sure, I wanna say >90%)

It looks like an engineering problem now. Claude opus + internet + code + best in class robotics and sensors is AGI. This isn’t trivial to put together lol but the point is that

Thread, continued, 16:24 UTC · 2 likes

there are no big breakthroughs that need to happen, afaict

Am I wrong?

Reply to @strangestloop, 16:27 UTC · 2 likes

Loopy (@strangestloop): Tell me about your most normal friend. What are their hobbies? How do they spend their time?

Ultimate frisbee. He might be reading this lol

Reply to @daniellellecco, 16:29 UTC · 3 likes

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Hi 32 I’m Aaron

Reply to @SpacedOutMatt, 17:27 UTC · 3 likes

Matt 🔸 (@SpacedOutMatt): I feel like The Navigation Fund is really under-discussed. EA priorities, a billionaire backer, led by the former head of The Humane League, and it seems like almost no one has heard of it? https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/NAcN98bACuwcnB32H/the-navigation-fund-launched-is-hiring-a-program-officer-to

What

Reply to @inerati, 19:01 UTC · 2 likes

(The tweet being replied to by @inerati is no longer available.)

It is my God given right to be able to physically acquire anything anywhere at any time of day (this is more hyperbole than satire)

Reply to @Kirsten3531, 20:26 UTC · 5 likes

Kirsten (@Kirsten3531): My pet peeve is when people say, "Kids are so creative; they have such a fresh perspective; their ideas are the best; everyone should try to think more like kids!"

Kids have lots of ideas that obviously won't work because they don't know anything! Stop embarrassing yourself!

It’s a weird situation where they’re kinda put on a pedestal in this way but not *really* taken seriously and treated like the real person they are

Thread, continued, 20:27 UTC · 3 likes

Not being willing to say (nicely, obviously) “no that won’t work because _____” if the kid is clearly earnest about wanting to know encapsulates this dynamic. It’s such a pet peeve of mine lol https://www.aaronbergman.net/p/kids-are-people-too

Reply to @ilex_ulmus, 20:29 UTC · 6 likes

Holly ⏸️ Elmore (@ilex_ulmus): While I love talking to children bc of their fresh perspectives, I think it wrong to admonish adults to be more like them or to value their strengths over adult strengths in a way that takes our skills and mindsets for granted. “Youth = shiny, good” is a trap we should avoid.

(quoting @Kirsten3531: My pet peeve is when people say, "Kids are so creative; they have such a fresh perspective; their ideas are the best; everyone should try to think more like kids!" Kids have lots of ideas that obviously won't work because they don't know anything! Stop embarrassing yourself!)

I wanna have a kid on my podcast lol (with parental permission and review)

I think it’s very weird that I don’t interact with anyone in the like 8-16 range basically ever. I wanna know what life is like

Reply to @Mira___Mira, 20:47 UTC · 3 likes

Mira (@Mira___Mira): "Solve this equation: 3*7+5"

That's not an equation, that's an expression. You evaluate not solve it. Nothing's being equated and it has no free variables. Its normal form is 26.

Deep

Reply to @adambinksmith, 22:44 UTC · 2 likes

Adam Binksmith (@adambinksmith): took most of my EAG 1-1s outside today and walked 14 miles lol

Based based based based based

Reply to @exfatloss, 23:55 UTC · 4 likes

exfatloss🥛 (@exfatloss): Is this a real thing in lean people? Does anyone actually get satiated on a meaningful level from volume?

Honest question, I've never experienced this in my life.

(quoting @zachary135791: Butternut squash is an elite option when cutting weight When I go from bulking to cutting I will gradually choose foods with higher volume to calorie ratios Could look like starting with rice, then potatoes, then squash. Finish the cut with mostly fruit and veggies I’m always…)

I think it’s like a real but “thin” kind of satiation - wears off quickly and is much weaker than “not even thinking about food”

I have no idea what I’m talking about but it kinda makes sense, like your gut/brain trying to estimate energy consumed is gonna want to know volume

Sunday, June 2, 2024

Reply to @GjMcGowan, 17:20 UTC · 3 likes

George McGowan (@GjMcGowan): @JesseTayRiver I don’t even get this. Like was the bf an ML researcher? Or she was just worried about his email job being automated?

I assumed the latter but good q

Reply to @SpacedOutMatt, 17:22 UTC · 1 like

Matt 🔸 (@SpacedOutMatt): @AaronBergman18

I’m built different

Reply to @Kirsten3531, 17:28 UTC · 3 likes

Kirsten (@Kirsten3531): We hired a local 15yo to babysit while I was in the next room

(Didn't really work, baby hated it but) people tolerated the idea of me being in the next room but were truly horrified that we might eventually let her babysit while we're out!

(quoting @Mc_eM: @HannahPosted When I was 12-14 in SA I was regularly babysitting other kids. Here in the UK a friend's 13yr old sometimes dogsits for us and people act like we're letting her play with a gun)

Wild

Reply to @notanastronomer, 17:31 UTC · 2 likes

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Damn that’s a lot. I would die

Reply to @AndyMasley, 17:53 UTC · 2 likes

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What

Reply to @exfatloss, 17:55 UTC · 3 likes

exfatloss🥛 (@exfatloss): Micronutrients are a psyop. Like "microbiome" it's just a magic word for "I don't know anything but do what I say."

(quoting @KetoCarnivore: This whole thread is fascinating (and there's a paper at the end), but I want to highlight this idea, that not only do animals eat for nutrient coverage, but they seek to _minimize micronutrient excess_.)

Lol what? Bad take

Reply to @sentientlentils, 17:55 UTC · 2 likes

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Big if true

Monday, June 3, 2024

Reply to @liz_love_lace, 00:11 UTC · 4 likes

Liz Lovelace (@liz_love_lace): most people in our circles who consider themselves "autistic" have never met a real autist

that being said, i do like that we're starting to be able to recognize and describe slight autism, it's obviously a bell curve and it's valuable info

Bell curve, eh? Who are the least autistic people around?

Quote tweet, 00:37 UTC · 52 likes

The man writes

Quoting James (@grep_cat_): Did not realize Unsong was such a large book

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Reply to @historyinmemes, 13:32 UTC · 2 likes

Historic Vids (@historyinmemes): Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping bodyguards acknowledging each other

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Real

Quote tweet, 14:02 UTC · 11 likes

Now do planes

Quoting Loopy (@strangestloop): gn

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Reply to @yifever, 20:34 UTC · 11 likes

yifei e/λ (meetmeinshibuya Oct 18) (@yifever): isn't it crazy how no one in Asia takes SSRIs and they're all just completely fine?

Are they all just completely fine?

Tweet, 21:19 UTC · 25 likes

Most interesting line from @ZachWeiner on 80k about space didn’t have anything to do with space directly

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Reply to @AlignmentGuts, 21:20 UTC · 4 likes

AI Struggler (@AlignmentGuts): Where are you getting your potassium supplements? I can’t find any that don’t have tiny doses per pill like 10% DRD. I don’t want to have to slam a fistful every day dawg

Salt replacement (losalt is one brand)

Tuesday, June 4, 2024

Reply to @LinchZhang, 01:07 UTC · 16 likes

Linch (@LinchZhang): Here's a dynamic I see sometimes.

Alice: Man that article has a inaccurate/misleading/horrifying/objectively Satanic headline.
Bob: Did you know, *actually* article writers don't write their own headlines?
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But what I care about is the misleading headline, not your org chart

It’s relevant when there’s ire directed at the writer though, as there definitely sometimes is

Reply to @xlr8harder, 01:55 UTC · 13 likes

xlr8harder (@xlr8harder): When you're just making stuff up, you can add as many decimal places as you like.

I've decided we're going to be safe infinity + 1 times.

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FWIW I don’t know of a single other person who’d endorse anything like this degree of confidence. It’s silly frankly

Reply, 02:18 UTC · 1 like

(Jk and indeed)

Thread, continued, 02:20 UTC · 1 like

Fr though I don’t expect a pod on mostly the technical reasons space civilization is hard to unintentionally convince me that the US senate is more legitimate than I previously thought

Reply to @absurdlymax, 02:34 UTC · 3 likes

Max Alexander (@absurdlymax): @arithmoquine @OliRandom (from @AaronBergman18)

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More is only better if you have a brain that can do geometry

Quote tweet, 09:46 UTC · 7 likes

Real

Quoting henry (@arithmoquine): fyi the real reason i've been ignoring you is:
- i want to reply
- i want to be able to give you the attention and focus you deserve
- i never feel like i have enough energy to properly do that

Reply to @absurdlymax, 11:35 UTC · 2 likes

Max Alexander (@absurdlymax): @bellaforristal Okay I didn't want to say anything but priors confirmed

Lol

Reply to @eigenrobot, 11:39 UTC · 3 likes

eigenrobot (@eigenrobot): people will do this online too

it seems like an impediment to communication at first. but understood correctly is also a pathway to many abilities that some consider to be unnatural

(quoting @simonsarris: In person it feels rare that people hear the words I say. I say something, and people pattern-match my words to words they've heard before, and respond to that instead.)

Online most communication is text, which is both the words themselves and (usually, as long as no stealth editing) a record of what was actually said

The analog for spoken conversation, transcription, is uncommon

Tweet, 12:34 UTC · 83 likes

“Oversharing” is a psyop to prevent people from making friends

Reply to @mattecapu, 12:52 UTC · 3 likes

Matteo Capucci (@mattecapu): why do we have fav colors and not fav smells, or tastes, or pitches

Speak for urself

Reply to @ChanaMessinger, 13:52 UTC · 10 likes

Chana (@ChanaMessinger): What's the shortest way to say "either doing X when you shouldn't or not-doing X when you should"?

“Doing the wrong thing”?

Wednesday, June 5, 2024

Reply, 09:23 UTC · 1 like

it’s really not obvious what the assumed counterfactual world would be. Like is congress allowed to delegate some functions to other agencies or is this like a bad post-hoc epicycle to avoid actually standing by the original strong statement

Thread, continued, 09:24 UTC · 2 likes

The reason I’m willing to stand by “Abolish the FDA” though is that like there is a cluster of pretty simple scenarios I can think of which is just like “repeal the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act of 1938 and then let the messy real world play out”

Reply to @NathanB60857242, 09:28 UTC · 4 likes

Nathan Barnard (@NathanB60857242): There's an excessive appetite for contrarian and extreme views. I think this predictably leads people to make bad predictions.

For instance:
- e/acc vs pause
- alt-right vs breadtube
- popular books like "how the establishment got away with it" and "the shock doctrine"

I disagree with a bunch of things

- Pause is pretty obviously more plausibly good than e/acc. It’s like calling Alex Jones and Joe Biden the two extremes of American politics

- the changes you mention around mech interp, other alignment work, and governance seem like

Thread, continued, 09:30 UTC · 2 likes

reasonable updates to make given the actual path AI has taken. I guess this doesn’t explain the mech interp thing as well idk, but the other two make intuitive sense

Reply to @NoahTopper, 16:37 UTC · 2 likes

Quinoah 🔍⏸️ (@NoahTopper): @JesseTayRiver @FrostedSapling I hope you’re prepared to ruin some nice clothes

Perhaps a suit

Tweet, 16:43 UTC · 22 likes

Can we have a week where nothing AI-related happens? Plz

Reply to @RYChappell, 16:51 UTC · 3 likes

Richard Y. Chappell🔸 (@RYChappell): This site needs more epiphenomenalism discourse. Feel free to join in :-)

(quoting @RYChappell: @2Philosophical_ Why think it happens? People are way too quick to dismiss epiphenomenalism. Compare: https://philpapers.org/rec/YETDAT)

My continual hot take is that nobody has any fucking clue (what the nature of consciousness is)

Quote tweet, 16:57 UTC · 21 likes

Who wants to move to the pencil

Quoting Chris 🦝 (READ BIO!!) (@TrashPanda08x): The Oklahoma City council just voted 8 to 1 to remove a height restriction and rezone a section of brick town to accommodate a 1907ft tall building, which would make it the tallest in North America. Construction is going to start later this year. This is insane funny

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Reply to @GjMcGowan, 16:59 UTC · 2 likes

George McGowan (@GjMcGowan): mad how boring I find AI

This but the opposite

Reply to @MariGO2thepolls, 17:06 UTC · 5 likes

🏳️‍🌈Mar G-O 🌐🇺🇦 (@MariGO2thepolls):

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I don’t want my family to die 😡

Reply to @DeepDishEnjoyer, 17:16 UTC · 1 like

peepeepoopoo (@DeepDishEnjoyer): vox populi vox dei

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(quoting @DeepDishEnjoyer: should I make myself a strawberry milkshake for breakfast)

Tf is rose water

Thread, continued, 17:16 UTC · 1 like

Well that does make sense

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Reply to @MichaelTrazzi, 18:00 UTC · 42 likes

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Some people really are just better than you across every dimension 🤷‍♂️

Tweet, 18:26 UTC · 2 likes

Wtf there’s a whole food group I am only now just discovering exists

Thread, continued, 18:27 UTC · 4 likes

Brb gonna make some grass condensate

Reply, 18:37 UTC · 2 likes

Cheems mindset

Reply to @RichardHanania, 18:43 UTC · 6 likes

Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania): This is really a beautiful video. These people are crossing the border to take jobs most Americans think are beneath them, giving shoutouts to their home countries. And they know that they’re coming to a free country where they can publicly show their faces while breaking unjust laws and still be able to live their lives because we are too humane and civilized to deport them.

Sorry, I’m always going to take the side of someone who showed initiative in life over a person who believes they should get special privileges because they were born somewhere.

The other view is contrary to the essence of America, which yes was founded by white men with a particular heritage and culture, but whose moral and ideological commitments told them it was people’s character and ideas that mattered.

I wish these new arrivals the best and am glad they’re here to keep making America great.

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Based. Welcome

Tweet, 18:55 UTC · 8 likes

I’d like to come out as a China hawk. I think it would be extremely bad for the CCP to have a decisive advantage via any means, AGI included

Reply to @besttrousers, 19:22 UTC · 1 like

Matt Darling 🌐🏗️ (@besttrousers): > the standard of living for working class people lowered

This is an inaccurate summary of the effects of immigration on working class people.

Immigrants effect both labor supply and demand - the effects on wages are indeterminate in theory, and we cannot reject 0 empirically.

