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Aaron Bergman's tweets, November 2023

Every public tweet, reply, quote tweet and retweet that Aaron Bergman (@AaronBergman18 on X, formerly Twitter) posted in November 2023 and has not deleted: 518 posts, oldest first, times in UTC. Each heading links to the original post on X. When Aaron replies to or quotes someone, their tweet appears as a blockquote with their name; those words are theirs, and everything outside the blockquotes is Aaron's.

This page is one month of the complete archive of Aaron Bergman's tweets, which updates automatically every few hours. Previous month: October 2023. Next month: December 2023.

Wednesday, November 1, 2023

Reply, 01:18 UTC · 1 like

(Positive)

Reply to @alt_truistic, 01:20 UTC · 2 likes

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Same

Reply to @RichDecibels, 10:47 UTC · 3 likes

Richard D. Bartlett (@RichDecibels): tell me something good about a couple you admire

Paul and Ojeya might save (or have saved) the world

Idk anything about their relationship tho

Quote tweet, 11:18 UTC · 4 likes

Yo what

Quoting Séb Krier (@sebkrier): The White House just announced the United States AI Safety Institute, policy guidance on the use of AI by the U.S. government, a normative framework addressing the use of AI capabilities in the military domain and much more. Yuge! https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/11/01/fact-sheet-vice-president-harris-announces-new-u-s-initiatives-to-advance-the-safe-and-responsible-use-of-artificial-intelligence/

Reply to @lastpositivist, 11:21 UTC · 2 likes

Liam Bright (@lastpositivist): @Thinkwert OK but even on the intended read were there people who previously thought mental health was hocus pocus? Who is being disabused here?

I think they’re trying to assert “mental health treatment is not hocus pocus” which I mean I’m all in favor of but sometimes it definitely is

Reply to @davidmanheim, 12:13 UTC · 1 like

David Manheim (@davidmanheim): College is supposed to be full-time.

Evidently, the expectation in elite schools is that a full course load should make sure you still have time for a part-time consulting project, protests, and the extra-curricular goals students have. It seems @Princeton doesn't do that - yet.

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Full time jobs aren’t generally expected to be all consuming

Reply to @johnjhorton, 12:43 UTC · 2 likes

John Horton (@johnjhorton): Black coffee
Scrambled eggs
Handful of pistachios
Salad
1200 calories worth of Reese’s peanut butter cups
Glass of wine

Help, someone who is good at nutrition…

*it’s the salad dressing*

Reply to @AISafetyMemes, 12:44 UTC · 2 likes

AI Notkilleveryoneism Memes ⏸️ (@AISafetyMemes):

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The implied log scale makes it better

Thread, continued, 12:45 UTC · 2 likes

Actually probably log(log(log(x)))) or smth

Tweet, 13:01 UTC · 4 likes

Kind Hispanic women interfacing between a mix of normie, senile, and insane patients and the all-at-once normie (doctors), senile (fax machines), and insane (everything else) medical system are the backbone of America

Reply to @ohhermeticlion, 13:22 UTC · 2 likes

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Who could have predicted

Tweet, 14:33 UTC · 118 likes

> bag secured (prescription for non-controlled-but-stupidly-hard-to-get drug)
> P(doom) down 45%->35% in 48 hours (that’s like +10 expected years for me personally)
> walking 4 hours home to celebrate and bc it’s perfect walking weather (41° and sunny)
> we are back

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Reply to @JgaltTweets, 14:37 UTC · 7 likes

JgaltTweets (@JgaltTweets): @AaronBergman18 Hey it's the guy from the meme

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Reply to @trevposts, 15:02 UTC · 2 likes

Trevor Levin (@trevposts): "10 expected years for me personally" for Parfit type reasons?

Wait are u objecting to too high or too low lol

Reply to @JesseTayRiver, 15:08 UTC · 3 likes

Jesse Smith (@JesseTayRiver): @AaronBergman18 @alt_truistic Wtf you guys

Wait it’s a fascinating question, and has non suicidal implications eg when should you reduce ur own future optionality (like the siren guy tied to the mast)

Reply, 16:50 UTC · 2 likes

No this is a different thing!

Executive order mostly. Shocked tbh

Reply to @littIeramblings, 16:52 UTC · 2 likes

sarah (@littIeramblings): oh

Wait more tractably u could probably just train urself to do this by chewing nicotine gum but only when walking. Or use ur preferred addictive+dopaminergic substance of choicr

Tweet, 17:16 UTC · 5 likes

In case anyone thinks they understand pharmacology, there are two drugs that are ostensibly extremely similar (ie differences don’t appear until you really go looking)

One of them puts me to sleep even at a tiny dose. The other is basically a miracle drug

Reply to @ElytraMithra, 19:25 UTC · 2 likes

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Hyoscyamine and dicyclomine lol

Reply to @btheshoe, 19:28 UTC · 7 likes

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You’re allowed to estimate probabilities without a formal model or domain expertise

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Tweet, 20:07 UTC · 222 likes

PSA to all non-rationalist ppl that see this (and this is totally sincere, not trying to mock anyone): numeric probabilities don’t imply that they were derived via any sort of rigorous methodology

Thread, continued, 20:07 UTC · 31 likes

Maybe in some parts of society they do, and people refuse to put numbers on things otherwise, but elsewhere that’s not the case

Thread, continued, 20:07 UTC · 34 likes

Like if someone (credibly) told you “Guess the temperature in Moscow rn (no phone etc); I’ll give you $10k iff you’re within 1 degree,” you’d probably try to give your actual best guess despite not living there or having any special expertise.

Thread, continued, 20:07 UTC · 27 likes

You wouldn’t “make it up” or refuse to guess

I guess that isn’t a perfect analogy for P(doom) because there are tighter common sense bounds and more experience, but the final number should be treated the same

Thread, continued, 20:07 UTC · 20 likes

Its my best guess - nothing less and nothing more - and I’m happy to describe what it’s based on (in this case basically a weighted avg of people I’d individually trust more than myself to answer before I knew what they’d say)

Reply, 20:37 UTC · 9 likes

Coase’s "Net effect?" Ghost 🏴🕊️ (@GhostCoase): @AaronBergman18 The self-appointed rationalist moniker is incredibly pompous.

Anyhow, people realize that, which is really why they mock it. It’s almost transparently little more than vibes cloaked in pseudoscientific precision.

Name? Sure a little pompous, others probably agree but use it bc everyone does, which is how names usually work

Thread, continued, 20:38 UTC · 7 likes

And I think the pseudoscientific thing is just wrong. Ofc there are probably specific lesswrong posts where this is true but like unjustified precision seems more common in literal science

Reply, 20:40 UTC · 4 likes

^unjustified confidence as well, which seems like the worse mistake to make

Reply, 23:22 UTC

https://x.com/aaronbergman18/status/1719735870788432265?s=46

Reply to @JacquesThibs, 23:26 UTC · 3 likes

Jacques (@JacquesThibs): This is also why pomodoro sucks for cognitive tasks btw, it pulls you out of flow too and makes it harder to accomplish tasks that need a lot of things loaded into your working memory (like programming)

(quoting @JacquesThibs: you need to be flow state maxxing. you curate your environment, prune distractions. make your workspace a temple, your mind a focused laser. you engineer your life to guard the sacred flow. every notification is an intruder, every interruption a thief. the world fades, the task…)

Plenty of cognitive tasks where continuous working memory doesn’t matter a ton and they’re also just not that fun. Its good for these

Reply to @nickcammarata, 23:28 UTC · 2 likes

Nick (@nickcammarata): @AaronBergman18 was 14deg off

Better than me (no I will not be elaborating lol)

Reply to @rgblong, 23:32 UTC · 4 likes

Robert Long (@rgblong): not sure I should accept this calendar invite. that's a lot of consciousness

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Maybe illusionism is true in general but you can get a taste of the real thing for 5 hrs

Thursday, November 2, 2023

Reply to @alt_truistic, 01:11 UTC · 4 likes

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Go to cute girl with adhd meetups

Reply to @christineist, 01:14 UTC · 4 likes

christine (@christineist): omg omg omg just in 📣, first relationship from twitter dating app!!!!!!!!!

Who has the goss 👀

Reply to @nickcammarata, 01:26 UTC · 2 likes

Nick (@nickcammarata): emotions at different levels of sensory clarity afaict:

no emotions, numbness
emotions, but not embodied
embodied emotions, you feel an emotion and it’s attached to a body sensation
just body sensations, everything is just expansions and contractions

I suspect you’re just typical minding here. I’ve never felt emotions as a bodily sensation, like at all, regardless of intensity or while meditating or anything like that. Strong intuition its just like aphantasia in that some people have it and others do not

Quote tweet, 14:42 UTC · 11 likes

New Tulsa just dropped

Quoting Phil BuildTheFutureNow 🇺🇸🦅🌲💙 (@PhilSustainable): What if we all just moved to Buffalo, NY
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/199-Babcock-St-Buffalo-NY-14210/30209692_zpid/

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Reply to @JgaltTweets, 15:04 UTC · 2 likes

JgaltTweets (@JgaltTweets): @AaronBergman18 No internal photos of the house though 👀

Oh lol I wasn’t even thinking about this specific house

Somewhere on my computer there’s an rmd file that tries to filter all American cities down to reasonable low cost but high qol options and I remember Buffalo being there (alongside like Philadelphia and Cincinnati I think)

Reply to his own earlier tweet, 15:24 UTC · 2 likes

Aaron Bergman, November 2, 2023: New Tulsa just dropped

8 bed 5 bath triplex for $640k

Perfect for a semi-group house https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/343-Richmond-Ave-Buffalo-NY-14222/132860564_zpid/

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Reply, 16:07 UTC · 6 likes

The idea is probably to sidestep the hassle and nightmare of even having to consider it

Reply to @rgblong, 16:16 UTC · 2 likes

Robert Long (@rgblong): @keithfrankish is this possible?

Afaict nobody has argued that genuine phenomenal consciousness is real, but humans don’t have it

Someone should fill this niche

Reply to @ilex_ulmus, 16:23 UTC · 2 likes

Holly ⏸️ Elmore (@ilex_ulmus): @AaronBergman18 Terrible weather

Cheems mindset

Tweet, 17:35 UTC · 2 likes

Damn even eBay is getting in on AI governance

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Reply to @absurdlymax, 18:36 UTC · 3 likes

Max Alexander (@absurdlymax): New EA cause area: Just... beach

Evil (beach = bad)

Reply to @skooookum, 18:38 UTC · 10 likes

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At first I interpreted this as “my therapist gossips with other therapists at conferences about me” not “other ppl tell their therapists about me”

Quote tweet, 18:45 UTC · 4 likes

Reminder of this and also to scroll through Qualy’s tweets bc there are lots of bangers that never showed up on my tl

Quoting Qualy the lightbulb (@QualyThe): Reminder to British ppl to buy air conditioning now to invest in your summer 2024 productivity 😌

Reply to @bryan_caplan, 18:50 UTC · 2 likes

Bryan Caplan (@bryan_caplan): Your life will no longer be worth living when you can no longer…

None of these per se (like if you isolated them from senility)

Reply to @AndrewKerrNC, 19:04 UTC · 12 likes

Andrew Kerr (@AndrewKerrNC): NEW: Your tax dollars are paying for AOC's luxury DC apartment thanks to a new House rule Democrats quietly passed late last year.

Over 200 members of Congress -- 113 Democrats and 104 Republicans -- have billed taxpayers this year for their DC rent under the new program. This comes as a record number of Americans struggle to keep a roof over their own heads amid persistent inflation.

Representatives make $174,000 a year -- well over twice the median household income.

Taxpayers are also financing daily meal expenses for members of Congress under this new program. Matt Gaetz came in first -- he's billed taxpayers on average $1,250 a month to pay for his meals.

https://freebeacon.com/democrats/your-tax-dollars-pay-for-millionaire-democrats-swanky-d-c-apartments/

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This is unironically totally fine and good, and we should be paying them more

Reply to @PeterJAngel, 21:56 UTC · 2 likes

Peter🧅📈 (@PeterJAngel): @AaronBergman18 @rgblong @keithfrankish Feel like you can get an AI take here

We are the unthinking flesh that exists to make the thinking machines

Maybe a multiverse argument too: if it’s conceivable (even if impossible for us), it exists in one Everettian branch (I doubt this actually checks out lol)

Reply to @StefanFSchubert, 22:00 UTC · 2 likes

Stefan Schubert (@StefanFSchubert): Homicide levels in Latin America are brutal even compared with the US

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Surprised Costa Rica is that high

Reply to @rgblong, 23:23 UTC · 2 likes

Robert Long (@rgblong): I think for that to work, you’d have to have conceivability entail *nomological* possibility. i don’t think anyone argues for that (and rightly so)

New word just dropped

Reply to @QualyThe, 23:24 UTC · 5 likes

Qualy the lightbulb (@QualyThe): Me when someone tells me they're building a swapcard alternative

(quoting @mpopv: Me when someone tells me they’re building a document signing product)

Each EAG should just be one big email chain

Reply to @jvboid, 23:25 UTC · 2 likes

Jacob (@jvboid): Have you seen this dalle error before?

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Ya happened to me once

Friday, November 3, 2023

Reply to @waynehhsiung, 01:47 UTC · 3 likes

Wayne Hsiung (@waynehhsiung): Wayne is in jail now without bail following his felony conviction. But he knows the animals have it much worse. Here's his words to each of us in rescuing every animal from a cage. #SonomaRescueTrial
https://blog.simpleheart.org/p/i-am-in-jail-and-im-grateful

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🐐

Reply to @littIeramblings, 08:25 UTC · 3 likes

sarah (@littIeramblings): me waiting several hours for my late-sleeping American internet friends to get up and like my early morning tweets

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Time is an illusion

Reply to @absurdlymax, 16:05 UTC · 2 likes

Max Alexander (@absurdlymax): Another outstanding month of growth

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This cannot go on

Tweet, 18:17 UTC · 59 likes

Big update toward “every ‘friendly discussion’ I’ve ever had was seen by the other person/people as an ‘argument’”

Reply to @_chair, 18:58 UTC · 2 likes

Chair (@_chair): @AaronBergman18 discussions are friendly by default, if you have to say "friendly" that's because you're trying to soften something

I feel like this is only true if you’re saying it to the people ur gonna converse with (and in this case there’s affirmative reason to add it to make it seem more different from “argument”) but maybe this is just cope lol

Reply to @mirandahzhang, 21:03 UTC · 2 likes

Miranda Zhang (@mirandahzhang): was there a specific incident that catalysed this update?

Yes

Reply to @austinc3301, 21:12 UTC · 3 likes

Agus 🔸 (@austinc3301): que forma de despertarme hoy!

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¡vamos conchetumare!

(Espero que eso es una situación apropriado)

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Reply to @repost_offender, 21:31 UTC · 8 likes

«•Airship🪼Evangelist•» (@repost_offender): Mfw I'm "just asking questions"

Unironically, just asking questions is a legit thing that should have the presumption of innocence most of the time

The more public the question asking, the more sus tho

Reply to @Authw8, 22:03 UTC · 23 likes

tom bombadil (@Authw8): Slippery slope is a fake fallacy, but I think sunk cost is pretty real, one of the classic fallacies.

+1

The pendulum has swung back toward “everything is rational for some secret/esoteric reason” (and I think much of this correction is good) but yes this is a way in which people straightforwardly act against their own interests/preferences

Saturday, November 4, 2023

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Quoting Agus 🔸 (@austinc3301): What I've been working the last few months at @RethinkPriors is now public!