(quoting @BriannaWu: I know it’s a high bar, but “open borders” is literally the stupidest idea the fringe left has ever cooked up. It doesn’t even make any sense from a leftist point of view. What, you want unfettered sex trafficking? You want union labor diluted and the standard of living for…)

My best guess summary: probably has modest negative short run impact for a very small, selected part of the labor market and everyone else wins over every timescale, including that group beyond a few years (idk 5?)

Reply to @prerat, 19:23 UTC · 2 likes

prerat (@prerat): have you seen this one? i think it's pretty good

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Stfu that is a cat on the left and a dog on the right

Tweet, 19:40 UTC · 12 likes

Is anyone interested in recording themselves reading a section of this for an audiobook/podcast feed? I am not the most eloquent reader but would do one

Describing the figures appropriately is (ironically, a bit) not smth current TTS handles well afaik

https://situational-awareness.ai/

Reply, 19:44 UTC · 1 like

Care to share? The LLMs don’t know

Quote tweet, 21:55 UTC · 4 likes

Seems bad

Quoting Kevin Roose (@kevinroose): Interesting update to the OpenAI whistleblower story: After denying it on the record, Microsoft is now admitting that they tested an early version of GPT-4 in India without the approval of a joint safety board.

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Reply to @AndyMasley, 22:19 UTC · 8 likes

Andy Masley (@AndyMasley): It's become hard not to notice how many people's p(doom) can be pretty easily predicted by their specific social scene, among other things

This is true and IMO the correct interpretation is not the intuitive one (intuitive = “any given persons p(doom) is not sensitive to legit evidence”)

Galef pill = community-level error correcting and truth-seeking norms >> individual-level CFAR brand rationality …

Thread, continued, 22:20 UTC · 3 likes

So yeah, look for the community with the best error correcting and truth seeking norms and you’re gonna have a better (epistemic) time

Thread, continued, 22:22 UTC · 3 likes

If you wanna make a micro level argument about being agnostic between various micro social niches under that umbrella, sure

Reply to @growing_daniel, 22:53 UTC · 2 likes

Daniel (@growing_daniel): this thirty second countdown to get tracking info on DHL's website is kinda blowing my mind rn

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It’s definitely running on one guys computer

Tweet, 22:56 UTC · 9 likes

I’m taking an unprecedented 2 day twitter fast. Adiós hasta Friday

Saturday, June 8, 2024

Reply to @frances__lorenz, 20:46 UTC · 3 likes

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Ok ❤️

Quote tweet, 21:39 UTC · 10 likes

Straight up lying to POTUS should be disqualifying for basically everything

Quoting Garrison Lovely (@GarrisonLovely): So I remember @a16z relaying this howler to the UK House of Lords, but I did not realize that @ylecun, @ID_AA_Carmack, and other technical folks signed their name to the same claim in a letter to Biden!

I really don't know how you could possibly take them seriously after this.

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Reply to @kindgracekind, 23:23 UTC · 2 likes

Grace (@kindgracekind): wild. zoom in -- there are no red pixels in this image

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Real

Reply to @RFishBlueFish, 23:35 UTC · 2 likes

Gil (@RFishBlueFish): The argument refuting consciousness (causal cloture) is pretty uncomfortably strong for consciousness but absolutely destroys affective consciousness

Idk that backpack I’m looking at sure looks irreducibly qualitatively black to me in a private visceral extra-physical sense

Sunday, June 9, 2024

Reply to @RafaRuizdeLira, 12:46 UTC · 3 likes

Rafael Ruiz ⏸️🔸 (@RafaRuizdeLira): If you haven't made it by 23 it's too late for u

(quoting @anuatluru: feels like people are having a midlife crisis at a younger age than ever before (23))

Darn

Reply to @SpacedOutMatt, 13:44 UTC · 2 likes

Matt 🔸 (@SpacedOutMatt): Breakfast of champions

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I’m assuming howie is just outside the frame

Reply, 13:51 UTC · 1 like

Has anyone ever actually matched with a rose?

Reply, 16:54 UTC · 1 like

:(

Monday, June 10, 2024

Tweet, 08:35 UTC · 108 likes

Maybe a dumb question but a “startup” is just distinguished from a normal old new business by vibes right?

Thread, continued, 08:35 UTC · 15 likes

Like the association is with founder ambition and hardware/software innovation (as opposed to like just taking existing systems to a new market)…

but it’s still fundamentally a continuous spectrum, not much of a natural category outside of the social world (???)

Thread, continued, 08:35 UTC · 10 likes

Tryna figure out why I never hear about very smart young people trying to do anything in between “work at a job for a paycheck” and “found a business predicated on the potential to be worth at least hundreds of millions”

Thread, continued, 08:35 UTC · 6 likes

Maybe:

- I’m being dumb, people do this all the time but it doesn’t jive with the twitter algorithm and vibes

Thread, continued, 08:35 UTC · 7 likes

- it’s systematically easier to build a company and sell to google for $10M than build a company that you personally value at $10M (ok but shouldn’t people migrate here until the EV equalizes?)

Thread, continued, 08:38 UTC · 6 likes

Also like there’s a missing middle in terms of vibes

On one side you’ve got unicorn-esque tech startups. On the other, an ethnic restaurant or dry cleaner eeking out a normal profit

Reply to @JgaltTweets, 09:21 UTC · 6 likes

JgaltTweets (@JgaltTweets): I think the distinguishing feature of a 'startup' is usually that the intent/expectation of the founder and early employees is that it's eventually going to either become a very large company, or be bought out by one; not remain at the level of the usual owner-operator business

I’m trying to point out that at least conceptually and I think irl (lol) there is plenty of space between owner-operator and “startup”

Like anything regional for one thing (chain restaurant, bank, retail, basically anything but software and maybe pharma)

Reply to @CameronHolmes92, 09:22 UTC · 1 like

Cameron Holmes (@CameronHolmes92): I think this is mostly a result of the winner-takes-all/zero marginal cost technology thing: there's no point being the 50th best search engine. This forces you into the startup funding/capital model for many ambitions.

Yes this makes sense for software specifically

Which is a big deal ofc lol but not everything at least for now

Reply to @panickssery, 09:24 UTC · 4 likes

Arjun Panickssery (@panickssery): Startups are unlike starting other businesses like cafes or factories because their focus is on growing to a much larger size

Seems like theres plenty of room between zero growth and winner takes all outside of software. Regionality is the boring way this happens but specialization more generally

Reply to @toasterlighting, 09:30 UTC · 1 like

Celene (@toasterlighting): @AaronBergman18 Imagine applying the same logic to a different question.
"why don't we see smart young people do carpentry? Why do they all study STEM? Maybe tech jobs pay more or are easier, but if that's the case we should see people migrate towards them until the EV equalizes."

The assumption that the two buckets are STEM/max growth startup and owner-operator/local business/carpentry is what I’m questioning though

Although somewhat ironically @JesseTayRiver’s success at basically having a carpentry firm (https://www.willardbrothers.net) inspired this in part

Reply to @bendunnflores, 09:52 UTC · 1 like

bdf (@bendunnflores): There does seem to be a gap for equity financing of new businesses designed to grow at ~20-50% per year.

Some angels offer funding to that kind of business, but there's no easy onramps

Normie solution = personal savings, maybe parents, and a dream (not endorsing necessarily)

Reply to @KirkegaardEmil, 10:04 UTC · 2 likes

Emil Kirkegaard (@KirkegaardEmil): Human geneticists: oh no, I am so worried, about about X Y Z hypothetical problems?? 😟

Non-human geneticists: polygenic scores go up 📈

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Lol yeah it’s important to take into account the effects on the population of interest when the population is human but not when it’s corn

Reply to @thebestestpie, 12:14 UTC · 3 likes

Fake News Pie (@thebestestpie): @JesseTayRiver @AaronBergman18 @toasterlighting why don’t you do it?

Excellent q. If he says anything about age I’m subpoena-ing records from strava

Reply to @SpencrGreenberg, 12:32 UTC · 11 likes

Spencer Greenberg 🔍 (@SpencrGreenberg): A question for you if you have at least 500 Twitter followers who are people you don’t know: how would you describe what you did that caused you to get your followers (that differs from others who tweet just as often but who have few followers)?

Dumb technicality answer is “tweet at that frequency but for longer”

Tweet, 12:40 UTC · 4 likes

Gender ratio discourse.

EA : veganism ~ TPOT : ???

Reply to @RokoMijic, 13:13 UTC · 2 likes

Roko 🐉 (@RokoMijic): The reason why I disagree with this is that AI has both great promise and also great peril, and I don't think that trying to delay or pause it is +EV.

You have to actually steer it.

(quoting @KatSpartz: PSA - the most prominent AI risk deniers are paid by Big AI I’m sure that has nothing to do with their position that AI development will lead to only benefits)

Steering gets harder as rate of change increases, pause facilitates steering

Reply, 13:42 UTC · 1 like

Oh lol I didn’t realize I was replying to u before I copied the link

Thread, continued, 13:43 UTC · 1 like

But also, as a thought experiment if not a proper argument, you imagine two worlds, one empty and one with a single being in severe pain with no other qualia. Seems pretty clear to me that one is worse than the other and that we can say this in the same way we can talk of

Tuesday, June 11, 2024

Reply to @JacquesThibs, 13:04 UTC · 4 likes

Jacques (@JacquesThibs): Met a new friend yesterday

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Keep at it in a couple generations they will be puppies

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Reply to @CrispyWicks, 13:06 UTC · 4 likes

Chris P. Wicks 🔎🐜 (@CrispyWicks): wmaf jokes about the af make me livid, murderous. wmaf jokes about the wm make me go "haha it me, I love my gf"

(quoting @tenobrus: every wmaf couple)

Wassigned male at firth?

Quote tweet, 13:15 UTC · 3 likes

I have opinions, who tryna incorporate

Quoting Jack (@tracewoodgrains): people give immense authority to official-sounding institutions

a ton of advocacy groups are, like, “Mr. has-opinions and his seven friends” but if you make up a neat-sounding org name and say official-sounding things, many people and news orgs will treat you as Authoritarive

Reply to @SpacedOutMatt, 13:39 UTC · 2 likes

Matt 🔸 (@SpacedOutMatt): Pleased to report that they’re playing shrimp videos at the eye doctor’s

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The fish: am I a joke to u

Reply to @GjMcGowan, 13:44 UTC · 2 likes

George McGowan (@GjMcGowan): We’re about to find out

👀🦐

Reply to @kepe__, 13:46 UTC · 2 likes

kepe ✨🇫🇮 (@kepe__): @AaronBergman18 what are your opiions

Twitter good, cold good, walk good, suffering bad

Reply to @SpacedOutMatt, 13:48 UTC · 3 likes

Matt 🔸 (@SpacedOutMatt): They dilated my eyes and now everything is blurry T_T

RIP

and for Matt:

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Reply to @ElytraMithra, 13:51 UTC · 2 likes

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No

Tweet, 13:57 UTC · 7 likes

I have no idea what this is for, might stiff Microsoft $0.16

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Reply to @absurdlymax, 14:18 UTC · 2 likes

Max Alexander (@absurdlymax): I don't think think this is strictly true, though I suppose I sometimes hear of this being used to justify cost effectiveness being higher than other non x-risk interventions; you could selfishly care a lot about x-risk for example

I definitely selfishly care about x-risk lol

Quote tweet, 19:01 UTC · 7 likes

Yes, and all IDEs need a big green “Run” button

This is @Replit’s innovation

Quoting Dan's Bake Sale (@dadbodsociety): im sorry i have to say this but GitHub needs a big red "download" button.

Reply to @prerat, 19:11 UTC · 2 likes

prerat (@prerat): screen aren't actually that interesting. probably your environment is just boring. or you made a habit of looking at screen because your environment is usually boring

Nah screen is definitely more interesting 95% of the time lol

There are many virtues to touching grass but interestingness is low on the list

Reply, 19:21 UTC · 15 likes

Strength is much more responsive generally than muscle size. Muscle size is mostly about testosterone and diet, strength is largely about nervous system recruitment which is much more egalitarian

Quote tweet, 19:28 UTC · 2 likes

R/acc

Quoting Kyle Walker (@kyle_e_walker): Coming home for Game 3 of the NBA Finals, via #rstats, the upcoming {mapboxgl} package, and @Mapbox's new Standard style

You'll be able to do this yourselves, with very little code, really soon

#OneForDallas

#MavsIn7

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Reply to @ameliasxo, 19:33 UTC · 2 likes

mill 🐬 (@ameliasxo): No one has got your back like your 2 regular tweet likers

(quoting @Kulfei: A banger, actually)

🦐

Reply to @absurdlymax, 19:34 UTC · 2 likes

Max Alexander (@absurdlymax): @AaronBergman18 @ohwizenedtortle Your content is just too good

Thx

Reply to @littIeramblings, 19:38 UTC · 2 likes

sarah (@littIeramblings): Oh wait this tweet is like 8 months old

No excuses

Reply to @absurdlymax, 19:41 UTC · 2 likes

Max Alexander (@absurdlymax): @AaronBergman18 @ohwizenedtortle Looking through old tweets I see

Reply to @SipOfKoKo, 19:46 UTC · 5 likes

🇺🇳🇺🇸🇹🇼🇺🇦Derek🇵🇸🌐🔰🈷 (@SipOfKoKo): Being an empiricist is hard. You can cite 20 academic research paper and someone will just come along with a bad Instagram graphic and convince more people than you ever will.

(quoting @alfred_twu: The production case for rent control: There's a shortage of loans, supplies, & workers. When new rich residents create demand for housing, steer those dollars towards funding new homes, rather than non-essential renovations of old ones.)

I can’t like this tweet bc empiricism is overrated in general, even if it’s underrated in this specific context

Reply to @RokoMijic, 19:50 UTC · 3 likes

Roko 🐉 (@RokoMijic): AI can revolutionize the economy

We vastly overpay for cognitive work

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Regulatory issue, not a tech issue

Reply to @beala, 20:10 UTC · 1 like

Alex Beal 🆎 (@beala): I am begging you to not use the highlighter/marker tool to redact images. Trivially recoverable playing with the sliders in the photo app.