Go check out the Cross-Cause Cost-Effectiveness Model:

https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/pniDWyjc9vY5sjGre/rethink-priorities-cross-cause-cost-effectiveness-model

Reply to @sarah_micheleg, 05:28 UTC · 2 likes

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Real

Reply to @frances__lorenz, 05:35 UTC · 4 likes

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My interpretation is: “utilitarianism as generally understood isn’t “airtight” in that it’s ~certain to be true, but moral emergencies like poverty and factory farming make the cost of indecisiveness/inaction sufficiently big that u gotta pick ur best guess and roll with it”

Reply to @depthsofwiki, 06:26 UTC · 2 likes

depths of wikipedia! (@depthsofwiki): On this day in 1910, Pauline the cow arrived at the White House

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Retvrn

Reply to @frances__lorenz, 17:30 UTC · 2 likes

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Nice

Reply to @absurdlymax, 17:31 UTC · 2 likes

Max Alexander (@absurdlymax): @AndyMasley @AaronBergman18 moral realism in shambles

Narrator: moral realism was not in shambles

Reply to @lisatomic5, 22:45 UTC · 6 likes

lisatomic (@lisatomic5): Letting 12yo tweet this:

What's your least favorite modern day system?(Drive-throughs, Door dash, Stop signs, and etc.)

Standard practice fish slaughter

Reply to @karma_gardener, 22:47 UTC · 3 likes

𝕂𝚊𝚛𝚖𝚊 ❀ 𝔾𝚊𝚛𝚍𝚎𝚗𝚎𝚛 (@karma_gardener): WHY IS THERE SOMETHING RATHER THAN NOTHING?

Idk

Reply to @anabology, 22:54 UTC · 2 likes

anabology (@anabology): You should be eating tums all day. Tumsmaxxing. Especially if you’re a carnivore, it’ll offset your phosphate excess and provide your gut much needed CO2.

I don’t have a mechanistic argument for why this is wrong, but consuming way more calcium (or base if that’s what matters) than anyone did for almost all of human seems just very likely to be bad on priors

Sunday, November 5, 2023

Reply to @TetraspaceWest, 02:23 UTC · 2 likes

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Literally one such case

Reply to @AFraserUrq, 02:57 UTC · 2 likes

Alastair Fraser-Urquhart (@AFraserUrq): Watching these reels knowing FULL WELL there is a bottle of milk older than the Aztec empire in the bottom of my fridge

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There’s a can of Arizona tea that’s been in my fridge in a weird hard-to-see spot for as long as I can remember. Pretty sure it expired in 2015 or so. At this point it’s considered a cultural object and we’d have to get a permit to remove it (only this last sentence is a joke)

Quote tweet, 04:39 UTC · 11 likes

Some bad, wrong critiques of this are making the rounds, but I think there are good true critiques

First, my interpretation of this line is that two income households are at least partially a coordination failure - people neither like it nor can individually opt out

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Quoting Matt Darling 🌐🏗️ (@besttrousers): @JohnTeufelNYC The reason most families are dual income is wages have risen.

https://www.city-journal.org/article/the-economic-forces-pushing-both-parents-to-work

Thread, continued, 04:39 UTC · 1 like

Ofc this doesn’t directly contradict the claim being made (higher wages explain rise of 2 income households), but it definitely puts it in a different light

Thread, continued, 04:39 UTC · 7 likes

Further, at least some of the gains in real output are going to be captured by rent seekers (everyone bidding up the cost of housing which goes to landlords for one)

Thread, continued, 04:39 UTC · 2 likes

Second, even assuming that “all else equal, higher wages increase two income household share in the US”, is true (which I believe), terms like “account for” can only be reasonably applied to describe a change over time or delta between groups, not a level as is implied here

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Thread, continued, 04:39 UTC · 4 likes

Third, afaict this whole analysis ignores the changing nonmaterial “wage” of being a homemaker

Humans care a ton about status, and at least in some demographics, probably bc of the race dynamic described above, “stay at home mom” has become at least a bit pejorative

Reply to @digital_orb000, 04:41 UTC · 1 like

tade (@digital_orb000): little tip for guys whatever a girls relationship to food is is what her relationship to sex is and therefore to you

What

Tweet, 08:58 UTC · 22 likes

You might not like it, but this is what peak podcasting performance looks like

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Reply to his own earlier tweet, 08:59 UTC · 1 like

Aaron Bergman, November 5, 2023: Further, at least some of the gains in real output are going to be captured by rent seekers (everyone bidding up the cost of housing which goes to landlords…

why would I use 'further' in a tweet

Reply to @littIeramblings, 12:10 UTC · 1 like

sarah (@littIeramblings): the eloquence and precision astounds

I *never* use filler words, so u can assume all the worst parts are my guest

Reply to @trevposts, 19:37 UTC · 1 like

Trevor Levin (@trevposts): It does

Lax bro universally means “relaxed brethren” - EA doesn’t need more jargon

Reply to @xsphi, 20:59 UTC · 4 likes

tess (@xsphi): holy shit it's that simple

(quoting @cxgonzalez: i asked the happiest girl i know what her secret was and she said “i never use the word ‘should’”)

Narrator: it was not that simple

Reply to @AISafetyMemes, 23:58 UTC · 2 likes

AI Notkilleveryoneism Memes ⏸️ (@AISafetyMemes): Real

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Orthogonality thesis is ran through

Monday, November 6, 2023

Tweet, 03:16 UTC · 12 likes

https://www.aaronbergman.net/p/max-alexander-and-i-solve-ethics#details

The world has been waiting with bated breath for Pigeon Hour episode 8 with the one and only @absurdlymax. The world can now breath again

Reply to @polisisti, 03:21 UTC · 2 likes

Alessandro (@polisisti): @AaronBergman18 @absurdlymax always be Maxmaxxing

Indeed

Reply to @SpacedOutMatt, 03:21 UTC · 2 likes

Matt 🔸 (@SpacedOutMatt): My commute tomorrow just got 2x more bearable

New cause area

Tweet, 14:31 UTC · 43 likes

You’re probably overestimating the risks and underestimating the benefits of using your real name, face, and location for your profile

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Quote tweet, 15:28 UTC · 8 likes

Announcement: if anyone tries to argue about the implications of utilitarianism using the VNM theorem, I will be removing them from my moral circle 😤

Quoting Peter Berggren🔸 (@berggrenpeterm): Announcement: if anyone is trying to make an argument about the feasibility of AI alignment based on Gödel's incompleteness theorems, I will be ignoring them unless they can explain Gödel's completeness theorem to me.

Tweet, 15:40 UTC · 24 likes

My 85 y/o grandfather, who has a flip phone, never uses the iPad we got him, and who’s understanding of the world has been basically destroyed by Fox News, nevertheless knew of the big players in the AI supply chain…

Thread, continued, 15:40 UTC · 9 likes

and didn’t think heavy investment was silly at all because a couple people he was following (including Amy Su, CEO of AMD, who he cited by name???) thought the same

Thread, continued, 15:40 UTC · 13 likes

Why? (Tbc this is my guess, not what he said)

Because he was a Wall Street guy for like 50 years and continues to do his own active trading with his own money

Amazing what happens when you’ve got skin in the game

Tweet, 16:33 UTC · 1 like

Should probably read if you live or spend a lot of time in DC (and are following or being followed by me lol) https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/vFqa8DZCuhyrbSnyx/integrity-in-ai-governance-and-advocacy

Tweet, 17:02 UTC · 21 likes

You: grinds leetcode for months or years, has focus-grouped the answers to each “tell me about a time when…?” type question

Me, 35 minutes before an interview:

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Reply to @ines__circle, 17:06 UTC · 2 likes

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“What type of thing makes u super excited after u order online?” might be a good hinge etc prompt

Reply to @absurdlymax, 17:14 UTC · 1 like

Max Alexander (@absurdlymax): @AaronBergman18 @grapeintuition Yeah Ines, we gotta get your hinge in top shape

Can I bet on who she’ll match with

Reply to @littIeramblings, 18:53 UTC · 14 likes

sarah (@littIeramblings): colour me befuddled

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Hot take we should treat animals better so this doesn’t make sense as a headline

Reply to @Rohanburdened, 23:32 UTC · 4 likes

Rohan 🌱🔸️🇧🇷 (@Rohanburdened): @AaronBergman18 What are possible benefits of it?

Making friends more easily through the platform (both by like chatting online first and by getting recognized irl), with location so you can meet in person)

Maybe professional benefit or networking but that prob depends on industry

Thread, continued, 23:35 UTC · 2 likes

I also suspect it’s lower stress bc like you don’t have to feel on guard about not letting anything slip. All the more so if you use ur alt for ~spicy~ takes but only occasionally, so those would be attached to ur name if it got out

Tuesday, November 7, 2023

Tweet, 14:21 UTC · 31 likes

Smart

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Reply to @sarah_micheleg, 14:46 UTC · 3 likes

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This is maybe taboo to say but like if I were you I wouldn’t drive several hours just to vote unless you had good reason to think your vote had more than like a .01% chance of swinging the election

Reply to @Endothermia, 14:55 UTC · 2 likes

Endothermia (@Endothermia): it’s actually insane that complex multicellular life ever emerged, like how isn’t everyone constantly talking about this

Yes but it’s inevitable given beings able to consider the fact

Reply to @StefanFSchubert, 15:15 UTC · 2 likes

Stefan Schubert (@StefanFSchubert): 55% of Finnish 65-74 year-olds judge that their ability to work is still excellent, yet only 10% still work.

It's an odd, unfair, and wasteful system we've built.

Wait what’s the system discouraging 70 y/o from working?

Tweet, 16:45 UTC · 17 likes

I thought a lot of the critiques of EA in @TheZvi’s Going Infinite review (link below) were basically wrong, but this one is at least interesting and probably right (and more than it might seem at first glance)

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/AocXh6gJ9tJC2WyCL/book-review-going-infinite

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Thread, continued, 16:45 UTC · 5 likes

It is, I think, a core explanation for why I call myself a total utilitarian but have some heterodox views about what that implies.

The moral value is fundamental and primary, the territory. The numbers are the map.

Thread, continued, 16:45 UTC · 3 likes

Indeed, they’re a sort of map that’s especially helpful and sometimes adequate for utilitarianism specifically…

Thread, continued, 16:45 UTC · 5 likes

But utilitarianism is a claim about states of the world and their underlying moral value, not *directly* a claim that the moral world is adequately modeled by the set of real numbers, standard arithmetic, and comparison operators [<, >,= ]

Thread, continued, 16:45 UTC · 4 likes

To beat a dead horse, those come second, perhaps but *not necessarily* as a useful or even adequate tool

Tbc I think in most normal real world situations, the model is adequate, but there are at least two situations I know of (well, I think) that it fails

Thread, continued, 16:45 UTC · 6 likes

1) Infinite ethics

Does any self-described utilitarian really believe that in an infinite universe, it’s totally fine to make a happy person miserable because the states of the world sum to infinity?

Thread, continued, 16:45 UTC · 3 likes

2) Causing intense suffering. Is there anything I could offer you that you’d accept (selfishly, for this thought experiment) in exchange for a week of excruciating torture?

https://www.aaronbergman.net/p/my-case-for-suffering-leaning-ethics

Thread, continued, 16:45 UTC · 3 likes

I know some bite the bullet here (I do not), but think its difficulty at least demonstrates the *plausibility* that some things are sufficiently bad that no amount of wellbeing justifies them morally

(this is my main heterodox view and the link above defends it more)

Thread, continued, 16:45 UTC · 3 likes

Luckily there’s a mediocre (in spite, not because of my guest) quality podcast episode in which @freed_dfilan and I discuss

https://www.aaronbergman.net/p/6-daniel-filan-on-why-im-wrong-about

Reply to @GjMcGowan, 22:44 UTC · 3 likes

George McGowan (@GjMcGowan): Big problem with “I cook, you clean up” division of labour is it creates terrible incentives for the cook

Yes!! I told my parents this long ago but they never listened

Wednesday, November 8, 2023

Reply to @GjMcGowan, 13:17 UTC · 4 likes

George McGowan (@GjMcGowan): Beautiful post by an EA hero

https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/gxppfWhx7ta2fkF3R/10-years-of-earning-to-give

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🐐

Reply to @NoahTopper, 13:39 UTC

Quinoah 🔍⏸️ (@NoahTopper): Anyone else always briefly think @AaronBergman18’s bio says “Pro EA suffering”?

lol, maybe worth a change

Reply to @SpacedOutMatt, 13:40 UTC · 2 likes

Matt 🔸 (@SpacedOutMatt): @AaronBergman18

Reply to @christineist, 13:43 UTC · 3 likes

christine (@christineist): hey twitter dating app community,

I wanted to let you know of a white hat security breach incident that occurred last Friday 11/2/23 from 4-530pm.

Probably a well-resourced state actor

Quote tweet, 13:50 UTC · 4 likes

If this is you, plz hire me

Quoting Bojan Tunguz (@tunguz): True story: I once worked at a startup that was trying to build enterprise software in R.

Quote tweet, 19:20 UTC · 13 likes

@AaronBergman18

Quoting Nathan 🔎 (@NathanpmYoung): QT with the account you agree with most often.

Mine is @robertwiblin

Reply to @NathanpmYoung, 19:24 UTC · 6 likes

Nathan 🔎 (@NathanpmYoung): Noone blows up planes anymore so we should probably reduce airport security a bit and see if that changes anything. If a plane blows up, we can put it back.

Lots of time and money wasted in security queues that might not be necessarily

I can’t tell if this is satire

Reply to @cammakingminds, 21:05 UTC · 1 like

Lucid™ (@cammakingminds): I've come to understand ω or "ballsack emoji" is quite important in ML literature.

Can’t unsee

Reply, 21:19 UTC · 1 like

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Would have thought this was insane 5 years ago. Not a libertarian in general but medicine should move way in that direction

Reply to @_chair, 21:46 UTC · 10 likes

Chair (@_chair): suppose N 13 year olds are dying of cancer and each's dying wish is to be directly responsible for 1/Nth of a murder. For what value of N

Utilitarianism DISPROVED

Reply to @yoltartar, 21:47 UTC · 2 likes

hinterlander (@yoltartar): for context, this is 100% more pants than i owned before

Was gonna ask “is this more or less than before”

Reply to @mattyglesias, 21:53 UTC · 13 likes

Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias): Is academia okay?

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I mean the blurb is using leftist terminology but the general idea of getting the perspective+knowledge of criminals or just people with very different life experience from avg academics seems good

Reply to @thechosenberg, 21:55 UTC · 5 likes

rosey🌹 (@thechosenberg): LETS GOOOOOOOO

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“Agree” uh you mean no longer banned from?

Reply to @absurdlymax, 22:49 UTC · 4 likes

Max Alexander (@absurdlymax): @NoahTopper @AaronBergman18 Pro EA suffering REDUCTION

It’s actually pro

1) EA suffering
2) Reduction https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reduction_(cooking)

Tweet, 23:07 UTC · 17 likes

.@TheZvi is quite hard on EA here, and I’m not even half way through (it’s 30k words lol) so grain of salt etc, but so far my main takeaway is:

Way more EAs should be trying (relatively) high risk, hits based EtG… https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/AocXh6gJ9tJC2WyCL/book-review-going-infinite

Thread, continued, 23:07 UTC · 6 likes

Pre-2020ish(?), personality selection effects, culture, and probably other features of EA meant that willingness to try this was highly correlated with overconfidence/hubris/all you can eat buffet levels of bullet biting (which are in turn probably correlated with dishonesty etc)

Thread, continued, 23:07 UTC · 14 likes

But this doesn’t have to be the case!