(quoting @cottoncandaddy: not to be a bitch but I work from home like 20 feet from my front door so I can hear everything, and I heard a delivery person on the porch but they didn’t knock so I didn’t come to the door, but they didn’t deliver my mail and also didn’t say why??)

Wait fr

Reply to @DavidPinsof, 20:42 UTC · 6 likes

David Pinsof (@DavidPinsof): Is effective altruism bullshit? Check out my latest post, where I argue the answer is yes (naturally), but also it’s complicated. https://www.everythingisbullshit.blog/p/is-effective-altruism-bullshit

“Suffering is good”

- guy who gets anesthesia during surgery

Is it sometimes instrumentally useful? Yes, nobody disputes that, come on. Fish asphyxiating to death is still bad

Reply to @AndyMasley, 21:07 UTC · 5 likes

Andy Masley (@AndyMasley): Fantano just gave Brat a 10 this is not a drill folks

Idk what any of this means

Tweet, 21:17 UTC · 6 likes

Ik GPTs are so two months ago but there’s exactly one that I use all the time and it’s this https://chatgpt.com/g/g-C9AdUkoJG-code-only

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Reply to @RomanHauksson, 21:27 UTC · 26 likes

Roman Hauksson-Neill (@RomanHauksson): Do you have any examples in mind?

All the traditional “I want to do X to help people/make the world a better place” careers

Tweet, 22:20 UTC · 5 likes

When serious institution staffed with smart earnest people makes decision X, you should probably have a high prior on X being the right call at least for what they care about, all things considered

Thread, continued, 22:20 UTC · 3 likes

This line of reasoning is so boring it feels like there must be a trick going on but nah it checks out

Impetus is people insisting on here that Apple made the “wrong call” on some matter of business wrt iOS 18 but I feel like I see it all the time

Reply to @Duderichy, 22:43 UTC · 5 likes

the Rich (@Duderichy): people 👏 shouldn't 👏 have 👏 to 👏 pay 👏 for 👏 things 👏

(quoting @unusual_whales: President Joe Biden's administration will formally propose a rule to bar medical debt from individual credit reports, per Bloomberg.)

I mean in US medicine specifically, yeah sometimes this but ironically bc you can charged randint(20, 10⁶) and generally can’t make normal consumer type decisions, if any decision at all

Quote tweet, 22:45 UTC · 4 likes

I propose a norm of paying for medical services that look basically like other normal consumer purchases (mainly, know the price before deciding) fully and on time and using as many legal/practical loopholes as you can find otherwise

Quoting Aaron Bergman 🔍 (@AaronBergman18): @Duderichy I mean in US medicine specifically, yeah sometimes this but ironically bc you can charged randint(20, 10⁶) and generally can’t make normal consumer type decisions, if any decision at all

Quote tweet, 23:08 UTC · 35 likes

Thing about this meme (and others like it) is that it’s not true or approximately true even in a very generous meme-oriented sense

Quoting Jennifer D'aww (@GMShivers):

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Thread, continued, 23:08 UTC · 15 likes

People don’t stare at “the incomprehensible horrors”; they’re maybe forced to look once, if unlucky, and then either die in the process or memory-hole it for their own functioning and sanity when “back to normal”

Thread, continued, 23:08 UTC · 12 likes

And tbc this is at least in part stuff you know about conceptually: factory farming, torture, predation, not anything mystical or metaphysically contentious

Wednesday, June 12, 2024

Tweet, 00:11 UTC · 30 likes

Took me an embarrassingly long time to realize that “vacation smell” is just light ambient cigarette smoke

Reply to @TheZvi, 00:21 UTC · 7 likes

Zvi Mowshowitz (@TheZvi): Tonight is last call for reactions and comments related to @leopoldasch , either Situational Awareness or the podcast, then I hope to wrap that up tomorrow. Anything I should be sure to get?

Almost definitely not original but I have a sense that EAish people have too strong an immune reaction to the nationalist vibe-associating international (geo-) political conflict stuff

Thread, continued, 00:23 UTC · 4 likes

which is extremely understandable and IMO basically too much of a good thing

But like ex ante it’s totally possible (and I think true, tentatively) that “CCP cannot win AGI race” checks out from an impartial moral perspective

Reply to @Littoral_Gecko, 01:09 UTC · 4 likes

A Gecko🦎 (@Littoral_Gecko): @AaronBergman18 Is this because the ‘vacation smell’ you’ve identified is coming from hotel rooms?

Nah I picture walking outside in crowded urban areas with ample smoking. Outing myself as a very sheltered suburbanite

Reply to @SpacedOutMatt, 02:31 UTC · 3 likes

Matt 🔸 (@SpacedOutMatt): @AaronBergman18 1) What

I think the requirements are like lots of people densely packed outside, bars around, enough smoke to smell but few obvious smokers in visual field to associate it with, and (relatedly) intensity stays pretty constant for a while

Reply to @JesseTayRiver, 02:35 UTC · 2 likes

Jesse Smith (@JesseTayRiver): @SpacedOutMatt @AaronBergman18 Jersey shore maybe?

The image that comes to my mind is New Orleans. Also Barcelona

Reply to @FrostedSapling, 02:44 UTC · 3 likes

Ivan 🔸 (@FrostedSapling): @inesferhumi @pearl_please

Ines serves the Kiki, pearl serves boba

Reply to @DaCaveOfWonders, 03:27 UTC · 2 likes

Tiger Lava Lamp (@DaCaveOfWonders): 42k steps today

Up and down 2 mountains

Everything hurts

(quoting @DaCaveOfWonders: 28k steps yesterday. We'll see what I get today from a ~full day of hiking)

Dang that is several steps

Reply to @ruth_hook_, 03:30 UTC · 4 likes

Ruth Hook (@ruth_hook_): "We have learned that many things are lost if one looks at averages, but are revealed when one studies single events"

A lot of Bayes-obsessed ppl I know would be angered by this but it's from a biologist who successfully cured his own daughters rare cancer in a relative rush

If this is rationalist shade I think I disagree, it’s an important insight (this isn’t an exact example but still)

Reply to @AndyMasley, 03:50 UTC · 8 likes

Andy Masley (@AndyMasley): @Bbburner19 Oh I do that a lot I mean that there's a giant Cheez-It inside

If you donate $10k to THL God allows u to have one morally neutral cheese it

Tweet, 04:53 UTC · 5 likes

Regardless of the truth of any claim, internet waves of various diet zeitgeists is probably functional - it increases within-individual variance and systematically tend to keep what works and eschew what doesn’t for them personally

Reply to @bschne, 04:54 UTC · 2 likes

Benjamin (@bschne): I hate when I have two great replies to something and need to pick

Poast both

Reply to @ilex_ulmus, 04:59 UTC · 6 likes

Holly ⏸️ Elmore (@ilex_ulmus): I find weirdness fun and welcoming but I cannot stress enough how orthogonal that is to whether ideas are true or morally important or not.

(quoting @ilex_ulmus: People who actually care about doing good should welcome a boring, normie EA if that's how it turned out.)

Conceptually sure, but irl there are pretty obvious causal relationships. We should expect a cause to be more neglected if weirder, all else equal

Thread, continued, 05:01 UTC · 1 like

Likewise, all the normal critiques of EA are bad and wrong (I claim lol) bc if they were true and normal they’d have been incorporated by now

Tweet, 05:07 UTC

Not enough recent history. History is always old af. Most interesting stuff is just barely old enough for ~impartial clarity, like 5-20 years

Reply to @mimi10v3, 05:12 UTC · 3 likes

˚♡⋆mimi ˚♡⋆。☆∴ (@mimi10v3): when Likes are private, which category of tweets will you most increase Liking?

Lol none of these seem even slightly tempting to like

Reply to @ilex_ulmus, 05:22 UTC · 2 likes

Holly ⏸️ Elmore (@ilex_ulmus): @AaronBergman18 Does time yield impartial clarity or simply a winning interpretation?

Probably both but history as a discipline and set of methods and norms is the only good antidote I know of to bad winning interpretations

Reply to @cremieuxrecueil, 05:42 UTC · 5 likes

Crémieux (@cremieuxrecueil): Multivitamins don't really seem to have an impact on mortality in randomized controlled trials.

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Mortality? Is that why anyone takes multivitamins?

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Reply to @absurdlymax, 05:58 UTC · 2 likes

Max Alexander (@absurdlymax): It's insane I can have an effectively infinite amount of clean water and ice

Not me

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Reply to @zestular, 06:15 UTC · 2 likes

(The tweet being replied to by @zestular is no longer available.)

This thread needs to see this (the algorithm not the qt)

Reply to @GarettJones, 07:24 UTC · 8 likes

Garett Jones (@GarettJones): Note the units

Modest effect of 30 IQ points on wages, even in middle age

If you want to say IQ matters a lot, you'll have to look at externalities, spillovers

You'll have to look at the Hive Mind

(quoting @cremieuxrecueil: When people are young, the wage gaps between those with high and low levels of intelligence are smaller. The effects of being smarter compound with time.)

Iq 115 earns 25% more than IQ 85? Seems implausible, did I do the math wrong?

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Reply to @lumpenspace, 12:11 UTC · 4 likes

lumpenspace and 99+ others (@lumpenspace): I am Defeated

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I’d stay (this is a description not a prescription)

Thursday, June 13, 2024

Reply, 03:16 UTC · 1 like

Also responsible for 90% of economic growth per capita

Reply to @ryiacy, 03:16 UTC · 1 like

dom (@ryiacy): threads content goes crazy

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Ok who tryna build a relationship

Thread, continued, 03:19 UTC · 4 likes

Lawyers: parents
Accountants: @PeterJAngel
SWEs: all yall
Business owners: @JesseTayRiver
Millionaires: they might get mad if I tag but congrats on the exit
Marketing experts: this is twitter, all of us

Reply to @ilex_ulmus, 03:23 UTC · 1 like

Holly ⏸️ Elmore (@ilex_ulmus): My last project with Rethink Priorities was just released publicly. Read if you’re interested in the state of the field of Wild Animal Welfare.

https://rethinkpriorities.org/publications/a-landscape-analysis-of-wild-animal-welfare

@RethinkPriors @aMarcusDavis @peterwildeford wanna post the whole text so it gets added to the various podcast feeds (or make ur own pod 👀👀👀) https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/huQJtxcDHbbyuraR2/linkpost-a-landscape-analysis-of-wild-animal-welfare

Reply to @ohwizenedtortle, 03:32 UTC · 2 likes

oh dandy lion🔸 (@ohwizenedtortle): You can use whatever assumptions you want if you just say "a naive model of this is"

Let pi = -621

Reply, 04:02 UTC

This changed with deep learning. It’s not a crazy prior but you have to actually look at the world and what has happened over last 10 years

Reply to @robsica, 04:03 UTC · 3 likes

Rob Sica (@robsica): "School psychology and, more broadly, the field of education are particularly susceptible to pseudoscience, fads, and maintaining the status quo by resisting the adoption of new ideas."
https://www.taylorfrancis.com/books/edit/10.4324/9781003266181/investigating-school-psychology-michael-axelrod-stephen-hupp

Pretty strong tension between “fads” and “resisting new ideas” no?

Tweet, 04:09 UTC · 9 likes

Kinda crazy to me that people think the “data wall” is a plausible constraint on AI progress

The world generates infinite (practically) ground truth data! Put a camera anywhere! Or a microphone! Or any sensor of anything!

Thread, continued, 04:10 UTC · 6 likes

The one thing there isn’t an infinite amount of is human-written text on the internet. This feels more like an inconvenience than a fundamental constraint

Tweet, 04:15 UTC · 8 likes

Songs I disagree with:

- Mean. Taylor is punching down at this point

- Complicated by Avril Lavigne. The guy is just trying on a new aesthetic, and there’s no ground truth genuine style for anyone

Reply, 04:28 UTC · 1 like

I’d say a bit worse but not down to 3.5. The one thing it messes up constantly is regex escapes that are different in R

Reply to his own earlier tweet, 07:26 UTC · 2 likes

Aaron Bergman, June 13, 2024: Lawyers: parents Accountants: @PeterJAngel SWEs: all yall Business owners: @JesseTayRiver Millionaires: they might get mad if I tag but congrats on the exit…

Update they liked the post

Reply to @webmasterdave, 07:49 UTC · 3 likes

David Pearce (@webmasterdave): @herbivoryze A happy, peaceful biosphere where all sentient beings flourish sometimes feels an impossible dream. But we now have the technical tools (CRISPR, synthetic gene drives) to create such a world. Power creates complicity. Conserving the cruelties of Nature would be deeply immoral.

I liked this tweet

Reply to @herbivoryze, 07:49 UTC · 2 likes

HerbivoRyzing (@herbivoryze): “Natural selection is a monstrous engine of suffering. But until recently, talk of Darwinian life as immoral didn't make much sense. Nothing could be done. However, humans will shortly have the option to civilize Nature and create a pan-species welfare state.” - David Pearce

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Reply to @kepe__, 08:32 UTC · 2 likes

kepe ✨🇫🇮 (@kepe__): @AaronBergman18 that's not useful data lol, and most of it is equivalent to noise

Sure seems like ability to predict the next say 600 frames = 10 seconds of arbitrary video from the last hour almost anywhere in the world would help build a world model

Reply, 08:37 UTC · 3 likes

I agree caring about this out loud is bad and a bad signal but it’s probably just that they dislike the change instead of 4d reverse psychology/projection. Just speculating but I’d guess the equivalent for straight women would be seeing a trend of men shaving their head

Tweet, 08:40 UTC · 7 likes

Abolish. Or whatever, just remove their veto power over molecules in medicine

Reply to @littIeramblings, 19:27 UTC · 2 likes

sarah (@littIeramblings): starting to think there is no amount of time I could spend on Twitter that would give me the answer as to what’s gonna happen with AI, devastated

Sad

Reply to @davidad, 19:30 UTC · 3 likes

davidad 🎇 (@davidad): tag yourself; I’m an alarmed welfarist variabilist

(quoting @robbensinger: What if we just decided to make AI risk discourse not completely terrible?)