If you’re the kind of person who can’t imagine doing some of the things SBF did (including but not only fraud), you may be the kind of person who should be trying to make a billion dollars!

Thursday, November 9, 2023

Reply to @SpacedOutMatt, 01:32 UTC · 7 likes

Matt 🔸 (@SpacedOutMatt): I'd be very excited to read the Aaron distillation of the Zvi review

I’m excited to read the Matt review of the Aaron review of the Zvi review of the Michael Lewis review of FTX

Tweet, 06:30 UTC · 6 likes

You love to see it

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Darn

Reply to @Kirsten3531, 15:19 UTC · 4 likes

Kirsten (@Kirsten3531): wait was feeling bad and then I stayed home and spent the afternoon on Twitter and now I feel... better?? that's not how this is supposed to work!

Regression to the mean go brr

Friday, November 10, 2023

Reply to @tyler_m_john, 04:13 UTC · 10 likes

Tyler John (@tyler_m_john): Email sign-offs are one of the better examples of short term arbitrary cultural lock-in. There is simply no reason to sign off emails with a salutation and your name and yet it's universally practiced and (almost without exception) people who don't do this are violating a norm.

Dear Mr. John,

Good tweet.

Sincerely,
Aaron

Reply to @littIeramblings, 20:15 UTC · 2 likes

sarah (@littIeramblings): thanks @AkashWasil for having me on your podcast to chat about what it’s like to engage with AI safety as a person without a tech background, and why I think everyone deserves a voice in the discourse!!

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0gnBiOLHm46YfL6Kubm1KL?si=tV3AkHypSECgQh9dIxCqqQ

🫛🫛🫛

Reply to @prerat, 20:25 UTC · 1 like

prerat (@prerat): it's just a stochastic parrot

(quoting @MorbidKnowledge: In 2008, a Quaker parrot named Willie alerted his owner, Megan Howard, that a toddler she was babysitting started choking on her breakfast. When 2-year-old Hannah began to turn blue, the bird squawked loudly to get Megan's attention. Then he started saying 'Mama baby'…)

Reply to @SpencrGreenberg, 20:28 UTC · 2 likes

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75th or 100th if by percentile, but 25 or 0 on an absolute scale

Reply to @natfriedman, 23:02 UTC · 1 like

Nat Friedman (@natfriedman): I'm interested in funding early stage startups building evals for AI capabilities. If you're working on this please get in touch!

@panickssery

Reply, 23:03 UTC · 1 like

No (bc I don’t watch movies, checkmate)

Reply to @frances__lorenz, 23:08 UTC · 2 likes

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Ah yes, webrestaurantstore, the leading authority on sanitation and health

Reply to @lxrjl, 23:14 UTC · 1 like

alex lawsen (@lxrjl): Which ADHD medication has worked best for you?

Dex > adderall > methylphenidate ≈ lisdex > nicotine > just caffeine > theobromine> modafinil

Reply to @frances__lorenz, 23:15 UTC · 1 like

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Julia galef gives u a free pass on this one 👍

Tweet, 23:22 UTC · 34 likes

Hypothesis: the “podcasts don’t really teach you anything” crowd are also the “listen at >1.25x” crowd

At least for me, there’s a big gap between “feel like I can follow the words” (~2x) and “have enough mental slack to fully process them” (~1x)

Reply, 23:55 UTC · 2 likes

Shitty chess game - they’re all pawns

Saturday, November 11, 2023

Tweet, 02:52 UTC · 3 likes

Oh, the voice calls are to collect data to train some @xai thing on (probably text to speech as part of smth multimodal)

Probably gonna record each side individually as well as all together so can get ground truth speaker identification and do self supervised learning

Reply to @vivian_belenky, 02:57 UTC · 2 likes

viv 🔸 (@vivian_belenky): Most podcasts are unlistenable below 1.5x because they're not very information dense to begin with. Also most books. Though there are certainly exceptions eg: I just started Empire and had to slow it down to process it

Ya maybe, most of my listening is 80k + Dwarkesh + readouts of EA Forum and Lesswrong posts which I’d guess are relatively dense

Reply, 03:02 UTC · 1 like

Yes to “If you struggle to explain what you do and why” being a red flag, but no to “it’s complicated” aka “this” being a red flag

Eg I’d be shocked if Paul C couldn’t explain his theory of change but not shocked if it was a bit complicated to a smart layperson

Tweet, 03:07 UTC · 5 likes

A tad dated (by that I mean 7 months lol) but there is literally a yt video of one such explanation:
https://youtu.be/YTlrPeikoyw

Reply to @prerat, 03:25 UTC · 2 likes

prerat (@prerat): does anyone else get confused between PUA and PUFA

No

Reply to @EpistemicHope, 06:00 UTC · 9 likes

Eli Tyre (@EpistemicHope): "If a person is not an EA before 2019, they're missing an earnest commitment to doing good. If they're not disillusioned with capital-E capital-A in 2023, they're low on ability to distinguish between good things and things that say 'good' on the tin."

Disillusioned has too strong and negative a connotation for me, but replace it with “annoyed by specific ways the actual movement fails to live up to its ideal” and yeah

Reply to @christineist, 06:03 UTC · 3 likes

christine (@christineist): me at 19, very into rock climbing

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(quoting @univrsw3th4rt: me at 19 (my first modeling gig i think???))

Same

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Reply to @binarybits, 07:29 UTC

Timothy B. Lee (@binarybits): For example, two of the three folks apparently think there's a >10 percent chance that we'll increase global energy consumption 1000x in the next five years. Leaving aside whether we can invent new generation technology that fast, the logistics are totally impossible.

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I’ll bet at 1% (don’t expect u to take this but just in case)

$100 from me if no

$10k from you if yes

Reply, 08:11 UTC · 1 like

Sounds good! Ur locked so feel free to suggest a mutual who can be the judge in case it’s not obvious

Reply to @knowclarified, 19:50 UTC · 3 likes

Arthur (@knowclarified): 6 3’ signing in, here to defend all short kings

🫡 thank u for ur service

Sunday, November 12, 2023

Tweet, 00:44 UTC · 19 likes

What is going on here?

Reply to @Trail_Cams, 01:01 UTC · 2 likes

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Dog

Reply to @austinc3301, 01:08 UTC · 2 likes

Agus 🔸 (@austinc3301): @absurdlymax @littIeramblings @AaronBergman18 happy to be of service

🫡🫡🫡

Reply to @JesseTayRiver, 01:11 UTC · 2 likes

Jesse Smith (@JesseTayRiver): @AaronBergman18 Don't worry this guy's on it

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Mystery solved

Tweet, 01:13 UTC · 3 likes

Bunch of new EA Global talks dropped on the pod

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Reply to @polisisti, 01:25 UTC · 4 likes

Alessandro (@polisisti): Just got these slightly-brighter-than usual lights for winter, and I'm really enjoying the warm colour and extra brightness. Would recommend 👍🏻

They're a little taller than normal light bulbs, so you'd need to make sure a lamp shade isn't too short for it

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Haha haha YES

Reply to @RavenNole, 01:27 UTC · 42 likes

RavenNole 🇺🇸 (@RavenNole): Putting a swastika inside a Jewish star is never okay and just helps perpetuate antisemitism and holocaust denial.

Not all bad things should be crimes

Reply to @dendricide, 01:32 UTC · 3 likes

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Who’s working on this

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Reply to @pikavik, 05:01 UTC · 1 like

vik (@pikavik): what do u guys think of my layout plan

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👍

Reply to @Maratus_spider, 05:25 UTC · 2 likes

Michael Doe (@Maratus_spider): Wrap-around Spider - Dolophones species
Patonga NSW Australia

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@littIeramblings

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Tweet, 05:37 UTC · 19 likes

Tragic

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Quote tweet, 06:20 UTC · 20 likes

Me at 19

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Quoting mads 🧐 (@alastor_madeye_): me at 19.

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Reply to @wrathofgnon, 06:40 UTC · 1 like

Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon): "More than sixty years after it was last recorded, an expedition team has rediscovered an iconic, egg-laying mammal in one of the most unexplored regions of the world. Attenborough's long-beaked echidna."
https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2023-11-10-found-last-bizarre-egg-laying-mammal-finally-rediscovered-after-60-years

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New platypus just dropped

Reply to @breaking2morrow, 07:08 UTC · 2 likes

Brother Arþur (@breaking2morrow): @soundrotator Yes but also no.
In ways, it's actually really easy.
But as a man, you first have to learn to understand person that often has a totally different way of interacting with the world than you were conditioned to do.
So, I suppose, it's kinda like being a woman dating a man, but not.

Is there a good (ie empathetic, non-culture war) resource for learning about/understanding that different way of interacting a the world? (100% serious lol)

Reply to @absurdlymax, 17:35 UTC · 3 likes

Max Alexander (@absurdlymax): @JesseTayRiver @AaronBergman18 This is fair but also Aaron is a strange guy so his parents must be strange too; it is causally required

Lmao

Reply to @lastpositivist, 18:03 UTC · 2 likes

Liam Bright (@lastpositivist): Gonna rededicate my life to philosophy. Will go on a pilgrimage to the birthplace of philosophy (the Stone Pony bar in New Jersey) at earliest convenience.

U should hang out with @absurdlymax there

Reply to @RafaRuizdeLira, 18:18 UTC · 2 likes

Rafael Ruiz ⏸️🔸 (@RafaRuizdeLira): @frances__lorenz I'm all of them

lol was about to comment “why not both” (except pointing out signaling in others)

Reply to @frances__lorenz, 18:26 UTC · 1 like

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Ya but “can” is doing a lot of work here - like in some sense u always “can” unless you’re like physically restrained

Seems good to track whether your espoused views are being influenced by social pressure, at least for important topics

Reply to @frances__lorenz, 18:37 UTC · 1 like

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Ya fr but the line in the meme combines them (also I kinda doubt we actually disagree on much lol)

Monday, November 13, 2023

Reply to @frances__lorenz, 15:12 UTC · 1 like

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What did u do with Frances

Reply to @QualyThe, 15:20 UTC · 3 likes

Qualy the lightbulb (@QualyThe): 6000 Quallower celebration 🥳! Reply to be assigned a role in the Multinational AGI Qonsortium

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💡🙏🏼🦐

Reply to @QualyThe, 15:23 UTC · 3 likes

Qualy the lightbulb (@QualyThe): @AaronBergman18 Drone pilot

I’m ready to serve

fail oh no GIF (gif, plays on X)

Reply to @littIeramblings, 15:54 UTC · 2 likes

sarah (@littIeramblings): my Spotify algorithm thinks i just want to listen to sad acoustic songs about being confused and lost in your twenties and feeling uncomfortable in your body and goshdarnit she’s so right

AI recommendation engine go brr

Thread, continued, 15:57 UTC · 1 like

Actually mine is I think overfitting or something like that bc random Turkish songs I’ve never seen before show up in playlists of mostly songs I like. Guessing like one Turkish guy somewhere has extremely similar taste in music so it’s going off of that lol

Quote tweet, 16:21 UTC · 19 likes

🤝

Quoting prerat (@prerat): rationalists and e/acc's when the FDA comes up

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Reply to @frances__lorenz, 17:37 UTC · 2 likes

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New pfp lol

Reply to @absurdlymax, 17:38 UTC · 2 likes

Max Alexander (@absurdlymax): I've done so many EA fellowships I've started running into people randomly from those (and like semiregularly)

Based

Reply to @Mihonarium, 17:50 UTC · 8 likes

Mikhail Samin (@Mihonarium): Wrote an EA Forum post, "It's OK to eat shrimp: EAs Make Invalid Inferences About Fish Qualia and Moral Patienthood"
https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/spa8rpfqzPptbqdYH/it-s-ok-to-eat-shrimp-eas-make-invalid-inferences-about-fish&source=publish_share

Seems overconfident and probably wrong depending on what “run” is supposed to mean here.

We have no idea what’s going on with qualia, and philosophy of mind is the one thing I think Eliezer gets super wrong (at a bare minimum for overconfidence)

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Reply to @young_opsimath, 19:21 UTC · 2 likes

young_opsimath ⏸️ (@young_opsimath): @AaronBergman18 What's wrong with the FDA

Rant/ramble transcription

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Also, like, there is so much status quo bias here. Like if ibuprofen wasn’t OTC rn, I think a lot of people would find a proposal to make it OTC extreme or dangerous. But nobody (afaik) wants to make it Rx only today!

Tuesday, November 14, 2023

Quote tweet, 07:03 UTC · 4 likes

Extremely humbling blog post

Quoting Aron Vallinder (@aronvallinder): @ejjiott https://www.thebigquestions.com/2018/12/19/ups-and-downs/

Reply to @ChrisLloyd__, 15:45 UTC · 3 likes

Chris (@ChrisLloyd__): is anything taboo in EA?

Yes

Reply to @littIeramblings, 20:19 UTC · 4 likes

sarah (@littIeramblings): another one for the CV

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lmao

Wednesday, November 15, 2023

Reply to @PeterJAngel, 06:26 UTC · 2 likes

Peter🧅📈 (@PeterJAngel): @absurdlymax @AaronBergman18 this is big

o shit

Thursday, November 16, 2023

Reply to @NoahTopper, 00:06 UTC · 2 likes

Quinoah 🔍⏸️ (@NoahTopper): @littIeramblings I’m gonna read all your tweets in a different voice, now. “Regre’able, innit?”

New cause area: teach all the British ppl to say the ‘t’ sound. Millions struggle with this every day 😢

Reply to @QualyThe, 00:41 UTC · 2 likes

Qualy the lightbulb (@QualyThe): people who bookmark tweets, what are you doing with these bookmarks?

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Reply to @JacquesThibs, 00:46 UTC · 3 likes

Jacques (@JacquesThibs): There’s a new species that is kinder, more pro-environment, smarter, supports scientific inquiry (not scientism), etc. Has the markers of a better society.

Something happens. Either humans or the alien species survive. Which one would you prefer to survive? | Are you F or M?

Idk because of the pro-environment clause lol

Reply to @NunoSempere, 00:53 UTC · 3 likes

Nuño Sempere (@NunoSempere): 1. Open terminal
2. HOMEBREW_NO_AUTO_UPDATE=1 brew install poppler
3. In terminal, navigate to your folder
4. pdfseparate -f 1 -l 10 "Worth the Candle.pdf" page%d.pdf
5. pdfunite page*.pdf part.pdf

Ya funny thing about ChatGPT is learning that a few apps I’ve paid for (not much but still) are literally single line zsh commands

Reply to @RichDecibels, 01:12 UTC · 2 likes

Richard D. Bartlett (@RichDecibels): tag yourself i am trembling

I’m footnote 127

Reply to @RFishBlueFish, 01:56 UTC · 2 likes

Gil (@RFishBlueFish): @AaronBergman18 @littIeramblings I’ve been listening to a bunch of these and I find it very funny how you’ve turned “talking with friends” into a podcast series

I’m expecting a Grammy for this groundbreaking new subgenre

Reply to @clovercaps, 02:02 UTC · 3 likes

4 leaf clover (@clovercaps): fun fact, kit kats are made in a similar way with broken kit kats being added to the filling - makes me question how they made the first kit kat

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Atheism disproved

Tweet, 02:17 UTC · 21 likes

Idk who needs to hear this, but if you can afford it, you should almost certainly be paying $20/mo for chatGPT+

Especially if you’re doing anything altruistic including EtG/donating, since its expected returns in productivity or whatever are >$240/year

Reply, 02:18 UTC · 1 like

https://x.com/aaronbergman18/status/1724975018407322017

Quote tweet, 02:39 UTC · 7 likes

Based and correct

Quoting Riemannujan (@Riemannujan): @lisatomic5 many parents don’t want to have to treat their kids as full people. they consider them lesser subjects, and using the normal prosocial strategy they would use with other adults feels like an implicit acknowledgment that this isn’t the case.