Alarmed welfarist eventualist (although idk what “soon” means)

Reply to @arithmoquine, 19:51 UTC · 1 like

henry (@arithmoquine): complex social dynamics between my friends got nothing on me

considering automating this with an llm so i have a constant real-time dashboard as shit goes down

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Lol I definitely made a diagram by hand in middle school

Reply to @IroncladDev, 20:01 UTC

IroncladDev (@IroncladDev): Now that I know some people write frontends in R my day is ruined

😈

Reply to @abyssalblue_, 20:06 UTC · 41 likes

cyan (@abyssalblue_): reminder that this is a real wikipedia article

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia_(object-oriented_programming)

Reply to @cookiecarver, 20:08 UTC · 1 like

cookie🍪 (@cookiecarver): another day another time to play guess the fruit!

guess the fruit!? (normal sized egg for scale)

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Blueberry

Reply to @arithmoquine, 20:18 UTC · 2 likes

henry (@arithmoquine): hmu and you'll be fixed in no time. i have the receipts to prove it

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He just like me fr

Reply to @kenwheeler, 20:46 UTC · 2 likes

patagucci perf papi (@kenwheeler): i had to give a talk at the same time as the dude who invented css lmfao.

Tell him it’s too complicated

Quote tweet, 21:36 UTC · 58 likes

Unreasonable effectiveness of @leopoldasch

Quoting OpenAI (@OpenAI): Paul M. Nakasone brings world-class cybersecurity expertise to OpenAI’s Board of Directors, helping us deliver on our mission by protecting our systems from increasingly sophisticated bad actors. https://openai.com/index/openai-appoints-retired-us-army-general/

Reply to @JacquesThibs, 22:01 UTC · 4 likes

Jacques (@JacquesThibs): Might not be for the SA doc, but for Leopold’s early attempts to get this to happen while he was at OAI

+1, I was just thinking this

Reply to @rachelclif, 22:53 UTC · 3 likes

rachel (is sending love and warmth your way) (@rachelclif): men: how can women discern if a guy loves them?

Says “I love you” and seems honest in every other domain?

Quote tweet, 22:57 UTC · 19 likes

Only took 7 weeks to not find matching socks for the first time

Quoting Aaron Bergman 🔍 (@AaronBergman18): I’m sure they’ll have disappeared by summer, but having 24 new pairs of socks is wild - truly abundance mindset

It’s like peak FTX but for my feet

Reply to @LinchZhang, 23:03 UTC · 1 like

Linch (@LinchZhang): If you buy multiple copies of the same socks, then you're much more robust to losing specific socks.

Indeed, I thought light and dark of the same brand and size would be ok but alas I should just go with perfectly intermediate gray

Reply to @thecaptain_nemo, 23:04 UTC · 3 likes

Nemo (@thecaptain_nemo): alcohol is so unique in its ability to dramatically lower inhibitions. would be really valuable to have a drug that did the same thing without the hangovers or negative impact on cognitive ability

Stimulants (probably these are different forms of inhibition lowering but decreasing threshold for action is like precisely what stims do)

Friday, June 14, 2024

Reply to @AndyMasley, 00:32 UTC · 3 likes

Andy Masley (@AndyMasley): Some things that are underrated: Puritanism, the law of supply and demand, having a good VO2 max, animals, cheap watches, life in Washington DC, the American military and the military industrial complex, donating to GiveWell, the book Little, Big, the movie Love Streams

Probably disagree about Puritanism and GiveWell

Reply to @JesseTayRiver, 00:33 UTC · 2 likes

Jesse Smith (@JesseTayRiver): @AndyMasley I think it's a strong performance predictor in events ≥ 2 minutes, but tbh I don't know much about the health angle. I've always assumed that workload would predict health more than vo2max but genuinely unsure

I’m guessing u don’t have much knowledge of what bad vo2 max feels like

Reply to @AndyMasley, 00:34 UTC · 3 likes

Andy Masley (@AndyMasley): @AaronBergman18 GiveWell bc animals right?

Yeah or more generally theres no plausible assumptions under which they’re the best place to donate. If not dominated by animal welfare then by LTFF or something similar

Reply to @absurdlymax, 00:35 UTC · 2 likes

Max Alexander (@absurdlymax): God I wish twitter circles still existed

@elonmusk

Reply to @daniel_271828, 02:27 UTC · 2 likes

zzDANIEL_ETH (@daniel_271828): Just pick up the phone and call them

Fr

Reply to @AndyMasley, 17:31 UTC · 2 likes

Andy Masley (@AndyMasley): @GarrisonLovely I think the core disagreement here is how normal or abnormal we see the statement. Like I'd be comfortable tweeting "Jeez I personally really don't want Trump to win" even though EA DC and EA more broadly is non-partisan, and I guess I see "US military good" as pretty normal too

Stay strong Andy 🫡

Reply to @AndyMasley, 17:33 UTC · 4 likes

Andy Masley (@AndyMasley): @AaronBergman18 @GarrisonLovely Garrison's a friend tbc and I don't need strength to have a back and forth 😇

Stay strong Andy and Garrison 🫡

Reply to @prpaschka, 17:52 UTC · 2 likes

Philip Paschka (@prpaschka): I think the ethics around food are less black-and-white than many vegans think, but lurking on /r/exvegans shows the value of a sharp line: when it doesn't exist, many convince themselves that the feelings of farmed animals don't matter.

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Bad sub mostly. I’m an ex-vegan and like “veganism bad for me personally but morally good” is not something most entertain, evidently

Reply to @inerati, 17:57 UTC

liz (@inerati): vscode is just broken half the time. Pycharm consistently always works but seems to periodically get very slow and need to be restarted. How is it this hard to make a good IDE?

https://posit.co/download/rstudio-desktop/

Tweet, 17:59 UTC · 22 likes

Inshallah next year I will be at vibecamp

Reply to @QualyThe, 18:10 UTC · 2 likes

Qualy the lightbulb (@QualyThe): qalhamdullilah

Idk what this means but ya

Reply to @littIeramblings, 19:11 UTC · 2 likes

sarah (@littIeramblings): can I come

Ya I grant it

Tweet, 19:26 UTC · 2,843 likes

Has anybody done the “we used to get sick enough to lose tons of weight like several times a decade” theory of obesity

Thread, continued, 19:27 UTC · 689 likes

I’ve definitely heard people remark that getting violently ill was the easiest time they ever had losing weight

Reply to @ReflectiveAlt, 19:30 UTC · 24 likes

Reflective Altruism (@ReflectiveAlt): This is a leading effective altruist blogger

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Correct takes. Maybe bad PR but definitely not wrong

Tweet, 19:32 UTC · 26 likes

1 karma/point/whatever:

On twitter: 🙂

On the EA Forum: ☺️😤🐓😎🥳🦐

Reply to his own earlier tweet, 19:34 UTC · 2 likes

Aaron Bergman, June 14, 2024: Correct takes. Maybe bad PR but definitely not wrong

Eh not even bad PR. This is a perfectly fine/polite way to write

Reply to @Rado9910, 19:45 UTC · 39 likes

Rado9910 (@Rado9910): Yeah:

(quoting @Rado9910: @ESYudkowsky I forgot: - more diseases and less efficient medicine, so more inflammation in the body. Even the baseline temperature was higher: 37 degrees vs about 36-ish today. Thread is misleading.)

Nice

Reply to @halogen1048576, 19:51 UTC · 3 likes

🇨🇦halogen (@halogen1048576): Nuño Sempere's "Unflattering aspects of Effective Altruism" blog post (https://nunosempere.com/blog/2024/03/05/unflattering-aspects-of-ea/) and Mollie Gleiberman's "Effective Altruism and the strategic ambiguity of ‘doing good’" paper (https://ideas.repec.org/p/iob/dpaper/2023.01.html) and

Not that forum engagement is necessarily sufficient but https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/coWvsGuJPyiqBdrhC/unflattering-aspects-of-effective-altruism

Reply to @NathanpmYoung, 19:55 UTC · 2 likes

Nathan 🔎 (@NathanpmYoung): Has no good answers to hard questions though

Well it does have answers

I agree they’re not good

Reply to @JesseTayRiver, 22:21 UTC · 2 likes

Jesse Smith (@JesseTayRiver): @RYChappell If he posts any really good ea critiques I'll screenshot it for you. Don't hold your breath tho

Lol indeed. Before this at least I thought he was basically good faith but all his critiques have been terrible except like one paper from GPI I think

Saturday, June 15, 2024

Tweet, 04:04 UTC · 41 likes

Wanted: debate between @leopoldasch and @ESYudkowsky on the difficulty of alignment and what circumstances make catastrophic misalignment plausible, moderated by @dwarkesh_sp

Reply, 12:24 UTC

Wait maybe you can’t refuse to answer, you can only refuse to give your ideology. Sad. Evil, in fact

Reply to @PeterJAngel, 12:26 UTC · 2 likes

Peter🧅📈 (@PeterJAngel): What

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(quoting @Amtrak: Joy, Sadness, Anger, Fear, Disgust, Anxiety, Envy, Embarrassment and Ennui... ...meet 🤪TRAIN FEVER🤪)

@QualyThe a friend

Reply to @selentelechia, 12:38 UTC · 3 likes

(The tweet being replied to by @selentelechia is no longer available.)

What is he cooking

Reply to @Ruesavatar, 14:51 UTC · 5 likes

rue🌿 (@Ruesavatar): @selentelechia Omfg my daughter keeps telling me to stop drinking coffee, I also have no idea where she got this from. 😹 Easy for you to judge you tiny supernova human who sleeps like 12 hours a night 😹

Kids being told they can’t have caffeine by caretakers who very visibly consume caffeine might be one of the first such instances of “hypocrisy” (not saying it’s legit hypocrisy or bad) many children experience

Reply to @visakanv, 16:02 UTC · 2 likes

Visakan Veerasamy (@visakanv): I’m curious to understand the history of some symbols. Eg this means display, right? Who came up with that

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Mr. LineSquareLine

Reply to @KatSpartz, 16:03 UTC · 2 likes

Kat Spartz ⏸️ 🔶 (@KatSpartz): I'm embarrassed for AI risk deniers every time they call AI safety a cult.

Calling somebody a cult is one of the most reliable signs of being mind-killed.

It's like calling people nazis or fascists.

Instant loss of credibility in my mind.

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I mean it’s worth entertaining whether any given cult accusations are, in fact, about something that resembles what you and I would call a legit cult lol

But I agree 99% of the time it’s a mindless criticism

Reply to @AndyMasley, 16:08 UTC · 2 likes

Andy Masley (@AndyMasley): @livgorton So good all the way through

One audible credit bites the dust

Reply to @cygadel, 18:01 UTC · 3 likes

foss (@cygadel): @AaronBergman18 @Ruesavatar @selentelechia Then it's probably better to let them try a sip of coffee, which they will naturally dislike because of their tastebuds.

N = 1 but this was me as a kid and I learned that coffee is delicious and awesome lol

Reply to @NoahTopper, 19:17 UTC · 2 likes

Quinoah 🔍⏸️ (@NoahTopper): also wife

Bear

Sunday, June 16, 2024

Reply to @JesseTayRiver, 06:12 UTC · 3 likes

Jesse Smith (@JesseTayRiver): 6 running, 6 w 30 lb pack and a bit of pacing/dog-walking because screw you quads!

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How old are you??

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Sucks that melanoma lives in the real physical world bc I want a sunscreen exemption

Quoting Aaron Bergman 🔍 (@AaronBergman18): @ohwizenedtortle Like I think I’m pretty attuned to people’s moods, status, things like that, but even still am introverted, care less than avg about social norms, high decoupling, easily overwhelmed by sensory input, EXTREME need for comfy clothes/prefer no tags lol

Reply, 18:38 UTC · 1 like

Any merit to this u think? Seems sus but also weird if it was coming from nowhere

Reply, 23:48 UTC

Also get well soon duh

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Wait I got antibiotics a couple weeks ago and they didn’t even try to do one. Wtf. Link to a Wikipedia page or maybe just a drive link to a text file with base pairs would have been a banger consolation prize

Monday, June 17, 2024

Quote tweet, 00:55 UTC · 2 likes

Hear me out https://www.illumina.com/systems/sequencing-platforms/nextseq-1000-2000/

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Quoting Agus 🔸 (@austinc3301): @AaronBergman18 (It costs two or three times more and sequencing takes up to 4-5 months after you submit the sample, so it has disadvantages)

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I have 2331 followers, this is doable. It's what like 18 hours at Vibecamp?

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Reply to @austinc3301, 02:15 UTC · 6 likes

Agus 🔸 (@austinc3301): I haven’t had amigdalitis since I was a child (I got part of my tonsils removed) and god I definitely remembered it too kindly with the constant ice cream

Thought u were about to become a crazy neuroscience case study at first

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Reply to @austinc3301, 02:45 UTC · 5 likes

Agus 🔸 (@austinc3301): I forgot this doesn’t translate lol

El cerebro misterioso increíble de Agusto el Gran

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Idk where the feet came from. I didn’t ask for that

Reply to @austinc3301, 02:56 UTC · 3 likes

Agus 🔸 (@austinc3301): I’m scared of that thing

So is Claude. Alignment has gone too far

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Reply to @ZachWeiner, 05:15 UTC · 4 likes

Zach Weinersmith (@ZachWeiner): Dropped my jaw at this section

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(quoting @TomChivers: A small announcement: my next book, Everything is Predictable, about how Bayes' theorem is the most important little equation in the world, is out in April and will look like this! If you'd like to pre-order, you can do so here https://geni.us/EIPBook and I will be very grateful)

(Courtesy of http://Claude.ai and http://longpost.lol. And me, sorta)

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Perhaps the most famous example was food scientist Brian Wansink, a star at Cornell University who received millions in funding under the Obama administration. (1/12)

Reply, 05:16 UTC · 1 like

When she arrived, Wansink gave her a failed self-funded study with null results on eating behavior at an all-you-can-eat Italian buffet. He told her: "This cost us a lot of time and our own money. (4/12)

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There's got to be something here we can salvage because it's a cool (rich & unique) data set."

The student cut up the dataset in different ways and found enough p < 0.05 correlations to publish five papers, including the "men overeat to impress women" one. (5/12)

Reply to @bendunnflores, 16:07 UTC · 3 likes

bdf (@bendunnflores): Dear hive mind, can you help me with a good response to "my (grand)kids are your age" in a professional context?

“Yes I’d love to go on a date”

Quote tweet, 16:15 UTC · 10 likes

Uh seems like the kind of decision that a board could stop?