Reply to @daniel_271828, 02:53 UTC · 3 likes

zzDANIEL_ETH (@daniel_271828): Hot take but I think worrying about that is ~penny wise and pound foolish

Yeah it’s reasonable to consider but no way it checks out as like worth the cost

A world in which ppl concerned about AI don’t use AI seems way worse

Reply, 03:02 UTC

Also there are copyright laws and classified documents etc

Reply to @Timothy02483682, 03:07 UTC · 2 likes

Timothy Barnes (@Timothy02483682): @absurdlymax Not true. Diet hard, lift hard and you too will have very good definition.

Grey pill is that this would be mostly true without the “very” but testosterone matters more than any other single factor for size and definition and ability to maintain test levels while dieting seems pretty genetically determined

Tweet, 03:13 UTC · 2 likes

The people demand more csv files ‼️

Reply to @deepfates, 03:13 UTC · 3 likes

deepfates.delve.town (@deepfates): wyd after smoking this?

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Wild guess: ozempic?

Reply to @AlecStapp, 03:23 UTC · 64 likes

Alec Stapp (@AlecStapp): How is this real

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lol I unironically totally support this

Tweet, 03:29 UTC · 37 likes

Me normally on scout mindset: 🔎🔥🕵️😍🎆🔢

Me on scout mindset when deciding whether to mentally count 100g of 86% dark chocolate as a source of caffeine: ❌🙅‍♂️👎🙈🚮

Quote tweet, 03:36 UTC · 36 likes

Fr the AMA-FDA nexus gatekeeping which molecules (even those with ~0
negative externalities!) I’m allowed to ingest is quite blatant authoritarianism that Americans have learned to accept as normal and inevitable

Quoting 🏳️‍🌈Mar G-O 🌐🇺🇦 (@MariGO2thepolls):

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Reply, 03:41 UTC · 1 like

This one works for me (also I don’t rly care about what category it falls into. Object level the system in question is bad regardless of label)

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Reply to @AviN102, 03:57 UTC · 3 likes

Avi Norowitz (@AviN102): That's a lot of dark chocolate. Did you eat an entire bar?

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Boy dinner

Reply to @algekalipso, 04:40 UTC · 4 likes

Captain Pleasure, Andrés Gómez Emilsson (@algekalipso): This reveals some of the artifacts of wave computing in the visual field. Notice the "pressure" coming from the darker regions "pushing" space. 😁

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Lol the one in the middle is literally a different shape

Reply to @austinc3301, 04:46 UTC · 2 likes

Agus 🔸 (@austinc3301): @katiedimartin sorry for the random rant, this happens to be a thing I think about a lot and [I think] I get where you're coming from, but sometimes I just wish tradeoffs were more visible to others

I endorse everything agus says, here and till the end of time

Quote tweet, 05:08 UTC · 2 likes

This is good tbc but some context fwiw:

Guessing >60% of my middle school classmates took algebra during or before 8th grade (1 year before “at grade level,” formally)

Quoting SF Guardians (@sfguardians): Woohoo!!!!!

“Board of Supervisors’ Rules Committee voted unanimously to move forward with a ballot measure urging SFUSD to make first-year algebra available to middle school students by the eighth grade.”

Via @MikeEge

https://sfstandard.com/2023/11/13/california-math-wars-san-franciscans-demand-8th-grade-algebra/

Thread, continued, 05:08 UTC · 3 likes

2 and 3 years ahead tracks were available too

About a dozen of us got a bus from the local high school (where we went directly in the morning if I’m remembering right) back to the normal middle school in 8th grade for I guess pre-calc

Thread, continued, 05:08 UTC · 4 likes

While this is good, it really feels like the bare minimum. So unnecessary to make “let kids take different math classes” a culture war thing

Reply to @BowTieOrangeGuy, 05:10 UTC · 1 like

Mr Bow Tie (@BowTieOrangeGuy): are kids hard coded to repeatedly ask "why?"

is this a cross-cultural phenomenon?

if so, does that tell us something about how brains work?

They cooking fr

Reply to @krishnanrohit, 05:30 UTC · 4 likes

rohit (@krishnanrohit): is it just me, or do y'all also get a rush from ignoring python warnings?

You ignore warnings because you like to live dangerously

I ignore warnings bc I have no idea what tf they mean

We are not the same

Reply to @zantafakari, 05:31 UTC · 2 likes

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Same

Reply to @seconds_0, 05:34 UTC · 2 likes

0.005 Seconds (3/694) (@seconds_0): Literally the best part of my work day is my wife sends me pictures and videos of my son on adventures all day and it makes me so happy

I should get a wife and kid

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Reply to @br___ian, 05:55 UTC · 2 likes

bri (@br___ian): my friends, let us coordinate!

you are more likely to go to:

Nooooo ppl are answering wrong noooooooooo

Reply to @petergyang, 07:46 UTC · 1 like

Peter Yang (@petergyang): Human architecture has become too advanced for even AI

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Haha YES

Reply to @br___ian, 07:53 UTC · 2 likes

bri (@br___ian): cerebrolysin sounds like it would be Much worse for you than it is

Sounds like an obscure micronutrient. Like “carotenoid” or “riboflavin”

Reply to @qorprate, 07:58 UTC · 6 likes

snav (@qorprate): Imagine looking at this chart as a sexless person and concluding that you "just need to work on yourself"

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(quoting @utotranslucence: Imagine looking at this chart as an obese person and concluding that what you have is a ‘personal willpower’ problem)

I mean in both cases, at an individual level “working on yourself” is indeed the right thing to do (unless you have a huge amount of money or power)

But “exercise willpower [implicitly to just power through hunger]” is a specific subset of that; ≠ “work on urself”

Reply to @Malcolm_Ocean, 08:03 UTC · 4 likes

Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️ (@Malcolm_Ocean): how to go viral: tweet something that has a clear insight to those open to one but is also easily misinterpretable by people who will quote-dunk and critique it

Case study lmao

Reply to @ilex_ulmus, 08:34 UTC · 1 like

Holly ⏸️ Elmore (@ilex_ulmus): This song always gets me so hard bc (imo) he's saying that not only is being high a way to escape his pain, but it's the only way he can tolerate happiness w/o self-judgment.

I relate the immiserating fear of accepting yourself and accepting happiness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YFu4dvMHHY

lol at the (I’m guessing unintentional) double entrendre

Reply to @littIeramblings, 09:04 UTC · 2 likes

sarah (@littIeramblings): What do I do about the fact that my brain is constantly trying to produce tweets to the point that it‘s whirring like an old, overheating laptop

For some of them, notes app note instead of tweeting. See if any marinate into anything more interesting or deep or smth over time

Reply to @samswoora, 09:13 UTC · 1 like

Samswara (@samswoora): For some reason bagels pretend to be healthier than donuts but that’s bullshit. Theyre probably worse for you?

Bread > fried bread, no?

Reply to @ChanaMessinger, 09:42 UTC · 2 likes

Chana (@ChanaMessinger): Is your relationship solid? Because it's been seeming Platonic to me

Banger

Reply to @jozdien, 09:54 UTC · 6 likes

Arun Jose (@jozdien): @AaronBergman18 @TetraspaceWest Dark chocolate has caffeine?

Not for me it doesn’t

Reply to @RafaRuizdeLira, 15:05 UTC · 2 likes

Rafael Ruiz ⏸️🔸 (@RafaRuizdeLira): Just realized what the distinction between analytic and continental philosophy was all along

Decouplers = nerds = high conscientiousness = analytic philosophers?

Contextualizers = poets = low conscientiousness = continental philosophers?

(quoting @StefanFSchubert: . @everytstudies's decoupling vs contextualising might in part be a sub-class of a wide thing: literal vs associative communication. E.g. the latter means you don't read claims as stated, but as some vaguely adjacent claim; essentially second-guessing the writer. ->)

Pretty sure I’m a good counterexample

Not super low conscientiousness but way below avg among EAish people, almost certainly above avg decoupling+nerdiness+interested in analytic philosophy specifically

Reply to @ryancbriggs, 20:09 UTC · 2 likes

Ryan Briggs (@ryancbriggs): @AaronBergman18 depends on their age. One surprising thing for many liberals is the degree to which kids are not small adults, but people with entirely different needs that include things like "having limited choice" and "having boundaries set for them." It's philosophically inconvenient.

I'm not sure we actually disagree. I don't think limited choice and boundaries are necessarily bad/wrong. I do think irl (at least among people I encounter) those things are set without respect for the kid's literal current happiness/distress

Reply to @Timothy02483682, 20:17 UTC · 1 like

Timothy Barnes (@Timothy02483682): @AaronBergman18 @absurdlymax @absurdlymax is a chad. He doesn't need to worry about that.

fr

Friday, November 17, 2023

Reply to @ilex_ulmus, 12:09 UTC · 2 likes

Holly ⏸️ Elmore (@ilex_ulmus): @AaronBergman18 Oh no, is it "hard"? 🫢

“Gets me hard” is certainly a phrase lol

Reply to @ohwizenedtortle, 12:19 UTC · 5 likes

oh dandy lion🔸 (@ohwizenedtortle): My mum's getting older and she seems to be perennially tired. She does do a lot of stuff, and I mostly talk to her after work and often when I want her help with something. But idk it feels like she wasn't as bad in the past.

Fuck aging

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I refuse to learn what this is. I will not read any replies to this

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Huh just realized random girls and women I see are probably wearing makeup. That sucks fr, try to start a coordinated campaign or smth

Reply to @SpacedOutMatt, 12:28 UTC · 1 like

Matt 🔸 (@SpacedOutMatt): Start a coordinated campaign to get men to wear makeup

Truly evil

Reply to @JHB_econ, 12:42 UTC · 5 likes

Jessica H. Brown (@JHB_econ): Dr: After we use the med, you’ll want to pump & dump for 24h

Me: What is it exactly? I can research it

Dr: Lidocaine

Me: Lidocaine?! Oh, that’s totally safe for nursing!

Dr: But just to be safe…with the baby…

😤 So tired of ppl issuing mandates to women for no reason! 😤

Who would win: MD going on cached heuristics or an UpToDate pdf

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Tweet the bees you want to see in the world 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝

Quoting arabella ※ (@arabelladevine): be the tweeter you want to see in the world

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Good example (from the other direction) of why “no evidence” is generally a bad phrase to use In this case there really is good evidence that the thing in question is fine!

“No evidence that lidocaine while nursing hurts the baby” would be basically true but seriously misleading

Quoting Jessica H. Brown (@JHB_econ): But you want to be ✨safe✨ for the ✨baby✨

Good thing it’s ✨already✨ ✨safe✨ for the ✨baby✨ 😒

I happened to know this one off the top of my head, but anyone can search the lactmed database & see for themselves

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The hard case of course is what to do if these empirical studies didn’t exist

No empirical evidence on strawberries while breastfeeding? Definitely go for it (no plausible harmful mechanism, we would have discovered harm if so)

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No empirical evidence on a new drug whose molecular structure is surprisingly similar to thalidomide? Precautionary principle, easy case

Unfortunately lots of things fall between strawberries and thalidomide 2.0

Reply to @skooookum, 14:22 UTC · 3 likes

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Same experience. I practically tried to get addicted to nicotine so I could use it to replace other stimulants, to no avail

Reply to @NathanpmYoung, 14:24 UTC · 4 likes

Nathan 🔎 (@NathanpmYoung): Thanks, I guess

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So 1?

Reply to @khomless, 16:16 UTC · 1 like

Khom (@khomless): @AaronBergman18 it's working!!!

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Lfg

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Might be my least favorite ad of all time

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New longtermist intervention just dropped

Quoting UK Prime Minister (@10DowningStreet): Following today’s announcement, this could be the last photo of a politician pointing at a pothole.

We’re investing £8 billion to improve your local roads and fix potholes for the long term.

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One thing that *I* think is true about the LW mods is that they mean exactly what they say and nothing more, not 100% but more than almost everyone else. So I don’t think any value laden subtext here actually exists

Reply, 20:13 UTC · 1 like

I’m dumb, tf is the sexual non relation?

Reply to @sanjehorah, 20:25 UTC

sanje horah 🇵🇸🇺🇦 — PNEUMATICS ONLY (@sanjehorah): im sure youve had a conversation like this with a girl before

I mean not that I can remember lol

Is this just like how a guy and girl can be on super different pages about eg what is a date? Or just generally talk past one another? Or like sexual incompatibility (if this one, why use “the”)?

Reply to @thoth_iv, 20:29 UTC

Thŏth (@thoth_iv): He says "actually bad and devious", so I interpret that to be a value judgement.

He’s saying “finding out someone was in a secret gay relationship is evidence that they’re bad and devious,” not “being in a SGR itself is bad and devious”

Reply to @prerat, 20:56 UTC · 2 likes

prerat (@prerat): what

Yeah

Reply to @nickcammarata, 21:04 UTC · 6 likes

Nick (@nickcammarata): 😬

Drop the internal gossip (DMs open)

Quote tweet, 21:47 UTC · 4 likes

Andy manifested this

Quoting Andy Masley (@AndyMasley): I want to get off Mr. Altman's Wild Ride

Reply, 21:56 UTC · 5 likes

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Yo

Reply to @Kirsten3531, 22:10 UTC · 2 likes

Kirsten (@Kirsten3531): How would you dress if money was no consideration?

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(quoting @made_in_cosmos: How would you dress if money was no consideration?)

Exactly the same

Saturday, November 18, 2023

Reply to @dissproportion, 05:45 UTC · 2 likes

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He just like me fr (mammal, at least 2 legs)

Reply to @Andercot, 05:55 UTC · 3 likes

Andrew Côté (@Andercot): My Highest Likelihood Explanation on Altman's Departure:

Erosion of senior leadership experience on the OpenAI Board of Directors created a situation where factionalism over the proposed use of a recent breakthrough led to a political takeover.

Over the last few years, board of directors at OpenAI lost a lot of its senior oversight due to conflicts of interest - Elon Musk, Reid Hoffman, Will Hurd. The only person left with significant leadership experience is Adam D'Angelo.

After Will Hurd left, it was a split vote, 3v3:

The likely factions were Ilya, Sam, Greg vs Adam, Tasha, Helen.

Firing Sam was politics.

It was not over performance, strategic leadership, or vision for the company. Rather, there was contention over the use of a breakthrough that drove a vote between safetyism and deployment speed.

Why this was Factionalism - Sudden Ousting
If this was planned, Sam would not be representing OpenAI at APEC events all week, OpenAI DevDay two weeks ago. If Microsoft knew or was involved, Satya Nadella would not have been on-stage with Sam at Dev Day.

Microsoft claims they didn't have advance knowledge of this - they claim they knew about it one minute in advance. There clearly was not internal alignment on this decision either - @gdb just quit over this.

What was the wedge issue? Just recently at APEC Sam announced he had witnessed the frontier of knowledge being pushed back four times in his experience at OpenAI, and the last time was recently - a couple weeks ago.

Likely Greg and Sam wanted to build and deploy it in earnest, and Ilya didn't. Ilya had become lead of the "Superintelligence Alignment" division earlier this year. I would bet Ilya was the vote that broke the stalemate and led to the departure.

Sam was kicked out over concerns he would move AI forward too fast by deploying a recent breakthrough.

It's unlikely departure was related to anything regarding operations, cash burn, partnership-making ability, and so forth - OpenAI has blank-check status for ability to raise, they have huge cashflow, only a few hundred staff, are beyond doubt.

Most importantly, the suddenness of the departure, lack of communication to Microsoft, and resignation of Greg Brockman all point to this being a sudden move by a board faction.

Likely, the board felt that OpenAI was completely setup - in partnerships, funding, team, and direction, they could afford to push Sam out to regain control of of the direction and pace of roll-out of AI tools without threatening the security of OpenAI.

Whatever the proximate justification behind the lack of being 'candid' - this is likely ultimately a split between safetyism and acceleration.

Explanations that should be discarded
Sam is extremely successful and intelligent, but also has a bulletproof reputation as an upstanding, intentional and pro-social person. He's also a billionaire several times over.

The language used in the OpenAI disclosure, as well as comments by Eric Schmidt, seem to all point that this was a disagreement over intentions behind the use of AI tools, rather than an over-reach of power, monetary conflict of interest, or a personal scandal.

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First time I’m using this phrase without a hint of sarcasm: big if true

Reply to @PradyuPrasad, 05:58 UTC · 6 likes

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Hey I think it’s cool 😠

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Seems correct

Quoting Samuel Hammond 🦉 (@hamandcheese): Tho OpenAI is not at all characteristic of the problem. The typical nonprofit board isn't really independent, does the bare minimum of oversight or deliberation, and avoids rocking the boat at all cost. Agree or not, OpenAI's board showed genuine independence and duty to mission.

Reply to @d_feldman, 06:26 UTC · 6 likes

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Latter not an outgrowth of the former. Just a response to it

Reply to @jasoncrawford, 06:55 UTC · 3 likes

Jason Crawford (@jasoncrawford): So the thing about Sam is that he once said that when he is deciding what to do next, he waits for an opportunity he thinks will be 10x as impactful as anything he has ever done

I can't even imagine what that could be at this point

Jesus, Petrov, Martin Luther, maybe Churchill, Caesar, Mohammad, Genghis Kahn

Reply to @absurdlymax, 07:02 UTC · 2 likes

Max Alexander (@absurdlymax): I will say if asked I would server as OpenAI CEO, but I'd probably rather do something else

Same

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@OpenAI hmu

Reply to @albrgr, 08:02 UTC · 2 likes

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.@sama could be a good opportunity

Tweet, 08:06 UTC · 10 likes

Chad @sama move: “time to raise $100B and work on 1000x scaling (of cultured meat)”

Reply to @kunvar_, 08:08 UTC · 6 likes

Kunvar Thaman (@kunvar_): First letter of each word in the first line: I L Y A

(quoting @sama: i love you all. today was a weird experience in many ways. but one unexpected one is that it has been sorta like reading your own eulogy while you’re still alive. the outpouring of love is awesome. one takeaway: go tell your friends how great you think they are.)

👀

Reply to @RFishBlueFish, 08:09 UTC · 3 likes

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Eliezer hasn’t been universally cynical

Reply to @NathanB60857242, 08:53 UTC · 3 likes

Nathan Barnard (@NathanB60857242): @Kirsten3531 isn't this already how you dress

No way this cost less than $10k

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Reply to @HaydnBelfield, 09:19 UTC · 7 likes

Haydn Belfield (@HaydnBelfield): This is pure sexism

(quoting @pitdesi: I can’t figure out why some of these folks were on the board to begin with. Tasha’s claim to fame seems to be her marriage to Joseph Gordon-Levitt; Helen Toner is a director of grants at Georgetown, where she graduated from in 2021 with a masters in security studies.)

lol “graduated from georgetown with a masters in ‘21” makes her sound like me but with 1-2 years more experience

CSET bio: https://cset.georgetown.edu/staff/helen-toner/

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Reply to @littIeramblings, 09:24 UTC · 3 likes

sarah (@littIeramblings): He looks like a reverse watermelon

(Positive)

Sunday, November 19, 2023

Reply to @nickcammarata, 03:00 UTC · 3 likes

Nick (@nickcammarata): i think im antiea radicalized now

my friends treat their body like a playground (experiments with drugs, meditations, new exercises etc), cycle through dangerous sports, startups, and various ideologies. as a group nothing has hurt their wellbeing as much as ea as

:(

Reply to @casebash, 03:10 UTC · 3 likes

Casebash (@casebash): @jd_pressman Why would you think that?

95% of what EA is doing will keep on spinning regardless of how Sam Altman situation pans out.

Yeah like there is no mechanism for this lol

Reply to @frances__lorenz, 03:16 UTC · 1 like

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Also, Nick is easily 1 in a million in terms of “let explicit beliefs govern your actions without negative corporeal feedback” (I recall him mentioning he ate just cucumber and chicken for like a month bc someone told him that’s how you get abs)

Reply to @nullpointered, 03:23 UTC · 6 likes

null (@nullpointered): Candlelight vigil in Dolores Park calling for the return of Sam Altman as CEO

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I have no idea what is real anymore

Tweet, 03:40 UTC · 288 likes

Times my tl has been ~exclusively one thing:

- FTX collapse
- Wagner coup thing
- Sama fired

What am I forgetting?

Reply to @absurdlymax, 03:44 UTC · 2 likes

Max Alexander (@absurdlymax): @AaronBergman18 When Max joined twitter

Duh

Reply to @Sheikheddy, 04:04 UTC · 9 likes

Sheikh Abdur Raheem Ali (@Sheikheddy): @AaronBergman18 superconductor

Right

Reply to @AndyMasley, 04:29 UTC · 7 likes

Andy Masley (@AndyMasley): I'm old enough to remember when the TL was exclusively focused on the 2014 red wave

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Reply to @nullpointered, 04:45 UTC · 3 likes

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What

Reply to @absurdlymax, 04:46 UTC · 2 likes

Max Alexander (@absurdlymax): @AaronBergman18 @nullpointered Aaron...

Holy shit https://x.com/nullpointered/status/1726094980882776391?s=46

Reply to @absurdlymax, 04:56 UTC · 3 likes

Max Alexander (@absurdlymax): Consoling someone after getting rejected from an ea job: "there are other fish in the cea"

Banger

Reply to @RafaRuizdeLira, 16:47 UTC · 7 likes

Rafael Ruiz ⏸️🔸 (@RafaRuizdeLira): Let's do it

(quoting @xruiztru: Chile is so long that it could serve as a 'bridge' connecting Spain to Canada across the Atlantic Ocean.)

Build the bridge

Reply to @QualyThe, 16:48 UTC · 2 likes

Qualy the lightbulb (@QualyThe): being vegan is tough 😤, sometimes the cravings get the better of me

Lmao

Reply to @iamaheron_, 16:50 UTC · 2 likes

sniper (heron) (@iamaheron_): just found out one of my friends just puts all his dirty clothes in a big pile next to the bed

he’s 28

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Based

Reply, 17:26 UTC · 3 likes

He didn’t answer :(

Reply to @nickcammarata, 17:28 UTC · 22 likes

Nick (@nickcammarata): how many social events (hangouts, parties, walks, etc) with people do you have per week on avg

if you go on a walk with your partner every day that counts as one, but if you go to a fifty person party that also counts as one

Lmao at these answer buckets. Mine would have been:

0
1
2
3+

Reply to @nickcammarata, 17:28 UTC · 3 likes

Nick (@nickcammarata): realizing I may be wildly more extroverted than I thought, thought most people had a few hangouts and 3-6 phone catch ups a day

What

Tweet, 18:01 UTC · 5 likes

Listening to the Sounds of my Childhood (2000-2014ish music) and turns out Katy Perry said “this a hickey or a bruise?” not “there’s a hippie on the roof” which tbh would have been a lot cooler

Tweet, 18:54 UTC · 6 likes

It has come to my attention that I have not yet posted this on twitter

Could be a good intermission from all the Very Online Drama you can’t actually do anything about https://youtu.be/qR4NTD2BKmI?si=LCfHUtfklB_QCB1q

Tweet, 19:26 UTC · 16 likes

Endorse endorse endorse endorse. Extremely important post. https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/btTeBHKGkmRyD5sFK/open-phil-should-allocate-most-neartermist-funding-to-animal

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Reply, 19:28 UTC · 1 like

Fuck why am I so slow at writing

Reply to @AndyMasley, 19:34 UTC · 4 likes

Andy Masley (@AndyMasley): @AaronBergman18 Try this site where you have to write consistently for 5 minutes or it all disappears https://www.squibler.io/dangerous-writing-prompt-app/write?limit=5&type=minutes

andy r u trying to give me a heart attack

Tweet, 20:32 UTC · 36 likes

Seeing some “EA has been bad for me” takes by people I like and respect (@nickcammarata, @ohabryka) which at first I was pretty confused by but now maybe understand…

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I’ve made a pretty deliberate decision over the last year or so *not* to move (or aspire to move) to Berkeley/SF despite knowing a lot of people there and generally liking the nerdy rat/EA culture

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There are a bunch of factors, but the biggest and most salient single one has just been that I think it would be bad for my personal happiness

Not for any dark or nefarious reason

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- just because being physically around and interacting a lot (like regularly every day rather than say weekly+online) with other EAs activates my “status/social-ometer brain” like nothing else

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But if I was already living there/had a bunch of reasons to stay, I can totally see how encountering EA per se would seem like *the* causal factor in feeling guilty or stressed or anxious etc

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All this is to say that I think social and therefore geographical context is a *huge* factor in determining how EA’s impact as a philosophy or ideology - in both direction and size

Reply to @littIeramblings, 20:33 UTC · 4 likes

sarah (@littIeramblings): question: do I have any UK-based mutuals who want to get coffee some time? I need more friends that get the AI situation so I don’t always feel like the doomiest in the room

(helps if you’re vaguely near Sheffield but I’m also in London sometimes)

DM me!

The twitter to irl friends pipeline is so based

Reply to @ohabryka, 20:46 UTC · 5 likes

Oliver Habryka (@ohabryka): To be clear, I think EA was mostly bad for me because it caused me to do harmful things to the world. I also think some parts of it were emotionally stressful, but that's not where most of my affect comes from.

Ah ok thanks for clarifying

I think I generally read “for me” as implying purely internalized effect

Reply to his own earlier tweet, 20:47 UTC · 13 likes

Aaron Bergman, November 19, 2023: All this is to say that I think social and therefore geographical context is a *huge* factor in determining how EA’s impact as a philosophy or ideology - in…

Correction:

Reply to @ohabryka, 20:53 UTC · 7 likes

Oliver Habryka (@ohabryka): I mean, I think it corrupted my moral compass and made me a worse person morally. It caused me to be more adversarial to the world and less honest and open than I otherwise would have been.

Damn

Tweet, 22:42 UTC · 117 likes

EA still good imo

Reply to @FabrykaAI, 22:58 UTC · 12 likes

Fabryka AI (@FabrykaAI): Still SBF adjacent. It was good when it was malaria nets, now it’s decel ideology and having fake jobs at „think centre” or other stuff

I disagree on all the points but the decel ideology thing is just flatly wrong

In literally every other domain (besides I think specific subsections of bio) EA is, to generalize, super pro technology+economic growth+R&D

Monday, November 20, 2023

Reply to @default_friend, 03:14 UTC · 3 likes

Katherine Dee 🐬/acc (@default_friend): Do you guys like libertarians or not ??? Is it for "dumbasses" or not ??? ... the TL is giving a lot of mixed signals tn... I'll stop there but not the only place I'm noticing these inconsistencies ...

Ik this is satire but I think this thought process is indeed how a non trivial proportion of people pick their political ideology

Reply to @eshear, 09:39 UTC · 3 likes

Emmett Shear (@eshear): Today I got a call inviting me to consider a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity: to become the interim CEO of @OpenAI. After consulting with my family and reflecting on it for just a few hours, I accepted. I had recently resigned from my role as CEO of Twitch due to the birth of my now 9 month old son. Spending time with him has been every bit as rewarding as I thought it would be, and I was happily avoiding full time employment. I took this job because I believe that OpenAI is one of the most important companies currently in existence. When the board shared the situation and asked me to take the role, I did not make the decision lightly. Ultimately I felt that I had a duty to help if I could.

I have spent today drinking from the firehose as much as possible, speaking with the board, a small number of major partners, and listening to employees. Our partnership with Microsoft remains strong, and my priority in the coming weeks will be to make sure we continue to serve all our customers well. OpenAI employees are extremely impressive, as you might have guessed, and mission-driven in the extreme. And it’s clear that the process and communications around Sam’s removal has been handled very badly, which has seriously damaged our trust.

I have a three point plan for the next 30 days:
- Hire an independent investigator to dig into the entire process leading up to this point and generate a full report.
- Continue to speak to as many of our employees, partners, investors, and customers as possible, take good notes, and share the key takeaways.
- Reform the management and leadership team in light of recent departures into an effective force to drive results for our customers.

Depending on the results everything we learn from these, I will drive changes in the organization — up to and including pushing strongly for significant governance changes if necessary. I will be rolling these out as they become clear over the 30 day period. OpenAI’s stability and success are too important to allow turmoil to disrupt them like this. I will endeavor to address the key concerns as well, although in many cases I believe it may take longer than a month to achieve true progress.

I have nothing but respect for what Sam and the entire OpenAI team have built. It’s not just an incredible research project and software product, but an incredible company. I’m here because I know that, and I want to do everything in my power to protect it and grow it further.

It's now 1am and I'll pick this up tomorrow.

PS: I am posting this here both because I think it’s in the general public interest to know in this case, but please don’t expect all future internal comms to come through a public channel.

PPS: Before I took the job, I checked on the reasoning behind the change. The board did *not* remove Sam over any specific disagreement on safety, their reasoning was completely different from that. I'm not crazy enough to take this job without board support for commercializing our awesome models.

What

Reply to @peterwildeford, 09:43 UTC · 4 likes

Peter Wildeford🇺🇸🚀 (@peterwildeford): What are the best things worth subscribing to that are more than worth the money/cost?

Spotify, ChatGPT+

Reply to @robertwiblin, 10:14 UTC · 40 likes

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The future

Reply to @QualyThe, 11:45 UTC · 3 likes

Qualy the lightbulb (@QualyThe): you know you, George, and Sam Altman all kind of look the same. bit sus

Occams razor says they’re both @SpacedOutMatt

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Reply to @Kirsten3531, 13:22 UTC · 6 likes

Kirsten (@Kirsten3531): If my baby only has sweet potato (with lots of olive oil) and banana for lunch, plus his formula, is he gonna die?