Quoting aaron holmes (@aaronpholmes): New: Sam Altman has told shareholders that OpenAI is considering becoming a for-profit company that would no longer be controlled by a nonprofit board https://www.theinformation.com/articles/openai-ceo-says-company-could-become-benefit-corporation-akin-to-rivals-anthropic-xai?utm_source=ti_app&rc=geicgp

Reply to @willdoingthings, 16:19 UTC · 2 likes

Lord Hollyhock (@willdoingthings): Sufficiently advanced autism is indistinguishable from schizophrenia

I don’t think this is true

Reply to @caesararum, 16:46 UTC · 8 likes

caesararum, BS, DOGS (@caesararum): @docentdemagogue yeah but there aren't enough truckers

but there ARE a lot of personal vehicles out there

c'mon, i know your F-150 is costing you $1000/month; why not make it pay for itself?

And most people can legally drive a pickup but not a larger van let alone an 18 wheeler

Reply to @LostLandshark, 17:20 UTC · 8 likes

Forgotten Landshark (@LostLandshark):

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Reply to @anothercohen, 17:31 UTC · 2 likes

Alex Cohen (@anothercohen): Austin residential real estate is not having a good time

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Haha YES

Reply to @cauliflwr_human, 17:35 UTC · 4 likes

cauli (back home!) (@cauliflwr_human): deepfates at the pharmacy be like: "there is no anti emetics division"

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Tweet, 17:42 UTC · 17 likes

I know twitter is built into my brain bc yesterday a corner of a fitted sheet popped off and my brain immediately said “ABOLISH FITTED SHEETS” fully verbally formed and everything

Tweet, 18:01 UTC · 38 likes

Extropianism with its fellow acronymmates

30 Rock Fellow Kids GIF by Peacock (gif, plays on X)

Reply to @RafaRuizdeLira, 18:02 UTC · 2 likes

Rafael Ruiz ⏸️🔸 (@RafaRuizdeLira): Still writing. Will try to finish it soon. Can't keep my ideas short and to the point 😞

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Real

Reply to @inesferhumi, 18:11 UTC · 2 likes

Inés (@inesferhumi): @AaronBergman18 You were right though

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Quote tweet, 18:58 UTC · 2 likes

What cool machines can u buy for <$100?

I feel like there might be alpha here

Quoting Caleb Watney (@calebwatney): idk why these wafer machines are getting so much hype, I bought this one for $30 on amazon

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Reply to @littIeramblings, 19:04 UTC · 3 likes

sarah (@littIeramblings): question to any AI experts who follow me on here (+ anyone else who feels like weighing in) - how seriously do you take this blog post and the extremely short timelines it predicts?

(quoting @aidan_mclau: new essay on language model search. giving llms search (ability to think for a long time) might kick off asi this year, and basically nobody is paying attention https://yellow-apartment-148.notion.site/AI-Search-The-Bitter-er-Lesson-44c11acd27294f4495c3de778cd09c8d)

*sigh of relief at parenthetical clause so I can yap and speculate*

Tweet, 19:07 UTC · 129 likes

I bet the name “Claude” was workshopped by a bunch of well-paid consultants and brand experts and “chatGPT” was the first thing that popped into someone at OpenAI’s mind (maybe as a variable name originally, they always look like that [`model = “chatGPT” ’])

Reply to @arithmoquine, 19:12 UTC · 8 likes

henry (@arithmoquine): no way a consultant or brand expert came up with "claude" lmao

only a fellow shannon fanboy would advocate for something like that

They have a lot of money

I have a general sense that large companies do this kind of thing quite a bit

Reply to @littIeramblings, 19:23 UTC · 4 likes

sarah (@littIeramblings): speculate away

Sweet. Obligatory “idk what I’m talking about”

I’m skeptical for kinda illegible qualitative reasons. Like there is only so much information packed into a model of arbitrary size. You can make that info quality better and denser during training by increasing compute/data

Reply, 19:25 UTC · 1 like

given some fixed model output size (“number of parameters”) but that is different

And the model is *already* optimized to like configure itself so as to not need to do search (or else training loss could be lower by a few gradient descent steps). I think - someone can yell at

Thread, continued, 19:26 UTC · 2 likes

me if this is misinformed.

But throwing arbitrary thinking time/inference compute at the model doesn’t seem like the kind of thing that scales. Bc it feels like not the meaningful resource constraint. Maybe it gets you half an OOM or something, but that was already gonna happen

Thread, continued, 19:27 UTC · 1 like

in 6-12 months lol

Reply to @JesseTayRiver, 19:36 UTC · 3 likes

Jesse Smith (@JesseTayRiver): Utilitarians only! Would you sacrifice your life so that hundreds of millions of people could enjoy watching a soccer game?

I feel like my intuition here comes from the fact that irl people can just watch soccer games

Better framing is maybe a game getting canceled at the last minute. Which tbh I still wouldn’t do bc I am mostly selfish even if I’d kinda want to bite the bullet

Reply to @JesseTayRiver, 20:57 UTC · 2 likes

Jesse Smith (@JesseTayRiver): @StefanFSchubert Has some hallmarks of a strategy that might perform worse than chance tbf

Broke: the stars are conspiring in your favor ✨

Woke: the stars are conspiring against you in financial markets

Tweet, 20:59 UTC · 15 likes

Writers block but for hinge openers

Reply to @JgaltTweets, 21:01 UTC · 3 likes

JgaltTweets (@JgaltTweets): The last job once AI has taken everything else

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Sad but true

Reply to his own earlier tweet, 21:01 UTC · 4 likes

Aaron Bergman, June 17, 2024: Writers block but for hinge openers

Normally I’m good at yapping

Tweet, 21:56 UTC · 32 likes

I kinda wanna moan about the heat but it’s really not that bad bc air conditioning

So this is an air conditioning appreciation post

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I did start looking for airbnbs in northern Canada/Greenland/Iceland but being realistic (sadly) I’m not gonna move to Iceland for a month lol

Thread, continued, 21:58 UTC · 9 likes

If you are British and don’t have A/C there is a 99.999% chance you’re being dumb and irrational

Status quo bias goes hard

Reply to @GjMcGowan, 22:05 UTC · 2 likes

George McGowan (@GjMcGowan): @AaronBergman18 No Aaron we’re just poor, and it’s rarely hot enough to need it, and planning regulations stop you getting window units

I kinda don’t believe that most people wouldn’t actually be better off buying it

Ik the poor thing is a meme but still

Reply to @young_opsimath, 22:10 UTC · 14 likes

young_opsimath ⏸️ (@young_opsimath): An EA attended Manifest 2024 and shared a bunch of observations and recommendations. I largely endorse this piece:

https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/MHenxzydsNgRzSMHY/my-experience-at-the-controversial-manifest-2024

One of these is not like the others

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Quote tweet, 22:11 UTC · 9 likes

Is “based” an edgy word? Descriptively, not prescriptively

Poll below

Quoting Aaron Bergman 🔍 (@AaronBergman18): @young_opsimath One of these is not like the others

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Tuesday, June 18, 2024

Reply to @JMannhart, 18:46 UTC · 2 likes

Jonathan Mannhart 🔎 (@JMannhart): @AaronBergman18 Cost me over 300€ to buy one in my student flat (top floor) to buy a mobile unit and then it didn‘t even work that well bc, the window made it difficult. That‘s not that easy to do if you‘re a student or don‘t have much money! You‘re definitely overconfident here imo

The significant figures will increase until the Brits start to shiver

99.9999%

Reply to his own earlier tweet, 18:48 UTC · 3 likes

Aaron Bergman, June 17, 2024: If you are British and don’t have A/C there is a 99.999% chance you’re being dumb and irrational Status quo bias goes hard

I regret to report that maybe it’s not quite 1/100k

Reply, 18:53 UTC

Fine, you don’t need A/C, enjoy ur pollen and pollutant-infused rain as you watch the clouds fade from dark grey to really dark grey at 4:37pm

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This came off as kinda mean

I’m sure it’s lovely 😊

Reply to @Nexuist, 19:11 UTC · 93 likes

andi (twocents.com) (@Nexuist): The reason this was vetoed along with steps is that it was deemed too physically stressful to have to climb into and out of a cabin 100-400x per shift

This seems totally reasonable???

I will take the dorky ergonomic thing any day

Wednesday, June 19, 2024

Reply to @SpacedOutMatt, 02:33 UTC · 3 likes

Matt 🔸 (@SpacedOutMatt): Damn the new MrBeast video is crazy

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That’s it? Those are rookie numbers

Reply to @AndyMasley, 02:35 UTC · 2 likes

Andy Masley (@AndyMasley): @JesseTayRiver The group who talk fast themselves

Hopefully this is a recursive thing and wpm just keeps increasing

Reply to @RichardHanania, 03:06 UTC · 4 likes

Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania): So much talent wasted during Republican administrations. Just hard to fathom why they would do this.

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Reply to @EIFY, 03:13 UTC · 2 likes

EIFY (@EIFY): Not Claude Shannon?

I vote alligator

Reply to @norabelrose, 03:19 UTC · 4 likes

Taylor Belrose (@norabelrose): Idea I'm toying with: a system is sentient if and only if it is alive.

Simulations of living things can also be sentient, and edge cases are partially sentient. AI will be fully sentient when it becomes artificial life. https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/20323/

Uh seems almost certainly wrong?

Computer system designed to emulate architecture of human mind way more likely to be sentient than a blade of grass

Tweet, 03:24 UTC · 9 likes

There should be some sort of wonky market based decision procedure for which drugs are allowed at vibecamp

Reply, 03:34 UTC · 2 likes

lumberjack "migrate off this platform" wharfie (@lumbjackwharfie): THIS is design that is meant to haul stuff while also REFUSING to present an excess danger to everyone else around. Meanwhile we let anybody drive trucks from which they can't see anything.

(quoting @Nexuist: today i learned the Oshkosh NGDV (next generation delivery vehicle) looks like this because the USPS contract mandated that the cabin must be tall enough for a 95th percentile male (6'2) to stand up but low enough for a 5th percentile female (4'11) to see over the hood)

Based truck

Reply to @PeterJAngel, 03:38 UTC · 5 likes

Peter🧅📈 (@PeterJAngel): So like why do people dislike R^2?

I only know I got blocked by that one guy for asking what the R^2 of his paper results were

I’m an R^2 enjoyer

“variation in X explains ___% of variation in y” seems like a very natural and good q to ask, at least if you understand what all those words mean in a technical sense

Reply to @Ruesavatar, 03:59 UTC · 4 likes

rue🌿 (@Ruesavatar): Update: he was invited to her bday party. Today he went gift shopping for her with his dad and returned with a rope ladder. He explained that she loves to climb things so he wanted to give her something to climb. 🥺 She gave him a Minecraft clock for his bday be he’s into numbers

(quoting @Ruesavatar: There’s this girl in my kid’s school that he described as his enemy the entire first year. He hated her. He’d lament about how annoying she was every day. Then last year he started referring to her as his frenemy. Today she’s coming to his bday party. Interesting arc. 🧐)

More rizz than me

Reply to @rajlearns, 04:02 UTC · 2 likes

Raj Thimmiah (@rajlearns): What are people’s experiences doing breathing stuff?

I’ve been messing around with it because my default respiratory rate seems too high

Personally I like breathing. Much better than not breathing

Reply to @norabelrose, 04:05 UTC · 1 like

Taylor Belrose (@norabelrose): @AaronBergman18 I mean it depends on the details but the brain emulation would probably count as living in my view

Then what doesn’t? Specific brain architecture isn’t a property of life - we knew that iguanas and polar bears were alive before we knew how their thinking worked

If you just go on bio curricula then inability to reproduce is disqualifying

Quote tweet, 04:10 UTC · 2 likes

I would do this but I don’t think I have any mutual blocks lol

Most of the time ppl block me it’s just me disagreeing and that getting (perhaps reasonably) misinterpreted as like an insult or signaling antipathy

Quoting bayesian asian (42/50 paintings) (@etirabys): at VC3 I had a ~1.5h talk w a mutual block, mediated by a mutual mutual. 3 people I sorta knew spectated. We reached an ok resolution, unblocked, & got drunk together. due to the intensity of the disagreement the talk was stressful/sad but imo the format rocked, I love spectators

Reply to @AdsoOfBelk, 04:23 UTC · 2 likes

(The tweet being replied to by @AdsoOfBelk is no longer available.)

Setting my height to 7’5” and saying I come from an inches feet culture

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Based

Reply to @AlecStapp, 04:34 UTC · 3 likes

Alec Stapp (@AlecStapp): Holy shit

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Wtf

Reply to @PoliticalKiwi, 04:35 UTC · 2 likes

Jesse🔸⏹️ (@PoliticalKiwi): For the last 8 years I've been following US elections as closely as just about anyone and I can say confidently that nothing will ever top this one. I was 16 at the time and I'll never forget how incredible it was to see a Democrat flip Alabama. Doesn't hurt I made a bunch of $$

(quoting @Nasaaeaoa: I wish I gave a shit about politics in 2017 so I could've witnessed this firsthand)

Did u hear about the 2020 POTUS election

Quote tweet, 04:36 UTC · 4 likes

Me when I tell my family I need to not talk for a while

Quoting Kristen Mulrooney (@missmulrooney): Me and my son are the only ones home tonight and he talked to me for 2 straight hours until I said "Hey bud I just need a half an hour to do a little bit of work," and he said sympathetically "I bet," then continued talking to me for another 2 hours.

Reply to @daniel_271828, 04:56 UTC · 2 likes

zzDANIEL_ETH (@daniel_271828): Pet peeve - when people defend an action by saying it’s “just XYZ”, where the action technically is XYZ but that’s not the thing people have a problem with.

Yes. Although sometimes it’s a dumb defense in the face of actual hyper-intolerance or willing to be charitable

Reply to @visakanv, 05:40 UTC · 3 likes

Visakan Veerasamy (@visakanv): Iirc people with brain damage that inhibits emotion, struggle to make decisions.

even “simple, obvious” decisions like “pick the larger reward” turns out to be downstream of an emotional understanding that bigger rewards are better

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In what sense are they better without emotion?