Asking because I think this is the new normal

Yes but not for any reason related to the food

Reply to @SpacedOutMatt, 13:26 UTC · 2 likes

Matt 🔸 (@SpacedOutMatt): @AaronBergman18 @Kirsten3531 Not if we find a way to reverse entropy

True, who’s working on this

Reply to @inerati, 13:42 UTC · 31 likes

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while(x==y){eval(call(“func1()\\nfunc2()”))}

Reply to @benthamite_, 13:54 UTC · 2 likes

benthamite🔸 (@benthamite_): YES I KNOW THAT HE'S MY EX BUT CAN'T TWO PEOPLE RECONNECT I ONLY SEE HIM AS A FRIEND i tripped and fell into his corporate restructuring

(quoting @verge: Breaking: OpenAI board in discussions with Sam Altman to return as CEO https://trib.al/DTxl5tC)

Banger

Tweet, 15:45 UTC · 2 likes

Might do an impromptu solo Pigeon Hour (podcast episode) recorded while I pack for smth

Plz comment questions/things you’d be interested in hearing me comment on/etc

Reply to @alt_truistic, 18:48 UTC · 2 likes

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Idk what I’m talking about really but I’ve heard the “feels like X if you have adhd, like Y if you don’t” thing is super intuitive but basically fake

Tuesday, November 21, 2023

Reply to @ryancbriggs, 01:49 UTC · 2 likes

Ryan Briggs (@ryancbriggs):

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Banger

Reply to @christineist, 04:59 UTC · 2 likes

christine (@christineist): hi any more women want to join my dating app? :)

Fr u should advertise on i guess instagram(?)

Reply to @arabelladevine, 05:11 UTC · 3 likes

arabella ※ (@arabelladevine): let a golden age of voice tweets commence

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Too bad you can’t do voice replies

But yeah, this is why podcasts were one of the best media for dialogue - at least before cheap+good AI transcription (but even with that I don’t think the effect totally disappears)

Reply to @littIeramblings, 09:02 UTC · 2 likes

sarah (@littIeramblings): there are few things in this world that would make me momentarily consider going full on e/acc, but trying to get an in-person doctor’s appointment is one of them

Tweet, 14:25 UTC · 11 likes

Tempted to sign up for this absolute rager

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Reply to @moultano, 14:30 UTC

Ryan Moulton (@moultano): No caffeine after lunch.

👎

Quote tweet, 15:00 UTC · 7 likes

Retvrn

Quoting Franklin King MD (@KingFranklinIV): Wow. From 1965

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Tweet, 15:10 UTC · 78 likes

Fuck modesty norms

EtG people (and anyone) post donation info (amount donated this year or screenshots or graphs or whatever) below for well-deserved internet points

Reply to @uberstuber, 15:15 UTC · 3 likes

James Stuber 🌱🌿🌳🍂 (@uberstuber): are you introverted or is squashing your wants exhausting?

Introvert

Quote tweet, 15:29 UTC · 7 likes

Interesting take

Quoting Holly ⏸️ Elmore (@ilex_ulmus): I'm curious now how everyone would have reacted if someone had been able to remove SBF from power at FTX *before it was too late to stop the fraud*, w/o being able to share why, only able to vaguely say they were concerned about his integrity.

Might have looked a lot like this.

Reply to @SpacedOutMatt, 16:52 UTC · 4 likes

Matt 🔸 (@SpacedOutMatt): @AaronBergman18 I like how exactly no one is taking you up on the opportunity

Poast 👀 graf 📈

Tweet, 19:29 UTC · 18 likes

.@RethinkPriors needs money, and I currently think they're the single best charity to donate to all things considered

https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/cMcEBSNiy4meDrmuE/

Thread, continued, 19:29 UTC · 7 likes

Accurate virtue signaling cascade, commence ($100 is my semi-arbitrary self-imposed limit for spending money on a whim, maybe/hopefully more to come)

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Reply to his own earlier tweet, 19:44 UTC · 13 likes

Aaron Bergman, November 21, 2023: Fuck modesty norms EtG people (and anyone) post donation info (amount donated this year or screenshots or graphs or whatever) below for well-deserved internet…

Nobody has ever donated more than $100, prove me wrong

Reply to @RafaRuizdeLira, 20:18 UTC · 3 likes

Rafael Ruiz ⏸️🔸 (@RafaRuizdeLira): I'm hoping my income changes soon so that I can give way more :)

Same lol

Also uh I recommend prioritizing some amount of savings before any donation

Reply to @Jtfetsch, 20:58 UTC · 3 likes

Joe Fetsch 🔍⏸ (@Jtfetsch): @AaronBergman18 I'll bite on this. Someone come and ratio me

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Nice

Tweet, 22:12 UTC · 14 likes

Idk who needs to hear this (if you’re following me and haven’t decided against it via some legit process, probably you) but more EAs should be trying to make at least tens of millions of dollars to (mostly) give away

Reply to @gcolbourn, 22:14 UTC · 9 likes

Greg ⏹️ Colbourn (@gcolbourn): Not receipts I know, but most of these were just sent direct as bank transfers (no tax deductibility as to individuals/early stage projects).

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New cause area tutor Greg on how to make nicer looking spreadsheets (lol fr though awesome, love to see it)

Reply to his own earlier tweet, 22:27 UTC · 3 likes

Aaron Bergman, November 21, 2023: Nobody has ever donated more than $100, prove me wrong

Forgot about this lol. Erring on the safe side with redaction - it’s really nothing super interesting or spicy. Just a one-off thing I had local+kinda illegible knowledge of

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Reply to @FrostedSapling, 23:31 UTC · 2 likes

Ivan 🔸 (@FrostedSapling): Something wonky is happening with that total pledged number but donation to date seems accurate

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Based

Wednesday, November 22, 2023

Reply to @hlntnr, 06:42 UTC · 9 likes

Helen Toner (@hlntnr): And now, we all get some sleep😴

(quoting @OpenAI: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam Altman to return to OpenAI as CEO with a new initial board of Bret Taylor (Chair), Larry Summers, and Adam D'Angelo. We are collaborating to figure out the details. Thank you so much for your patience through this.)

If I ever need a board of directors for smth I’ll hit u up, Godspeed 🫡

Tweet, 06:50 UTC · 131 likes

I’m putting together a team

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Reply to @benkitia, 06:54 UTC · 3 likes

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True, duh

Reply, 13:52 UTC · 3 likes

Based

Quote tweet, 17:32 UTC · 2 likes

New pdf just dropped 👀

Quoting Jeff Sebo (@jeffrsebo): New paper on AI welfare!

“Intersubstrate Welfare Comparisons: Important, Difficult, Potentially Tractable,” co-authored by @bobfisc (lead of the moral weight project at @RethinkPriors) is now available open access at Utilitas.

Check it out!

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/utilitas/article/intersubstrate-welfare-comparisons-important-difficult-and-potentially-tractable/15D03CBD87325B517B112BFED0F02590

Quote tweet, 17:50 UTC · 52 likes

Timelines are short. Only took 4 days

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Quoting zzDANIEL_ETH (@daniel_271828): [my parents, to me, probably in a week or so] “so Daniel, you’re into AI - did you hear about the news regarding OpenAI?”

Reply to @catehall, 18:39 UTC · 5 likes

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🌶️🌶️🌶️

Reply to @davidmanheim, 18:49 UTC · 2 likes

David Manheim (@davidmanheim): @AaronBergman18 My mom is really on the ball on this stuff - she already asked me, and even had a take about it, on Monday:
(cc: @daniel_271828)

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Elite

Reply, 18:55 UTC · 1 like

U have a turkey and a blind dog?? That’s some serious commitment lmao

Reply to @StatsLime, 18:56 UTC · 2 likes

Max ⏸️ Limelihood 🔸🔸🔸 (@StatsLime): @yashkaf normiepilled answer: men are hornier

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Yeah correct answer lol

Reply to @NoahTopper, 19:57 UTC · 2 likes

Quinoah 🔍⏸️ (@NoahTopper): @AaronBergman18

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I too would like the skinny

Reply to @JMannhart, 19:58 UTC · 3 likes

Jonathan Mannhart 🔎 (@JMannhart): @AaronBergman18 So, Aaron, what do you think about the whole OpenAl-Altman fiasco?

The takes are slow cooking in my brain rn

Reply to @uberstuber, 21:07 UTC · 1 like

James Stuber 🌱🌿🌳🍂 (@uberstuber): my parents’ new oven just gobbled at them instead of beeping i hate the future

Haha device go quack (my ring tone)

Reply to @ftlsid, 21:15 UTC · 4 likes

ftlsid (@ftlsid): pondering: how do you make progress and remain motivated on a ambitious solo project that 1) is very difficult 2) takes years?

Big update on this for me over the last 2 years. My best answer is:

Get a manager (can just be a friend who agrees to take on that role and zoom twice a week) because going true solo is just extremely hard (in terms of everything - prioritization, object level issues, whatever)

Reply to @veggiebat_, 22:11 UTC · 2 likes

ꙮ un ami ⚭ (@veggiebat_): what is your quick affirmative of choice ? mine are “roger/roger that” and “heard”

🫡

Tweet, 22:48 UTC · 7 likes

My family will “be ready in 5 minutes” as of 5:41 pm. At what time will we all be physically outside of the house (no trick questions here tbc)?

Thread, continued, 22:52 UTC · 2 likes

In other units, how many laps around the block will I make it before we leave?

I’m at 1.5 rn and my low effort guesstimate is .25 miles total for a loop

Reply to @Aizazadi_, 22:52 UTC · 2 likes

Aizazadi (@Aizazadi_): @AaronBergman18 Wtf need followup

Dw I will be updating the thread

Reply to his own earlier tweet, 22:56 UTC · 5 likes

Aaron Bergman, November 22, 2023: In other units, how many laps around the block will I make it before we leave? I’m at 1.5 rn and my low effort guesstimate is .25 miles total for a loop

Update: sister called at 5:55 to inform me that “we’re actually leaving”

Thread, continued, 22:58 UTC · 4 likes

This is a bit like SBF tweeting smth along the lines of “everything’s fine” at peak FTX collapse drama

Yes directionally it’s evidence but it’s awfully weak

Thread, continued, 23:17 UTC · 14 likes

🚨🚨🚨MARKET RESOLVED 🚨🚨🚨

Official resolution time 6:09 pm

Thread, continued, 23:18 UTC · 3 likes

I only made it 2 full trips around the block :(

Thursday, November 23, 2023

Reply to @daniel_271828, 04:20 UTC · 2 likes

zzDANIEL_ETH (@daniel_271828): Do it. Underrated way to keep up with friends who don’t live nearby

Ya. Now that I think about it a cost of messenger, twitter DM etc is not getting people’s numbers for this

Reply to @tszzl, 13:18 UTC · 15 likes

roon (@tszzl): not even a respectable take

Why?

Reply to @littIeramblings, 13:58 UTC · 5 likes

sarah (@littIeramblings): good q

Thx I thought of it myself

Reply to @alt_truistic, 22:33 UTC · 1 like

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No, pure dextroamphetamine is better. Adderall is 75% that and 25% levoamphetamine which is generally less effective and more side effect causing

Reply to @JesseTayRiver, 22:33 UTC · 3 likes

Jesse Smith (@JesseTayRiver): My introverted dog thinks it's time for us to head home from Thanksgiving dinner

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He just like me fr

Reply to @absurdlymax, 23:38 UTC · 2 likes

Max Alexander (@absurdlymax): @AaronBergman18 @JesseTayRiver Was going to tag you

@AaronBergman18

Friday, November 24, 2023

Reply to @besttrousers, 00:20 UTC · 3 likes

Matt Darling 🌐🏗️ (@besttrousers): @PradyuPrasad You have a meal with your extended family. It's nice.

Setting aside the turkey thing it’s the most wholesome secular holiday

Reply to @alt_truistic, 01:10 UTC · 1 like

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Tiny tweak in formula -> patent -> have a brand -> market -> “adderall” becomes synonymous with adhd meds -> 💰

Reply, 19:36 UTC · 1 like

No, as long as we don’t take other animals with us and make it habitable for them

Reply, 19:41 UTC · 1 like

Uh the last .1 to 5 years before dieing rarely look like this

Quote tweet, 20:13 UTC · 23 likes

Inject it into my veins

There are good critiques of EA!! But they (afaict literally exclusively) come from people who accept the project on its own terms

Quoting Richard Y. Chappell🔸 (@RYChappell): There's nothing EAs hate more than suggesting that their critics are obviously wrong.

Reply to @EAheadlines, 20:15 UTC · 3 likes

EA Lifestyles (@EAheadlines): have you ever wished you could see a list of some highly effective charities that address gender-based issues facing women and girls? maybe you thought no one in ea worries about stuff like that? guess again! there's a whole list!! https://www.thelifeyoucansave.org.au/cause-funds/help-women-girls-fund/

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My brain: don’t say the take don’t say the take don’t say the take

Me: this is pretty directly antithetical to the (IMO correct) principle of non-arbitrariness in moral patienthood…

Thread, continued, 20:16 UTC · 4 likes

There for sure may be great charities than work exclusively on these issues, but there’s no good moral reason to limit one’s focus to these ex ante

Reply to @emilychangtv, 20:26 UTC · 3 likes

Emily Chang (@emilychangtv): One of the biggest tasks ahead for OpenAI is building a new board - one that includes women:

The names of several women were floated including @laurenepowell and @marissamayer but deemed too close to @sama. @CondoleezzaRice also considered but dismissed.

We’re told the new board *will* include women but that’s just step one — roundup by @tsgiles @shiringhaffary @ashleevance

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-22/altman-returns-to-openai-after-firing-showed-rifts-left-unhealed

Obvious correct choices: @ajeya_cotra, @KelseyTuoc and @alyssamvance. Yes, all of them

Reply to @kitten_beloved, 20:31 UTC · 4 likes

Kitten 🐈 (@kitten_beloved): This writing style is an eerily accurate midwit indicator, a dumb person's idea of how smart people communicate

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Eh its also how a smart person might write if it seems important to them to signal being at least as smart as some lower bound

Reply to @ruth_hook_, 23:02 UTC · 4 likes

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Expected values or Effective Venture’s

Quote tweet, 23:13 UTC · 33 likes

Will MacAskill looking at all the good critiques of EA (as a single thing), from the outside, that a decade of practically begging for criticism (and at one point paying for it [rip]) has brought

Alone Dessert GIF (gif, plays on X)

Quoting Agus 🔸 (@austinc3301): this is so funny to me because EA might be one of the few social movements which will actually give you a full blown policy proposal before even complaining about a problem on twitter

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Thread, continued, 23:17 UTC · 3 likes

Endogenous criticism is live and well though. For example, hundreds of millions of dollars are being misallocated

Thread, continued, 23:19 UTC · 1 like

Also all the half plausible wholesale critiques I can think of come from the direction opposite of which they always come

Like maybe the s-risk people are directionally but insufficiently right and that should be the sole cause area

Saturday, November 25, 2023

Reply to @Laura_k_Duffy, 00:00 UTC · 4 likes

Laura Muresianu 🌐🔸🇺🇸 (@Laura_k_Duffy): I’m excited to announce that, on Monday, I’ll be joining @ppi’s Center for Funding America’s Future as a policy analyst!

In this job, I’ll be helping to promote tax and spending policies that are inclusive, pro-growth, and fiscally responsible. I’m so looking forward to it!

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Congrats, SPEAKER B!!

Tweet, 00:10 UTC · 7 likes

New 2 x 2, seems very TPOT-y:

Thinking about feelings vs just feeling them

and

Leaning into them vs “fake it till you make it” behaviorally

Reply to his own earlier tweet, 00:23 UTC · 4 likes

Aaron Bergman, November 24, 2023: Also all the half plausible wholesale critiques I can think of come from the direction opposite of which they always come Like maybe the s-risk people are…

Ugh, brain compulsively generating plausible counterexamples (its a terminal condition called autocontrarianism)

1. Maybe starting OpenAI was net bad even ex ante and EA’s effect is dominated by that one decision

2. This tweet

Reply to @catehall, 01:09 UTC · 6 likes

Cate Hall 🔸 (@catehall): There’s something uniquely upsetting to me about seeing someone call other humans NPCs, and once I’ve seen someone do it it’s almost impossible for me to view them with respect ever again.