Reply to @otis_reid, 05:42 UTC · 26 likes

Otis Reid (@otis_reid): Great example of a fact about numbers whose specificity (why >77?) is designed to infuriate — only matched by the fact that the proof involves writing out the cases for 78-333 and then doing induction from there

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(quoting @AlgebraFact: Every integer greater than 77 is the sum of integers whose reciprocals sum to 1.)

Reply to @radbackwards, 05:42 UTC · 2 likes

dar (@radbackwards): Don’t ever let anyone tell you that you can’t project a movie on the side of your cows

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U should project onto two different cows so they can watch too

Reply to @AFraserUrq, 10:56 UTC · 2 likes

Alastair Fraser-Urquhart (@AFraserUrq): How many Year 6s (10 years old) are taking themselves off to takeaways after school???

Completely unserious, I’m afraid.

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(quoting @BBCNews: New takeaways banned in most parts of city https://bbc.in/3xksPkx)

Lol at banning type of business via zoning being the one British policy lever

Reply to @bschne, 11:04 UTC · 2 likes

Benjamin (@bschne): Just saw the difference between a budgeted and actual amount called "variance" on a dashboard

F

Quote tweet, 11:34 UTC · 37 likes

For better or worse

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Quoting Chris Freiman (@cafreiman): Capitalism does seem kinda okay actually

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Reply to @mbolotnikova, 12:12 UTC · 1 like

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What the fuck

Tweet, 12:18 UTC · 1 like

.@mattyglesias makes a good case for the normie theory of obesity (I still think I disagree but nonetheless) https://open.substack.com/pub/matthewyglesias/p/are-ultra-processed-foods-really

Reply to @FrostedSapling, 12:19 UTC · 2 likes

Ivan 🔸 (@FrostedSapling): I answered yes, but not long corridors, instead on staircases

Chaotic neutral

Tweet, 20:44 UTC · 2 likes

Just like me fr

Reply to @NoahTopper, 21:13 UTC · 3 likes

Quinoah 🔍⏸️ (@NoahTopper): @AaronBergman18 @PeterJAngel Silly stats people, R^2 is the coordinate plane

R^2 is a real nonnegative number that depends on R

Reply to @Mjreard, 21:15 UTC · 3 likes

Matt Reardon (@Mjreard): Update from deeper in the thread. Miles meant CEA/EAF team in this post and that they should be actively controlling what can be seen on the Forum (and other places I guess):

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Yes I strongly agree. Any institution with the ability to become illiberal (eg by having moderators) will tend that way without active prioritization of, as you say, “openness”, even if that means hosting abhorrent ideas

Reply to @livgorton, 21:16 UTC · 3 likes

Liv (@livgorton): it turns out travelling with a 2 month old puppy is stressful actually. flight has been delayed and she’s gone full velociraptor mode attempting to destroy the carrier (but at least she’s not crying anymore 😅)

but she is just so so cute and is having little calm moments ❤️

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Since when do u have a puppy

Reply, 21:16 UTC · 1 like

🇨🇦😌

Reply to @Kirsten3531, 21:20 UTC · 3 likes

Kirsten (@Kirsten3531): @AaronBergman18 @livgorton Aaron yearns for Uranium City 🇨🇦

Indeed, she’s beautiful

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Reply to @livgorton, 22:07 UTC · 2 likes

Liv (@livgorton): Clover 🍀

Poast twitter @

Reply, 22:13 UTC · 1 like

I think you’re the only person who thinks this is bad

Reply to @jaybaxter, 22:16 UTC · 2 likes

Jay Baxter (@jaybaxter): Note needed: no, I am not the CEO of "Notes Community" 😅

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Idk I’d take the title

Reply to @austinc3301, 22:20 UTC · 2 likes

Agus 🔸 (@austinc3301): what was so hard about just joining Anthropic, come on

Yeah

Reply to @mattyglesias, 22:31 UTC · 4 likes

(The tweet being replied to by @mattyglesias is no longer available.)

@QualyThe ur hometown

Reply to @ApriiSR, 22:32 UTC · 3 likes

Aprii *️⃣ (@ApriiSR): @TetraspaceWest it was incredible but in retrospect that did make it a little difficult to tease apart what exactly caused which parts of getting over my depression

Based

Reply to @peterwildeford, 22:33 UTC · 12 likes

Peter Wildeford🇺🇸🚀 (@peterwildeford): @livgorton @absurdlymax Wow, it only gets worse in context.

All in 1 paragraph:
- "pro-natalist": cringe
- "the fertility question": cringe
- "man talking about his family is gay": wtf
- "take a risk of becoming a homosexual": wtf x2
- "kids in their profile pics" is akin to Hamas terrorism: major wtf

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The “take a risk” line is a self-aware joke, I’m 95% sure

Reply to @augurydefier, 22:37 UTC · 12 likes

slice (@augurydefier): what's your current PHQ-9 score? see image in reply

11 but annoyed bc I think much of this is either rational or physiogenic, having experienced “actual” depression

Reply to @peterwildeford, 22:50 UTC · 5 likes

Peter Wildeford🇺🇸🚀 (@peterwildeford): @AaronBergman18 @livgorton @absurdlymax I don't get it

It’s obviously not true that he’s gonna become gay, he’s laughing at his own “intuition” mentioned previously

Tweet, 22:54 UTC · 9 likes

Superintelligence is when Spotify can predict what song I will have wanted to start playing better than I can

Reply, 22:57 UTC

Yeah

Reply to @SelonNerias, 22:59 UTC · 3 likes

Selon Nerias (@SelonNerias): @AaronBergman18 @augurydefier I'm at 7 and pretty surprised your score is that high, you come across as less fd up than me (I have bipolar).

Lol yeah I’m pretty physically fucked up atm which definitely manifests as some of these

Reply to @snuppydogg, 23:07 UTC · 4 likes

snuppydogg (@snuppydogg): You'll have to be more specific

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What’s that tweet that’s like

Wars in europe are always like “8 people died and the barn was taken”

Wars in china are always like “192 million people died, 266 million if you include famine”

Thursday, June 20, 2024

Tweet, 00:00 UTC · 81 likes

I personally have a high bar for muting and very high bar for blocking but boy does this guy have bad takes

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Reply to @Rado9910, 00:22 UTC · 25 likes

Rado9910 (@Rado9910): @AaronBergman18 Like... what?

Insinuating EA is at fault for manifest doing something (I’ll post more)

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Thread, continued, 00:28 UTC · 37 likes

A general thing is like branding as a criticizer of EA and then talking about things that are many links away in some social or intellectual graph

So the idea here is EA <> ACX <> white supremacy (the third order thing isn’t even is true but even if it was like give me a break)

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Likewise

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Thread, continued, 00:35 UTC · 26 likes

This thread is literally self-explanatory

I’ll pause for now but I’m sure I could find more

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Reply to @hyperdiscogirl, 00:36 UTC · 8 likes

hyper(bolic) disco(unting) girl in the bay (@hyperdiscogirl): gender || do you sometimes pretend you don't want to cross the road when you actually do so an oncoming car doesn't stop to let you cross

Yeah bc it’s dumb for a car to come to a full stop if letting it through would cost me .1 seconds

Reply to @absurdlymax, 05:59 UTC · 4 likes

Max Alexander (@absurdlymax): Sometimes I'll tweet about EA and then someone will reply like 'that's a cult for idiots' but in a way that makes me think they don't realize I'm an EA

I’m honestly more confident that it’s not an idiot thing than that it’s not a cult

Everyone smart af

Quote tweet, 06:03 UTC · 15 likes

Evidential decision theory

Quoting Someone:

Reply to @ilex_ulmus, 06:12 UTC · 12 likes

Holly ⏸️ Elmore (@ilex_ulmus): Who cares? The quality of twitter discourse is not what I'm working to preserve. Strikes me as incredibly vain and silly to complain that your online group isn't as elite and smart anymore. No acknowledgement that more ppl knowing about the problem is worth a lot.

(quoting @EigenGender: when I first got into Twitter in mid 2022 I was very impressed by the epistemic standards of the AI Safety community and this played a nontrivial role in my career journey to doing AI safety work full time. I don’t think I’d see the same quality today)

Quality of discourse in general seems instrumentally helpful to actually doing ai safety though lol

Quote tweet, 06:36 UTC · 7 likes

Wow

Quoting Trevor Bingham (@22TrevorBingham): First World Pause Coalition protest in Ghana, Africa.

From Jean Barreau, WPC organizer for Africa:

"The first protest of the World Pause Coalition Ghana Chapter held today, June 19 at the US Embassy in Ghana has been a great success. The cooperation of the local authorities has been very helpful. We are making plans to have the next protest in another location. Hundreds of flyers have been distributed and the receivers have received the message with deep appreciation and interest. Thank you."

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Reply to @animalologist, 06:38 UTC · 2 likes

taco belle (@animalologist): This feels like a metaphor for the dating scene

(quoting @animalologist: I own so many socks but so few are in pairs)

The dating scene is a metaphor for my socks

Reply to @norabelrose, 06:53 UTC · 9 likes

Taylor Belrose (@norabelrose): The hard problem of consciousness ~entirely dissolves if you're an anti-realist about science.

Science gives us useful models for predicting and controlling things, but does not uniquely tell us about the fundamental nature of reality.

I don’t see how the hard problem depends on any of this and I also don’t think your second sentence implies anti-realism (like presumably many philosophers who talk about this stuff also thing *philosophy* is as epistemically legitimate as science)

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Reply to @tescrealaccist, 06:54 UTC · 3 likes

TESCREAL/acc💙 (@tescrealaccist): The Bentham bulldog poaster 100% does not lift, which is why it’s annoying when Scott or Tyler link out to him

Cmon man this is basically just bullying

Reply to @keysmashbandit, 07:36 UTC · 5 likes

keysmashbandit (@keysmashbandit): ? most theorems are one (1) sentence

(quoting @TonyTheLion2500: Undergrad/grad students in math have to memorize theorems for exams??? 😭😭😭😭💀 I could never do that. Kudos if you can!)

Yeah but they’re quite informationally dense by design

Some math courses do feel a lot like memorizing vocab

Tweet, 14:46 UTC · 2 likes

FYI Google made it hard to download YouTube videos (I wonder why) so it’s gonna take a little while to get the recent EAG talks on the podcast feed

Reply to @adambinksmith, 14:50 UTC · 1 like

Adam Binksmith (@adambinksmith): there's this nice command-line utility for it (I ask gpt-4 to write the commands): https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp

Big if true, will report back

Friday, June 21, 2024

Quote tweet, 03:25 UTC · 2 likes

Yo

Quoting Alex Albert (@alexalbert__): Back to PRs, Claude 3.5 Sonnet is the first model I've seen change the timelines of some of the best engineers I know.

This is a real quote from one of our engineers after Claude 3.5 Sonnet fixed a bug in an open source library they were using.

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Reply to @AndyMasley, 03:28 UTC · 6 likes

Andy Masley (@AndyMasley): Asked Claude to code me a world map

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This is a scissor statement, I bet

Easy to see through whichever lense (AI not smart/AI very smart) you prefer

Thread, continued, 03:30 UTC · 4 likes

Honestly I’d have guessed that it would do better but in an absolute sense it’s pretty wild that this is from a model (I’m pretty sure) not actually trained to draw anything (multimodal only for the inputs right?)

Tweet, 03:39 UTC · 40 likes

Lmao

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After a couple iterations providing the resulting image. Not bad!

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Reply to @thiagovscoelho, 05:08 UTC · 3 likes

Thiago ✱ (@thiagovscoelho): If you criticize practical actions by EAs, they’re usually very small parts of the movement, so you should still be pro-EA overall. If you criticize core ideas —like me, +@lymanstoneky against focusing on animal welfare— then you’re really anti-EA, but it’s hard for them to care.

(quoting @AaronBergman18: I personally have a high bar for muting and very high bar for blocking but boy does this guy have bad takes)

FWIW “EA” at large is way closer to the “ignore animals” end of the spectrum than “care a lot about animals”. Animal welfare gets only a small fraction of the money and other resources

I think this is bad unsurprisingly (see https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/btTeBHKGkmRyD5sFK/open-phil-should-allocate-most-neartermist-funding-to-animal?commentId=EiayxnzzyXssfJobJ)

Reply to @adambinksmith, 05:10 UTC · 2 likes

Adam Binksmith (@adambinksmith): there's this nice command-line utility for it (I ask gpt-4 to write the commands): https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp

True ergo big

It works. It looks like the code is actively managed pretty aggressively presumably in response to whatever obstacles google throws up, i just never updated the library (Until today) bc im dumb

Reply to @young_opsimath, 07:00 UTC · 1 like

young_opsimath ⏸️ (@young_opsimath): @AaronBergman18 Huh interesting, I got a different result

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*Stochastic* parrot

Reply, 12:21 UTC · 1 like

I mean interpersonal utility (philosophy form) comparisons are like extremely obviously legit to me

It is worse for bob to be tortured than for Tim to get a papercut

Reply to his own earlier tweet, 13:07 UTC · 2 likes

Aaron Bergman, May 25, 2024: Load bearing

Load bearing

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Reply to @Bbburner19, 13:23 UTC · 2 likes

The People Mover That Was Promised (@Bbburner19): @AaronBergman18 Why were you shirtless here?

It’s hot af

Reply to @AndyMasley, 14:25 UTC · 6 likes

Andy Masley (@AndyMasley): Soylent or Huel need to come out with a nutritionally complete coffee creamer. It would change the game

Creamer with appreciable protein is not gonna be great

Reply to @arithmoquine, 14:49 UTC · 2 likes

henry (@arithmoquine): 16th today (✨, 🎉 even.)