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I had this take at first (and tbc I don’t use it bc ik others see it like this) but think it’s actually just a rude sounding term for a useful and neutral concept

Reply to @exdiegesis, 01:09 UTC · 2 likes

Hope (@exdiegesis): goshdarnit! i'd managed to stay ignorant of what "TPOT" meant up until now, but this gives me a clue. also, cool 2x2. @niplav_site, look!

It took me way too long lmao. Do u want to know?

Quote tweet, 01:32 UTC · 9 likes

Another possibility I learned recently is that they’ll read 2 NYT articles and then be the ones trying to do the explaining (to other, less informed boomers)!

Quoting Qualy the lightbulb (@QualyThe): *trying to explain AI risk to a boomer* so you know how video killed the radio star?

Thread, continued, 01:32 UTC · 4 likes

Tbc said boomer, to his credit, didn’t get much wrong - just like forced ideas into convoluted shapes to fit into familiar buckets (eg capitalism vs charity, treating espoused ideologies as what really matters/a good proxy for revealed preferences and behavior)

Reply to @catehall, 01:39 UTC · 23 likes

Cate Hall 🔸 (@catehall): What is the useful and neutral concept you think is being communicated?

Making life decisions (of any size) according to norms and incentives of society without ever seriously considering otherwise

Tbc I think it’s a spectrum, tho idk the shape of the distribution

Reply to @Blueyatagarasu, 02:39 UTC · 5 likes

Mario Cannistrà (@Blueyatagarasu): The more neutral term might be "normie". I think NPC means pretty much the same thing, but with a (stronger?) negative connotation.

Nah they seem like distinct concepts to me (esp in the sense that there are non-agentic ways to be weird)

Tweet, 03:02 UTC · 20 likes

Pretty surprised to hear Luisa Rodriguez and @jeffrsebo both describe the repugnant conclusion as filling them with “dread”

I just…don’t have that intuition at all??? And it’s not that points like this don’t affect me much in general

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Thread, continued, 03:02 UTC · 10 likes

Like a quadrillion mildly happy lizards > @nickcammarata ? Yeah duh (sorry nick)

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Repugnant conclusion

Thread, continued, 03:02 UTC · 7 likes

FWIW the Very Repugnant Conclusion I reject but would find repugnant

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Reply to @ad0rnai, 03:05 UTC · 2 likes

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Lah-ooh-dah-dee-tay

Reply to @exdiegesis, 03:14 UTC · 2 likes

Hope (@exdiegesis): it should indeed ring alarm-bells, and i suspect Aaron has already heard and incorporated those into his view. alarm-bells are usefwl for prompting reflection, but shouldn't have the final say.

Also like there is basically no bar to identifying as an EA/being “inside” rather than outside and it is intentionally flexible on object level things

so in general, good and very broad critiques have already been accounted for and corrected…

Thread, continued, 03:18 UTC · 1 like

It’s not like saying “no outsider has a good critique of Mexico/Harvard/Walmart/Centre for Effective Altruism [a specific organization]” because for these things an “outsider” doesn’t get admitted/hired/nationalized basically just by broadly supporting the thing

Reply to @AndyMasley, 03:20 UTC · 2 likes

Andy Masley (@AndyMasley): It seems like it implies that we should in specific situations always prefer worlds without love or friendship or other complex goods that I think of as being very nice

Yes I agree and just find this like moderately disappointing at worst

Reply to @AndyMasley, 03:20 UTC · 4 likes

Andy Masley (@AndyMasley): For me it's a sign that we don't actually know much about trade-offs beyond certain obvious cases. I don't think I'd prefer to go through a quintillion vaguely happy lizard lives at the cost of not being in love for a day.

I would choose the lizards

Quote tweet, 03:32 UTC · 3 likes

Why it’s not especially sus or implausible that there are no good “outside” critiques of EA as a whole from

Quoting Aaron Bergman 🔍 (@AaronBergman18): @exdiegesis @fif_sand It’s not like saying “no outsider has a good critique of Mexico/Harvard/Walmart/Centre for Effective Altruism [a specific organization]” because for these things an “outsider” doesn’t get admitted/hired/nationalized basically just by broadly supporting the thing

Reply to @littIeramblings, 03:43 UTC · 1 like

sarah (@littIeramblings): Again and again I keep finding out that I didn’t need to be trying as hard as I thought

Hmm not necessarily disagreeing, but my version would be:

take important things/goals really seriously (which some ppl might interpret as “trying hard”) but only very rarely is using willpower to endure suffering the right way to go about this”

Reply, 03:47 UTC · 1 like

I agree the single axis premise is unjustified but disagree in that think these things do indeed lie on a trade-offable axis

Reply to @AndyMasley, 03:49 UTC · 3 likes

Andy Masley (@AndyMasley): I'm willing to say both that I'd rather be a vaguely happy lizard than not exist but also that I'd rather be in love for a day and then not exist for a quintillion years than be a series of vaguely happy lizards for a quintillion years. Implies there might not be a single axis?

I think ur wrong (not in which choice you’d make, but that it would be the right choice *for* you) probably because scope neglect

Maybe

Reply, 03:56 UTC · 1 like

https://www.aaronbergman.net/p/my-case-for-suffering-leaning-ethics

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Reply to @edardaman, 05:11 UTC · 5 likes

Emily Dardaman (@edardaman): When is the Mexico/Harvard/Walmart Centre for Effective Altruism opening

.@Walmart @mexico @Harvard @EffectvAltruism I am putting together a team

Thread, continued, 05:15 UTC · 1 like

Let’s add Chile @GobiernodeChile bc for strange reasons a second-order mutual (mutual of a mutual) is its president

Reply to @frances__lorenz, 17:51 UTC · 2 likes

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~everyone following you probably is bc it’s closely tied to intelligence I think

Reply to @UsingLyft, 18:03 UTC · 3 likes

Pay Roll Manager Here (@UsingLyft): Who’s the first author you recall saying something so complicated you found yourself mazed for a second and having to read what they said over again

I remember reading Dennet at maybe 12 or 14 and thinking “this guy is just way smarter than me”

Reply to @Manuel_do_rio, 18:14 UTC · 2 likes

Manuel del Río Rodríguez ⏸️ (@Manuel_do_rio): @thebestestpie @AaronBergman18 @jeffrsebo We'll have to agree to disagree. I don't think lives 'barely worth living' are worth it. Admittedly, this is a qualitative and discrete cut.

They’re literally defined that way - Imagine an existence getting better and better until you think it’s worth living, and those are the barely worth living ones we’re referring to!

Sunday, November 26, 2023

Reply to @alexeyguzey, 03:06 UTC · 64 likes

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No he’s not. He was wrong about another persons character. That doesn’t make him a fraud

Quote tweet, 03:08 UTC · 17 likes

Looks like I’ll have to keep tapping the sign

Quoting Aaron Bergman 🔍 (@AaronBergman18): - 100% good faith, mislead by SBF for non-damning reasons, trying in earnest to correct things and update appropriately, legit trying hard to do good

Reply, 04:51 UTC · 23 likes

Often getting functionally paid in social/cultural capital aka status

I think Ezra Klein made the point that an assistant English prof making $35k is in an important sense “higher class” than a self employed exterminator making $100k

Reply to @alexeyguzey, 04:57 UTC · 50 likes

Alexey Guzey (@alexeyguzey): you're a true believer aaron. very admirable. never change. bookmark this tweet to check it in 10 years

We will see!

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Reply to @BowTieOrangeGuy, 05:22 UTC · 3 likes

Mr Bow Tie (@BowTieOrangeGuy): okay hear me out

guy combinator, aka gc

lemur to poaster in 6 months, seed followers, do 100 things, office hours with big accounts

(quoting @gptbrooke: okay but hear me out vibecamp ventures, aka vc vc)

I will be a seed follower for anyone who replies to this (subject to my discretion, arbitrary terms and conditions apply)

Reply to @SpacedOutMatt, 19:12 UTC · 2 likes

Matt 🔸 (@SpacedOutMatt): Don’t @ me about how chickens don’t actually live this long, the separateness of persons is fake

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Reply to @littIeramblings, 19:14 UTC · 2 likes

sarah (@littIeramblings): like I know there are all these cool people, probably in my immediate vicinity, that I could have fun chats and trade ideas and have a generally nice time with but how do I *find* them

Keep cyberbullying @frances__lorenz until u hang out. I am friend shipping u guys

Tweet, 19:23 UTC · 4 likes

Picked something up at thanksgiving, slept 20ish hours

Can someone give me a summary of world and twitter events in that time frame

Tweet, 19:31 UTC · 16 likes

Extroverts be like “my friend’s aunt just met her niece’s friend’s (my) friend’s friend and figured out their mutual connection to me at an NFL game. They sent me a selfie”

Reply to @frances__lorenz, 19:36 UTC · 7 likes

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Hair cut (thx to Nico in New Jersey), pigeons, moved out finally

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Reply to @frances__lorenz, 21:30 UTC · 3 likes

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😎

Monday, November 27, 2023

Reply to @pearl_please, 00:49 UTC · 2 likes

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What question do u hope somebody asks?

Reply to @sam_atis, 00:52 UTC · 5 likes

Sam Glover (@sam_atis): How should the EA Forum handle questions like these? It’s a sincere question from someone who is genuinely interested in EA and wants to do good. But it’s also low effort and it’s pretty obvious that interventions to prevent school shootings won’t be particularly cost-effective.

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I don’t think anything specific needs to happen

Reply to @SpacedOutMatt, 01:24 UTC · 2 likes

Matt 🔸 (@SpacedOutMatt): 500 followers celebration! I made a me starter pack

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Superhuman levels of self awareness. 100% accurate (afaict - curious to hear LA’s take)

Reply to @StatsLime, 01:30 UTC · 2 likes

Max ⏸️ Limelihood 🔸🔸🔸 (@StatsLime): @0xmaddie_ Which prince? Like, of Saudi Arabia or?

lol https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_(musician)

Reply to @focusfronting, 01:48 UTC · 1 like

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Chair = horse

Quote tweet, 02:40 UTC · 16 likes

V1.0, courtesy of @SpacedOutMatt himself

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Quoting Matt 🔸 (@SpacedOutMatt): 500 followers celebration! I made a me starter pack

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Reply to @vivian_belenky, 02:40 UTC · 2 likes

viv 🔸 (@vivian_belenky): Read the word "brisk" just now and started wondering what exactly b-risk was

Real

Reply to @girllbossing, 04:02 UTC · 1 like

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Listen to Juice Wrld, walk, gc, tweet

Quote tweet, 05:11 UTC · 38 likes

I think this could have been so but I look around and…don’t see people actually being ~totalized~

In fact I think EA has made my life better and this is pretty sus. Like it’s not supposed to do that lol

Quoting roon (@tszzl): 1. EA is a dangerous totalizing ideology
2. I love dangerous totalizing ideologies

Reply to @jvboid, 05:40 UTC · 2 likes

Jacob (@jvboid): this is the oldest ai i designed i think i was 11

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Damn

Reply to @jvboid, 05:40 UTC · 3 likes

Jacob (@jvboid): this is the oldest ai i designed i think i was 11

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@sama

Reply to @ConnorTabarrok, 06:45 UTC · 3 likes

Connor J. Tabarrok 🏗🚀🌏 (@ConnorTabarrok): Where are all the EA critiques of EA?

Oh boy do I wanna make this meme

Reply to his own earlier tweet, 07:16 UTC · 4 likes

Aaron Bergman, November 27, 2023: I think this could have been so but I look around and…don’t see people actually being ~totalized~ In fact I think EA has made my life better and this is pretty…

Tbf I guess SBF is the best counterexample

Reply to @utopiannotions, 07:21 UTC · 6 likes

Conor M (@utopiannotions): Here’s your reminder to start lifting weights. You’re going to feel good and look good. Your clothes will fit you better. Aching pains from a sedentary lifestyle will disappear. Your bones will get stronger. You will sleep like a baby. You will feel more at ease in the world.

👀

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Reply to @Aella_Girl, 07:51 UTC · 10 likes

Aella (@Aella_Girl): Asked [redacted] "what's ur metric for if someone is a close friend" and he said "How many people would you feel comfortable if they had a video of you fucking and then killing a dog"
So uhh by this metric how many close friends do you have?

Wait is the video supposed to be real or fake?

Tweet, 08:02 UTC · 12 likes

Random thread of ea critiques I think are basically true (will update as I think of stuff)

- not enough animal welfare funding relative to human global health

Thread, continued, 08:02 UTC · 4 likes

- not sufficiently appreciative of severe suffering

- sorta rephrasing^: doesn’t take log scales of pleasure and pain seriously

Thread, continued, 08:02 UTC · 3 likes

- inspired SBF. I think nothing went wrong ex ante (ie the earning to give + taking utilitarianism seriously meme was not bad to spread bc it could inspire someone like this) but still, counts as a strike against

Thread, continued, 08:02 UTC · 2 likes

- EA- and adjacent animal welfare movement insufficiently truth seeking (ik @acesounderglass made this point, too lazy to dig up links for everything rn)

Thread, continued, 08:03 UTC · 5 likes

- sometimes naive understandings of utilitarianism (ie as pertaining to “offsetability”)

- too enthusiastically supportive of bad criticism

Reply to @personofswag, 08:51 UTC · 4 likes

adam (6’4) 🇺🇸 (@personofswag): "npm install" and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

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1. Try pip install
2. Try brew install
3. Try npm install
4. Ask @austinc3301 for help

Reply to @daltonc, 09:03 UTC · 1 like

Dalton Caldwell (@daltonc): I wonder what % of people know that the way to fix a lot of devices is to reboot them, but have no mental model for *why* this works.

I mean I have an implicit folk mental model and some guesses I guess but basically me

Tweet, 10:22 UTC · 16 likes

Forgot to post that the EAGx Boston talks are live, with video on Spotify!

Featuring our (EA Twitter’s) very own @Laura_k_Duffy @frances__lorenz and @LizkaVaintrob

https://open.spotify.com/show/0lHqS3M08p1jGvBkRIVoFa?si=naCjXWaoT6qobIrUwlflHA

Reply to @TobiasJolly, 10:23 UTC · 11 likes

Toby Jolly (@TobiasJolly): "Create an image of a twitter user who has just posted a funny and clever tweet and is now feeling smug about it"

"now more smug"

"now even more smug"

"now vastly vastly more smug"

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(quoting @venturetwins: Obsessed with the new “make it more” trend on ChatGPT. You generate an image of something, and then keep asking for it to be MORE. For example - spicy ramen getting progressively spicier 🔥 (from u/dulipat))

Me fr whenever smth gets 50 likes

Reply to @dylanmatt, 17:58 UTC · 3 likes

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I’ll do it for $71k

Reply to @pearl_please, 19:26 UTC · 3 likes

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This but the opposite??? Like it’s no coincidence there are disproportionately journalists and academics on here

Reply to @absurdlymax, 19:34 UTC · 2 likes

Max Alexander (@absurdlymax): @AaronBergman18 @pearl_please Yeah but do you think better of them for it?