- too old to larp as a cracked kid on the internet

- too young to rent a car

- finally old enough to stop combatting child labor laws

Happy birthday, the one true hbd

Quote tweet, 22:54 UTC · 12 likes

This is the first and only “sign up now for a FREE…” that will ever work on me

Quoting Jonathan Birch (@birchlse): Can octopuses feel pain and pleasure? What about crabs and insects? Or organoids, fetuses, future AI? Still time to sign up for a free PDF of my book "The Edge of Sentience: Risk and Precaution in Humans, Others Animals, and AI", out 15 August: http://www.edgeofsentience.com

Tweet, 23:08 UTC · 7 likes

There’s gotta be an arbitrage with Spotify for Podcasters apparently being willing to host an infinite amount of high quality video, forever, for free

Thread, continued, 23:10 UTC · 2 likes

Yes YouTube is like this but they don’t give you an RSS feed with direct public download links

Saturday, June 22, 2024

Tweet, 03:24 UTC · 8 likes

The best—dare I say most cracked—Mac apps are the ones that do exactly one technical operation but a zillion times faster than whatever the fastest normal person (even normal tech-literate) method is

Thread, continued, 03:24 UTC · 3 likes

Idk how u managed to beat ffmpeg conversions by like 10x but good job

Reply to @simulacrababy, 16:42 UTC · 2 likes

annika💒 (@simulacrababy): my brother is doing research in ecuador this summer and he just sent me this pic

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This looks like the archetypal mammal

Reply to @NoahTopper, 16:43 UTC · 2 likes

Quinoah 🔍⏸️ (@NoahTopper): The request: Split a medium fry in half and apply Cajun seasoning to just one half. This was apparently beyond the reasoning abilities of five whole guys.

(quoting @NoahTopper: @visakanv @Aella_Girl Tried this just yesterday for a special request at Five Guys! It failed miserably.)

If it had been 4 or 6 guys it probably would have worked

Quote tweet, 17:09 UTC · 6 likes

When he’s right he’s right

Quoting Yann LeCun (@ylecun): Thoughts exist without language.

Reply to @hbdchick, 21:35 UTC · 3 likes

hbd chick (@hbdchick): 👀🤷🏻‍♀️

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I have nothing against pope Francis but maybe they should hear him out

Reply to @liron, 21:37 UTC · 8 likes

Liron Shapira (@liron): It's crazy to me that Steven Pinker, one of the smartest intellectuals we've got, is so dismissive of the argument for AI extinction risk.

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*Is* he one of the smartest intellectuals?

Quote tweet, 21:55 UTC · 12 likes

Tf is characterAI

Quoting Deedy (@deedydas): Most people don't realize how many young people are extremely addicted to CharacterAI.

Users go crazy in the Reddit when servers go down. They get 250M+ visits/mo and ~20M monthly users, largely in the US.

Most impressively, they see ~2B queries a day, 20% of Google Search!!

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Wait this is actually cool lol

Might become addicted

Reply to @ozyfrantz, 23:31 UTC · 2 likes

ozy brennan 🦙 (@ozyfrantz): TIL that Terrence Howard, who played Rhodey in Iron Man, is a math crank. His system is called Terryology and it proves that 1x1=2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrence_Howard#Terryology_and_other_beliefs

Let’s hear him out

Sunday, June 23, 2024

Reply to @focusfronting, 00:58 UTC · 6 likes

(The tweet being replied to by @focusfronting is no longer available.)

I don’t know what any of this means (tweet included)

Reply to @acesounderglass, 01:08 UTC · 1 like

Elizabeth Van Nostrand (@acesounderglass): Starting a case study on chaos theory. My first question: can a butterfly in brazil actually cause a tornado in texas? surely that small an effect can't propagate that far?

Computer models show that "tiny" effects make huge differences but are they actually butterfly-wing tiny?

Idk anything in particular about chaos theory but I suspect the answer depends mostly on what you want “cause” to mean here

Also there’s like an induction thing of “well if the butterfly wing cause something 10x more causally potent 1 meter away bc of chaos theory” then this

Reply to @PeterJAngel, 01:18 UTC · 3 likes

Peter🧅📈 (@PeterJAngel): Can be people be wrong about their subjective experiences?

Yeah and while obv not an expert I’m probably in at least the 99.99th percentile of time spent thinking about this question

See here

Reply to @PeterJAngel, 02:30 UTC · 2 likes

Peter🧅📈 (@PeterJAngel): I'm pretty much fully Parfit pilled. Reductionism for the win

Qualia is real. People aren't

I agree but these do seem like pretty different issues tbc

Reply, 02:35 UTC · 1 like

Did you tell it what you were gonna say to get the screenshot? I tried this (not a ton of effort but still) and it was << Eliza

Tweet, 02:38 UTC · 8 likes

The diagnostic-treatment criteria in medicine should be such that patients are not made worse off by being slightly healthier and therefore too healthy to qualify for some treatment

Thread, continued, 02:38 UTC · 2 likes

I think there are many areas in which this is not generally the case (lots of endocrine stuff, having to be obese to get semaglitude)

Reply to @Laura_k_Duffy, 03:54 UTC · 3 likes

Laura Muresianu 🌐🔸🇺🇸 (@Laura_k_Duffy): SOMEBODY has to tell them they need to stock more yogurt

Have u considered getting a cow

Thread, continued, 03:55 UTC · 2 likes

And some bacteria powder but I’m guessing this isn’t the constraint

Reply to @JoePostingg, 04:46 UTC · 12 likes

Joe (@JoePostingg): Democrats need to keep Jamaal Bowman in the House. Nobody else in their caucus can move this much mass. https://x.com/i/status/1676942821494751235/video/1

He just like me fr (sometimes wears white t-shirts)

Reply to @no_earthquake, 04:54 UTC · 2 likes

no earthquake (cut his fingers) (@no_earthquake): in an attempt at normalization i’m trying to convince my hot friends of how cool my ac jacket is

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Wait what

Quote tweet, 05:18 UTC · 8 likes

GPT-4 and Claude Opus, let alone the new Sonnet, seem better than me at almost everything *that they do*

The only thing they’re “not as good as people yet” at are things that don’t involve image+text input and text output

Quoting Andy Masley (@AndyMasley): My experience in basically all AI discourse is saying "Wow LLMs are much more capable than I expected them to be" and a bunch of people swooping in to say "You idiot, they're not as good as people yet, and make simple mistakes" and like yes obviously

Tweet, 05:32 UTC · 648 likes

Humans only dominate land use above water, apparently

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Super Mario shit. Surprisingly cool creature https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_cucumber

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Reply to @softminus, 05:47 UTC · 32 likes

Miss Distance (@softminus): people post the former quote about the economics of precision guided munitions in counterinsurgency operations or stuff but the context of the quote in the original text is...rather different from the vibe people usually are going for by quoting it:

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They also took out the “so” which suggests another clause is coming

Quote tweet, 06:02 UTC · 43 likes

Tired take but man it is so dumb the simulators gave us an infinite energy glitch rock and we’re like “nah”

Quoting James Clark 📈📉¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (@mr_james_c): The dumbest part of this is that France runs a majority of its energy via nuclear, so running AC has zero emissions.

We need to stop equating energy reduction with emissions reductions. It's so stupid.

Reply to @ohwizenedtortle, 06:14 UTC · 11 likes

oh dandy lion🔸 (@ohwizenedtortle): We need to cultivate cucumber power

I read the last word as “powder” first and was like “no let them be!!!”

Reply to @kindgracekind, 07:06 UTC · 19 likes

Grace (@kindgracekind): But are they happy?

Idk I hope so!!!

Reply to @joshua_saxe, 08:14 UTC · 4 likes

Joshua Saxe (@joshua_saxe): After a couple days playing with it it seems Claude 3.5 Sonnet unlocks LLM applications that weren't possible with GPT4 and challenges the "LLMs have plateaued" thesis

Bro u have to elaborate it’s illegal to leave a tweet like this

Thread, continued, 08:17 UTC · 2 likes

Unrelatedly this is a good example of a bio that gets an instant follow

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Reply to @bengrossbg, 10:25 UTC · 2 likes

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?¿?

Reply to @202accepted, 11:06 UTC · 2 likes

𝚓𝚒𝚖𝚖𝚢 (@202accepted): giving a girl free medical advice is 6th base but if you send her a bill it’s -6 bodies

(quoting @sparab22: Not sure what stage of the relationship this is, but during our date, the girl I’m seeing complained about strong tooth pain. I took a photo and got 4 different dentists’ quick thoughts. Walked through her dental insurance coverage and coached how to navigate getting an early…)

This is my specialty

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Quote tweet, 11:51 UTC · 33 likes

Cool thread but now I want to know: what jobs are legitimately fake/unimportant/non-functional?

Quoting William B. Fuckley (@opinonhaver): What jobs sound super ‘fake’ but are actually extremely ‘real’?

By that I mean you read the description and think something like “oh ok this is just some bullshit email job” but the actual reality is “no lots of people would definitely die if someone didn’t do this”

Monday, June 24, 2024

Quote tweet, 04:34 UTC · 130 likes

They built the entire field of AI safety like a decade before it would have otherwise developed, if it would have at all??

Quoting Someone:

Reply to @angryfermion, 04:38 UTC · 2 likes

😡fermion, PhD (@angryfermion): what a doofus

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Idk either

Reply to his own earlier tweet, 04:43 UTC · 25 likes

Aaron Bergman, June 24, 2024: They built the entire field of AI safety like a decade before it would have otherwise developed, if it would have at all??

If this doesn’t parse as success, that’s fine, but it does on the rats’ own terms

Reply to @AFraserUrq, 09:54 UTC · 15 likes

Alastair Fraser-Urquhart (@AFraserUrq): I have just drunk several million salmonella bacteria on purpose for a clinical study: AMA!

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My roommate is doing a dysentery human challenge trial rn. Ty both for your service. Question: how does it feel to be so based?

Reply to @ohwizenedtortle, 10:22 UTC · 4 likes

oh dandy lion🔸 (@ohwizenedtortle): Cool! What's the study about?

Salmonella

Reply to @ohwizenedtortle, 10:27 UTC · 2 likes

oh dandy lion🔸 (@ohwizenedtortle): @AaronBergman18 @AFraserUrq Yeah but how much?

Several million

Tuesday, June 25, 2024

Reply to @PradyuPrasad, 07:03 UTC · 3 likes

Pradyumna 🇸🇬 (@PradyuPrasad): we're so back

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Ok but recycling is mostly* dumb

* not metal, that’s worth recycling

Reply to @RafaRuizdeLira, 09:00 UTC · 2 likes

Rafael Ruiz ⏸️🔸 (@RafaRuizdeLira): @austinc3301 This is what my retweets are 🍷🧐

Likewise 🎩

Reply to @RafaRuizdeLira, 16:21 UTC · 3 likes

Rafael Ruiz ⏸️🔸 (@RafaRuizdeLira): @ea_paddington @AaronBergman18 Bear 🐻

Bear

Wednesday, June 26, 2024

Reply to @panickssery, 00:29 UTC · 5 likes

Arjun Panickssery (@panickssery): Trump White House spent $100,000 on modafinil from 2017–2019 lol

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Based

Reply to @strangestloop, 00:31 UTC · 5 likes

Loopy (@strangestloop): chat is this real

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I think so

Reply to @robertwiblin, 15:28 UTC · 6 likes

(The tweet being replied to by @robertwiblin is no longer available.)

Banger

Reply to @focusfronting, 15:36 UTC · 4 likes

(The tweet being replied to by @focusfronting is no longer available.)

Tyfys 🙏

Reply to @NoahTopper, 16:16 UTC · 2 likes

Quinoah 🔍⏸️ (@NoahTopper): @austinc3301 @AaronBergman18 you don’t get to like this tweet unless you’ve read Unsong

Fine

Reply to @NoahTopper, 16:23 UTC · 2 likes

Quinoah 🔍⏸️ (@NoahTopper): @AaronBergman18 @austinc3301 You were supposed to go read Unsong, not unlike my tweet 😭

😈

Reply to @_deepfates, 18:01 UTC · 5 likes

_(The tweet being replied to by @deepfates is no longer available.)

I don’t think that’s true

Reply to @StatsLime, 18:02 UTC · 3 likes

Max ⏸️ Limelihood 🔸🔸🔸 (@StatsLime): the mind-body dualists are trying to censor me on Twitter, but I refuse to be silent: physicalism is not hate speech @elonmusk

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Reply to @a_real_society, 18:39 UTC · 3 likes

society (@a_real_society): The week I took the LSAT I also had 20 hours of interviews, including a 2 hour technical interview that ended minutes before I started the exam

Oof

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Reminds me of this cursed day

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Reply to @JesseTayRiver, 21:05 UTC · 2 likes

Jesse Smith (@JesseTayRiver): @jskf__ Nimby, but for rodents

😢🐿️

Thursday, June 27, 2024

Reply to @Duderichy, 18:46 UTC · 2 likes

(The tweet being replied to by @Duderichy is no longer available.)

Problem with sugar is that it makes everything (including ur fave obesogenic nutrient/food group) taste better, not the sugar itself

Thread, continued, 18:51 UTC · 2 likes

Compare to white rice which is really quite similar nutritionally. Can’t add white rice to peanut butter or oil to make frosting etc

Quote tweet, 19:54 UTC · 9 likes

Humans be different from each other fr

Quoting Alessandro (@polisisti): in one (1) week, I'm going to spend 90 minutes playing this organ as a birthday present to myself, and I'm super excited :)

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Tweet, 21:37 UTC · 24 likes

Almost got Mark Cuban'd

Not caught by spam filter, be careful

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Friday, June 28, 2024

Quote tweet, 08:59 UTC · 7 likes

I absolutely do not have the money for this to make legible sense but I am anti-frugal when it comes to this

Yeah, spend like $60/mo to get a better glimpse into the future. It’s wild that a human-level clippy is even this cheap. This is the last thing I will be saving money on

Quoting sophie (@netcapgirl): when you have to subscribe to a bunch of different LLMs in order to keep up, after this exact same thing happened with streaming services

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Reply, 09:41 UTC · 1 like

Poast regex

Quote tweet, 10:33 UTC · 8 likes

I have the same intuition as everyone else but what’s the actual correlation between seeming old on TV and cognition or productivity?

Personal experience is limited but suggests the answer is “not as high as you’d naively expect”

Quoting delaniac 🌹🌱 (@ChadNotChud): you guys stop ragging on Biden it’s just his stutter

Tweet, 10:35 UTC · 2 likes

Recorded a mediocre thing https://youtu.be/2l-6KQnT6I8

Reply to @AndyMasley, 10:44 UTC · 2 likes

Andy Masley (@AndyMasley): @economeager I was on the fence about getting more involved in EA a few years ago and then in my old job was exposed to a charity where people read stories over Zoom to dogs

How do I sign up

Tweet, 11:17 UTC · 157 likes

Do people realize Biden is POTUS *right now*?

Conditional on what you make of his performance at literally doing the job rn, watching him for an hour on TV should be only a tiny update at the margin

Thread, continued, 11:17 UTC · 13 likes

Like maybe he is too old! But if so you should have concluded that by yesterday morning!

Reply to @DavidSartor0, 11:56 UTC · 2 likes

David Sartor (@DavidSartor0): @AaronBergman18 "the same intuition as everyone else"
Which one? I'm not sure I have much of what you're talking about.

Looks too old

Reply to @austinc3301, 12:45 UTC · 4 likes

Agus 🔸 (@austinc3301): 7 bucks for a normal bottle of water at the airport,,,

If only Biden was a bit sharper

Reply, 13:12 UTC · 1 like

🤝

Reply, 13:15 UTC · 2 likes

Yes, falsifiability is overrated in general and hardly a virtue in one-shot contexts like this

It’s just normal Bayesian evidence all the way down…

Thread, continued, 13:16 UTC · 2 likes

If you say smth only has a one in a trillion chance of happening and then it happens, it’s true that maybe you were just really unlucky but it’s much more likely that you were wrong about the ex ante probability

1%, 10%, 40%, and 49.9% are differences of degree not kind

Reply to @Tymtweet, 13:22 UTC · 166 likes

Tym🔸️ (@Tymtweet): Do your homies text like this?

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I wish

Reply to @Tymtweet, 13:36 UTC · 3 likes

Tym🔸️ (@Tymtweet): I can hook you up man. Also this morning I was looking at https://vizhub.healthdata.org/gbd-compare/ which can give csv downloads and has some insane data

🙏🙏🙏

Reply to his own earlier tweet, 13:52 UTC · 17 likes

Aaron Bergman, June 28, 2024: Like maybe he is too old! But if so you should have concluded that by yesterday morning!

Yeah this is a good counterargument

Reply to @adrusi, 14:35 UTC · 2 likes

autumn (@adrusi): people see something happen and think that it means something

made myself saner relative the the population baseline by not watching this debate

Certain events are schelling points that function to make common knowledge of some sort (whether or not that was ever intended)

The case for caring about the debate is that everyone at least moderately engaged in politics knows that everyone else knows what happened (and if

Tweet, 14:44 UTC · 15 likes

Chevron Deference overturned?!

My cached opinion is that this is extremely bad for state capacity and competent governance. I would love to be convinced otherwise

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4745680-supreme-court-chevron-case/damp/

Thread, continued, 14:44 UTC · 4 likes

Tbh I didn’t think SCOTUS would rule this way because of a maybe naive prior on the justices not liking to unilaterally radically reshape the federal government

Reply to @NathanB60857242, 15:03 UTC · 2 likes

Nathan Barnard (@NathanB60857242): @AaronBergman18 I think it's fine, agencies were powerful and capable pre-1984, and it seems plausible that Chevron was overly differential to agencies. Like it's not clear why the executive branch should be able to decide unchecked what ambiguous law means.

I hope you’re right but no this is the mechanism by which congress can delegate complicated, technical, messy, changes-over-time stuff

This becomes more important the less functional and responsive congress is, and pre-1984 we had a much more functional congress afaik

Reply, 15:09 UTC

I agree in some abstract first principles sense but I think the actual impact will be that most the “questions of law” that would have been handed over to an agency just disappear, not that they get written by congress instead

Tweet, 16:01 UTC · 2 likes

Last paragraph

Tweet, 16:21 UTC · 81 likes

Fascinating that “abolish the FDA” is fringe and radical whereas “neuter every single federal agency, fundamentally transforming the powers of the federal government for better or worse” is, well, evidently inside “the” Overton window

Thread, continued, 16:21 UTC · 15 likes

Hey I like weird and radical ideas. Sometimes they are good. But something is off if the second thing above sounds way more plausibly good than the first. Something something feminist bankteller

Thread, continued, 16:23 UTC · 10 likes

Tbf to get the feminist bankteller thing, you’d want to compare “radically weaken the FDA” with “overturn Chevron”

Yeah I still think this checks out as like either the first thing is super tame or the second is super radical but neither of these sound intuitively right

Reply to @reubgold, 17:04 UTC · 3 likes

Reuben (@reubgold): https://trase.earth/open-data here's where I got it from, it's more for sustainability reporting than anything else

@SpacedOutMatt if anyone has a good use for shrimp supply chain data

Reply to @astridwilde, 18:01 UTC · 2 likes

Astrid Wilde 🌞 (@astridwilde): you are confused by the legal victory of the memeplex where Consequentialist legal theories are literally spoken as curse words because you're trying to understand it in a Consequentialist frame. forgive me for this but, get wrecked 😎

I am confused by the general contours of my mutuals’ attitudes, not by SCOTUS. I “stand by” my confusion too bc I think very few of the people I’m talking about even have a jurisprudential ideology they could name, and politically generally cluster around

Thread, continued, 18:06 UTC · 5 likes

pragmatic libertarian-leaning neoliberalism, which features state incompetence and scleroticism as complaints way more than fundamental principled objections to the roles western governments have assumed over the last century

Thread, continued, 18:10 UTC · 4 likes

I should probably avoid writing a whole essay lol but FWIW I’ve been tweeting and thinking about Chevron as a policy separate from the legitimacy of the process that created it and just now overturned it

Tbh I’m pretty agnostic about whether the recent ruling was “correct”

Quote tweet, 18:21 UTC · 40 likes

Real decoupling hours: who’s writing the “Chevron is correct jurisprudence and terrible for society” take and who’s writing “Chevron is good for society but bad jurisprudence (and so today’s decision was correct)” ?

Quoting Aaron Bergman 🔍 (@AaronBergman18): @astridwilde I should probably avoid writing a whole essay lol but FWIW I’ve been tweeting and thinking about Chevron as a policy separate from the legitimacy of the process that created it and just now overturned it

Tbh I’m pretty agnostic about whether the recent ruling was “correct”

Reply to @RichardHanania, 18:25 UTC · 5 likes

Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania): New article where I explain that Biden won’t quit because being old sucks and the only thing that can possibly make it tolerable is something as cool as being president of the United States. https://www.richardhanania.com/p/biden-wont-quit-because-being-old

My intuition is the total opposite lol

There’s a reason retired people aren’t known for taking on as much stress-inducing responsibility as possible

Reply, 22:14 UTC

I have my own partial genome, at a minimum could compare. Will be interesting whether the samples are human or animal

Reply, 22:25 UTC

Poast

Reply to his own earlier tweet, 22:35 UTC · 21 likes

Aaron Bergman, July 17, 2023: This is an open invitation to always send me any csv’s u stumble across. Idc how, drive link or url or just paste it into DM or reply I love a good csv 🙏🏼

Update: csv should be taken as a symbolic umbrella term which covers tsv, txt, json, and any other structured text data. .Rdata would be cool too

The more the merrier until I run out of cloud storage (1.5TB to go and that’s not a hard limit)

Saturday, June 29, 2024

Reply to @yzilber, 05:58 UTC · 2 likes

Jazi Zilber (@yzilber): same for Roe

(quoting @AaronBergman18: Real decoupling hours: who’s writing the “Chevron is correct jurisprudence and terrible for society” take and who’s writing “Chevron is good for society but bad jurisprudence (and so today’s decision was correct)” ?)

I haven’t written anything longer than this but yeah

Reply to @JacquesThibs, 06:06 UTC · 6 likes

Jacques (@JacquesThibs): anthropic made me feel the agi today

Did I miss smth ¿

Tweet, 06:42 UTC · 3 likes

Ok I am actually not super worried but definitely do not go hang out with livestock (and this is a thing people who follow me do! No farm sanctuary trips or feeding wild animals (😢)!

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Quote tweet, 21:02 UTC · 39 likes

What goes on over here

Quoting Nature is Amazing ☘️ (@AMAZlNGNATURE): The side of planet Earth we aren't used to seeing.

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Reply to @gmiller, 21:17 UTC · 6 likes

Geoffrey Miller (@gmiller): What I fear could happen in October:

The Democrats will lose the White House unless they come up with a truly game-changing 'hail mary' strategy.

Given their willingness to demonize their opponents as 'violent insurrectionists', one logical option would be to stage a false flag 'terrorist attack' with a high death count that can be blamed on 'far-right MAGA extremists'.

It would need to be a very dramatic attack on some place that's sacred to Leftist values, and/or on some people who make highly sympathetic victims.

It would need to happen shortly before the election, so there's not enough time to fully investigate its true organizers & funders.

It would need some plausible patsies, recruited, funded, & incited by government handlers.

Conservatives must expect this, brace for it, & be prepared to counter it.

If you think the Democratic true believers, who consider Trump an 'existential threat to American democracy', would never contemplate such a thing, you haven't been paying attention. They will do whatever it takes to retain power. Period.

And if you think such false flag attacks never happen, or never work, please read some history, starting with the 1933 Reichstag fire that gave the Nazis a pretext for locking in absolute power in Germany.

I hope I'm wrong about this. But I fear that panicked desperation will lead the Democrats to do some truly heinous things.

Give me a fucking break lol

Quote tweet, 21:26 UTC · 5 likes

Computers are fake, no way u can spend 8 hours constantly doing math and not make a single mistake

Quoting SoggyKiwi 🥝🧬🏳️‍⚧️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 (@KiwiSoggy): bro i friggen hate working with large datasets wtf 8 hours just to compute a single metric?? killing myself

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Reply to his own earlier tweet, 21:27 UTC · 3 likes

Aaron Bergman, June 29, 2024: What goes on over here

Oops didn’t mean to do the reply restriction

Reply to @transmissions11, 21:27 UTC · 3 likes

t11s (@transmissions11): average sf street sign

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Bro

Tweet, 21:28 UTC · 8 likes

I think this is the only tweet in existence to use “only Verified accounts can reply”

Reply to @metakuna, 21:30 UTC · 2 likes

metakuna (14/100 blog posts) (@metakuna): my body is a machine that turns its purpose into what it does

Nice

Reply to @AlexGodofsky, 21:36 UTC · 1 like

Alex Godofsky (@AlexGodofsky): Aside from everything else, "we cannot arrest our way out of homelessness" is literally false.

(quoting @ACLU: BREAKING: The Supreme Court ruled today that cities can punish unhoused people for sleeping in public, even if they have nowhere else to go. We cannot arrest our way out of homelessness.)

Seems like a bad decision

Quote tweet, 22:03 UTC · 8 likes

(This is in support of the original post. $1450 for 2000 square feet in NYC is like 1/10 todays price)

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Quoting rosey🌹 (@thechosenberg): We need rents to go down or Boomers are going to the guillotine en masse

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Reply, 22:47 UTC · 1 like

I mean it’s an empirical q what the correlation and R² are. The space of human brains is way more constrained than that of software

Reply to @ilex_ulmus, 23:08 UTC · 2 likes

Holly ⏸️ Elmore (@ilex_ulmus): Something about slow-waddling birds gets me every time 🥺

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@livgorton

Reply to @joodalooped, 23:17 UTC

judah (@joodalooped): software is so limited lol

How so? Isn’t turing completeness the upper bound for info processing

Tbc I may have no idea what I’m talking about, zero formal CS training

Reply, 23:21 UTC

Yeah but re your original point, a list of methods doesn’t tell you the compute specs which you can augment arbitrarily

Whereas human brains are limited in literal size (even with growth hormone and steroids)

Reply to @young_opsimath, 23:30 UTC · 11 likes

young_opsimath ⏸️ (@young_opsimath): Nonprofits can be good

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(quoting @garrytan: Nonprofits are bad We need to bring back high integrity state capacity, highly paid, chosen for merit and held to high standards of accountability The state must end its practice of farming out state capacity to feckless nonprofits that grift and are not held to any standard)

Opening line: nonprofits are bad 🚫

Actual argument: it’s bad for the welfare state to rely on contracting out to nonprofits without proper incentives or accountability systems ✅

Reply to @garrytan, 23:30 UTC · 2 likes

Garry Tan (@garrytan): Nonprofits are bad

We need to bring back high integrity state capacity, highly paid, chosen for merit and held to high standards of accountability

The state must end its practice of farming out state capacity to feckless nonprofits that grift and are not held to any standard

Reply to @shae_mcl, 23:50 UTC · 3 likes

Shae McLaughlin (@shae_mcl): This is actually *incredibly* dangerous advertising. I’m shocked that this doesn’t break laws. Referring to DNA sequencing and polygenic risk analysis as cancer screening??? Claiming that DNA is the foundation of health??? That it’s better than going to a doctor???

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Foundation of health definitely checks out

Reply, 23:54 UTC · 1 like

I agree for “be” as in actively participate, disagree for “have an account”

Public resume + connections is a super legible statement of credibility, much harder to lie in private on a job application

Quote tweet, 23:56 UTC · 5 likes

LinkedIn post feed or whatever it’s called can be dumb/cringe af

You should still have a page

Quoting Aaron Bergman 🔍 (@AaronBergman18): @JesseTayRiver I agree for “be” as in actively participate, disagree for “have an account”

Public resume + connections is a super legible statement of credibility, much harder to lie in private on a job application

Sunday, June 30, 2024

Reply, 00:24 UTC · 5 likes

Daniel Filan 🔎 (@freed_dfilan): @AaronBergman18 a lotta polynesians sailing ridiculously long distances, i assume

I would simply not have done that

Tweet, 00:32 UTC · 8 likes

So do ppl think sub-obesity weight gain and obesity are the same phenomenon?

Not necessarily talking about specific semi-arbitrary BMI thresholds (although those aren’t a terrible place to start)

Reply to @NoahTopper, 01:01 UTC · 2 likes

Quinoah 🔍⏸️ (@NoahTopper): And here I was gonna @ you

@AaronBergman18 @NoahTopper

Tweet, 12:50 UTC · 11 likes

Aside from the actual question at hand, the sociology/social psych and political science of this is fascinating

Coordination without conspiracy (no I don’t think all this was hashed out in a giant WhatsApp group)

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Tweet, 14:45 UTC · 4 likes

More important city, at the current margin (so not total importance integrated over time)?

Tweet, 21:00 UTC · 27 likes

In honor of 2.4k followers, I am going to drink at least 2.4k water molecules today

Tweet, 22:38 UTC · 16 likes

The function of this chair is to exist on top of a shipping container

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