Some of them yes in the sense that I have a positive view and the alternative is no view

Tuesday, November 28, 2023

Reply to @ChanaMessinger, 00:43 UTC · 7 likes

Chana (@ChanaMessinger): The real great filter is EA orgs' application processes

I’m making a collage of my rejection emails 😌. It’s in progress rn (screenshots very welcome)

Tweet, 03:36 UTC · 23 likes

I have decided that ratio pruning is bad and u gotta be connectionmaxxing

If ur following me and don’t exclusively lurk and I’m not following u, comment to be considered by the sorting hat

Reply to @crash23001, 03:44 UTC · 4 likes

crash (@crash23001): @AaronBergman18 Why do you think connectionmaxxing is good?

I’m kinda joking - I dont endorse literally maximizing the number of mutuals u have

I’ve just come to think it’s silly and dumb to worry about ratio to the point that it feels aversive to follow ppl back. Brain = status maximizer = bad if left unchecked

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Send me ur rejection email screenshots (comment/dm/whatever)😊

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Quoting Aaron Bergman 🔍 (@AaronBergman18): @ChanaMessinger I’m making a collage of my rejection emails 😌. It’s in progress rn (screenshots very welcome)

Reply to @ohwizenedtortle, 04:11 UTC · 4 likes

oh dandy lion🔸 (@ohwizenedtortle): @AaronBergman18 No.

ok

Reply to @hugorsmith, 06:23 UTC · 3 likes

Hugo Smith (@hugorsmith): And it’s… a lottery for 15 people?

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Lmao what

Reply to @tszzl, 07:22 UTC · 2 likes

roon (@tszzl): index fund morality: EA bednets
shortseller morality: EA xrisk
venture capital morality: acceleration

It would be VC morality if VCs had full liability for the debts of any company they fund

Reply to @memeticsisyphus, 07:37 UTC · 2 likes

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Chevron deference is good, fight me

Reply to @cxgonzalez, 07:44 UTC · 4 likes

christian (@cxgonzalez): which internet ideology wants to accelerate all tech but maybe think through a little better AI and bio weapons?

EA

Reply, 16:00 UTC

Ambiguity might be bad, but there’s no clause in the constitution making it unconstitutional

Reply to @ohwizenedtortle, 16:01 UTC · 4 likes

oh dandy lion🔸 (@ohwizenedtortle): one week of being official with my gf and now I have a bed frame😔

(quoting @ohwizenedtortle: "I don't know why I ever thought I needed a bedframe" -man in his no gf arc)

Nooooooooo

Quote tweet, 16:15 UTC · 16 likes

They tried to ban going for a walk 😡

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Quoting GSV Bemusement Park (@GSVBemusementPk): @AaronBergman18 @memeticsisyphus There is, though. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagueness_doctrine

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It is my god given right to loaf 😤

Reply to @robertwiblin, 16:23 UTC · 17 likes

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Fine I’ll do it

Reply to @NathanpmYoung, 16:42 UTC · 2 likes

Nathan 🔎 (@NathanpmYoung): I pay £3 a month for @OurWorldInData. I use it a lot and I would happily pay that much if it were paywalled.

I don't really consider this effective giving. More like, internalising an externality.

(quoting @MaxCRoser: Today, we launched a big project that we have been working on for the last few months: Data Pages. Data Pages give you all the information you need to understand what this data can tell you about our world. Here is one example:…)

Yeah idk if it checks out in some hard core ethics sense but I also try to give a bit for things like this (though usually not recurring). Like $5 if there’s a donate thing on any free chrome extension I use a lot

Reply to @absurdlymax, 19:04 UTC · 4 likes

Max Alexander (@absurdlymax): @AaronBergman18 @robertwiblin Well if Aaron's got it covered I won't bother

We can switch off if u want. I take even days u take odd

Reply to @albrgr, 19:16 UTC · 3 likes

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IMO you guys should say publicly (eg tweet lol) how many people applied, in total and for each individual role (and how many for each were indicated as first choice if possible)

Very helpful calibration info for applicants

Tweet, 19:42 UTC · 127 likes

Wow! Donate to rethink priorities guys - they will then answer *any question* you might have

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Reply to @GjMcGowan, 19:43 UTC · 3 likes

George McGowan (@GjMcGowan): >"How do I get a girlfriend?"
"Intractable, sorry"

lmao

Reply to @mealreplacer, 19:53 UTC · 2 likes

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Until then, I am begging people to understand that *true* virtue signaling (ie of actually good actions) is not bad and sometimes very good (eg conspicuous donation)

Reply to @austinc3301, 19:54 UTC · 7 likes

Agus 🔸 (@austinc3301): I love how RP literally has relevant expertise for all these questions

Yeah @RethinkPriors feel free to actually opine on any of these lol

Reply to @littIeramblings, 21:34 UTC · 2 likes

sarah (@littIeramblings): report back with the answers pls

Here's one answer https://www.aaronbergman.net/p/the-answer-to-the-sleeping-beauty

Reply to @albrgr, 21:36 UTC · 2 likes

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Oh lol, *definitely* not getting hired now

Reply to @peterwildeford, 21:43 UTC · 2 likes

Peter Wildeford🇺🇸🚀 (@peterwildeford): 1. defense in depth
2. we searched for 2+ years and still don't know
3. 1/2
4. ask @natalia__coelho
5. maximize value but incorporating multiple plausible decision theories
6. @RethinkPriors ofc

No. 4 is old news. Though I'd really love to see a written debate (perfect for a LW dialogue!) between @natalia__coelho and @exfatloss. In fact I'd chip in $10 to make this happen if money is a thing here

https://x.com/natalia__coelho/status/1674641685090013185?s=20

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Tweet, 22:06 UTC · 3 likes

Super cool tool from @exfatloss for my fellow nutrition nerds https://foods.exfatloss.com/

Reply to @OrionJohnston, 22:20 UTC · 2 likes

David Johnston (@OrionJohnston): @AaronBergman18 @peterwildeford @natalia__coelho @RethinkPriors I think it’s a question of what “degree of belief” should mean in this unusual situation, and you haven’t convinced me to adopt your meaning

Yea, my second place answer is “ ‘credence’ doesn’t have a single, well defined meaning in this situation”

Wednesday, November 29, 2023

Reply to @bryan_caplan, 01:45 UTC · 8 likes

Bryan Caplan (@bryan_caplan): Anyone dispute this?

(quoting @DegenRolf: After an average follow-up of 18 years, there was no difference in mortality risk between vegetarians and non-vegetarians. https://jhpn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s41043-023-00460-9)

Not necessarily, just that all cause mortality is notoriously hard to observe in a statistically significant way

Reply to @ciphergoth, 04:38 UTC · 2 likes

Paul Crowley (@ciphergoth): @RomanHauksson @robertwiblin It's fine if you don't have "man" in your surname.

I will tell my 20 y/o cousin studying to be a nurse NOT to apply to this job under any circumstances

Reply to @inesferhumi, 12:00 UTC · 1 like

Inés (@inesferhumi): Everyone wants a super smart well-read gf until your NYT mini crossword times look like this every single day

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Is this h:m or m:s

Reply to @AskYatharth, 12:34 UTC · 2 likes

yatharth ༺༒༻ (@AskYatharth): what is your personal favourite cheese?

for the first time in my life, im able to appreciate them. trying parmigiano reggiano, gran capitan, le gruyère. this is amazing

The elites don’t want u to know this but you can just eat parmesan off the block. U don’t need to just grate a tiny bit on stuff

Reply to @kareem_carr, 12:47 UTC · 2 likes

Kareem Carr, Ph.D. (@kareem_carr): If companies are mostly using AI to do a very mediocre version of something they could have paid a person to do, then the primary contribution of the AI is just saving folks money.

The "transformative innovation" in that scenario is the equivalent of getting a discount coupon.

Even if it were true that reducing costs had only first order effects and AI was mostly used to reduce costs, this would be wrong because even a small % of use being innovation is enough to jump start exponential feedback

Alphafold = proof of concept

Reply to @JesseTayRiver, 15:58 UTC · 3 likes

Jesse Smith (@JesseTayRiver): I enjoy building diagnostics but it's been difficult to monetize fixing complex problems. People will happily pay $250 for a 15 minute capacitor replacement but ask for free site visits on challenging problems. Any suggestions?

Are u sure they want a free visit per se, rather than being ok with an upfront flat assessment fee?

Like the thing they might be averse to is basically saying “yes come and fix my problem and then bill me whatever that costs” bc that could be like any amount of money

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In other words maybe they don’t want a free site visit, they want an up front quote

Reply to @MindShiftKQED, 16:19 UTC · 5 likes

MindShift (@MindShiftKQED): A study from Carnegie Mellon University finds that everyone learns at the same rate, although some students have a head start.

A group of scientists set out to study quick learners. Then they discovered they don't exist
https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/62750/a-group-of-scientists-set-out-to-study-quick-learners-then-they-discovered-they-dont-exist

God bless community notes

Quote tweet, 16:25 UTC · 11 likes

Appropriate pig living quarters

Quoting trailcam (@Trail_Cams):

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Quote tweet, 16:52 UTC · 44 likes

Ambition in DC = nudge the leviathan (which can be pretty important)

Quoting brett goldstein (@thatguybg): ambition in NYC = get rich

ambition in LA = get famous

ambition in SF = change the world

Reply to @absurdlymax, 22:19 UTC · 2 likes

Max Alexander (@absurdlymax): Very few people would have expected this, but I was actually president of my high school philosophy club

Nice

Quote tweet, 22:32 UTC · 3 likes

New cause area?

Quoting George McGowan (@GjMcGowan): Thank you for subscribing to NAKED MOLE RAT FACTS!

* They DO NOT feel pain
* They are VERY long lived for rodents, and rarely suffer from CANCER
* They can survive 5 hours in LOW OXYGEN environments and 18 minutes in ZERO OXYGEN

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naked_mole-rat

Reply to @polisisti, 22:38 UTC · 2 likes

Alessandro (@polisisti): Decided to go further. Got some of these - 5000 lumens.

Much brighter, very nice!!

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(quoting @polisisti: These 2000-lumen lights are nowhere near Eliezer-level illumination (I think he used something like 30,000 lumens, and a normal light for SAD goes up to 10,000 lumens). Nonetheless, I seem to feel more awake when using this for reading than the 450-lumen bulb I'd used before)

Haha haha. YES

Tweet, 22:43 UTC · 6 likes

I don’t have a narrative here

I am simply doing the Current Thing

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Thursday, November 30, 2023

Reply, 04:21 UTC · 1 like

I’m sorry but in my religion such comparisons are considered immodest

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Lol I have I think 3x5000 lumens

I can’t find the details of the first one but it seems as bright as the other two

Tweet, 04:31 UTC · 11 likes

I have never heard of anyone else’s top artists

Quote tweet, 04:39 UTC · 8 likes

One good thing about AI is that some very famous people look kinda normal

Like they all look good! But even I could put on a long sleeve shirt and jeans in a moment of extraordinary need

Quoting Greg Brockman (@gdb): building this together ❤️

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Reply to @bat1441, 04:46 UTC · 2 likes

bat (@bat1441): I've got four moods

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Olivia x LW fans unite

Reply to @parafactual, 04:49 UTC · 1 like

You (@parafactual): @AaronBergman18 mine?

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Heard of grimes lol

None of the others

Reply to his own earlier tweet, 04:50 UTC · 3 likes

Aaron Bergman, November 30, 2023: I have never heard of anyone else’s top artists

I am a basic bitch and that’s ok

Reply to @jessi_cata, 04:57 UTC · 11 likes

jessicat (@jessi_cata): Both optimism and pessimism are anti-epistemic. The P(doom) debate is mainly about generic optimism and pessimism, since no one other than Yudkowsky spells out their reasons for the ballpark of their estimate. P(doom) is mainly for signalling, not for finding cruxes.

I disagree. That’s the vibe on twitter sometimes but elsewhere (rationalist and EA spaces online and irl) it seems quite earnest

Reply to @RandomSprint, 05:03 UTC · 3 likes

RandomSprint🧭 (@RandomSprint): "You can't get an ought from an is" is excellent news.

No argument makes one have to care about chicken, shrimp, or insect welfare. The universe is indifferent, and you can accept the moral priorities the accident of evolution gave you.

I largely agree - I’m a moral realist in the sense that some worlds are objectively better than others, but don’t think normativity (“ought”) exists

But the suffering still exists. The universe at large might not care, but the chickens—who are part of it—certainly do

Reply, 05:07 UTC · 4 likes

It’s a noble victory

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Reply to @HenriThunberg, 05:13 UTC · 5 likes

Henri Thunberg 🔸 (@HenriThunberg): @SchmidtIbanez @peterwildeford There's now a Fatebook about this in RP Slack. Stay tuned for predictions and results, people.
H/t @adambinks_ for creating tools to forecast and resolve important questions for improving the world.

Rethink needs to hire me just enough for me to get into the slack

We can do like 1 hour a year at federal minimum wage

Reply to @NathanB60857242, 05:20 UTC · 2 likes

Nathan Barnard (@NathanB60857242): @CharlesD353 @StefanFSchubert I think US law students are sometimes spoken about in similar terms - that some very strong law students are qualitatively different.

Idk how confident I am in this

Eliezer on Dwarkesh pod is the first thing that comes to mind as demonstrating very high (and higher than me) verbal IQ

They were like 5 layers of abstraction deep and moved between each level fluidly

Tweet, 05:30 UTC · 6 likes

“The universe doesn’t grade on a curve” is such a good quote and insight

Pretty sure it’s @LinchZhang’s, right?

Reply to @LinchZhang, 05:52 UTC · 4 likes

Linch (@LinchZhang): @AaronBergman18 haha no I think it's at least as old as the Sequences, maybe longer.

Wisdom of the ancients

Reply to @thechosenberg, 06:00 UTC · 7 likes

rosey🌹 (@thechosenberg): Begging people to never do this

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Asking someone out politely and taking rejection courteously is fine, including if that person is a coworker

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Tweet, 06:10 UTC · 14 likes

Memes and amusing screenshots of 2023

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Reply to @mdhalloran, 06:13 UTC · 1 like

Matt Halloran (@mdhalloran): @AaronBergman18 I bet you can go 5/5 with mine

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Ok yea now we’re talking

Reply to @freed_dfilan, 06:26 UTC · 2 likes

Daniel Filan 🔎 (@freed_dfilan): @AaronBergman18 bad fucking take about R

Lol

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Reply to @bijibiji2023, 07:17 UTC · 2 likes

hoff 🧒🏻😻 (@bijibiji2023): @AaronBergman18 Good me-mes.

Thanks

Reply to @davidad, 07:55 UTC · 2 likes

davidad 🎇 (@davidad): More @robinhanson!

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This is…true

Tweet, 08:32 UTC · 8 likes

First workout with new 2x50lbs adjustable dumbbells done (getting them up two flights of stairs) 😤

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Too weak to actually carry the full box lol

Had to unpack them outside and do 3 trips, one for each dumbbell and then for the packaging

Tweet, 08:52 UTC · 5 likes

When I say I interned at DOI, this is what I was doing

Tweet, 10:23 UTC · 14 likes

I feel like this hasn’t gotten the attention it deserves

In terms of importance I think the considerations discussed here determine whether P(doom) is like 20% or like 80% https://joecarlsmith.com/2023/11/15/new-report-scheming-ais-will-ais-fake-alignment-during-training-in-order-to-get-power

Thread, continued, 10:23 UTC · 3 likes

In terms of quality it’s like a an inject-it-into-my-veins model of what analytic philosophy is good for (ie careful/serious/technical qualitative reasoning)

Fuck R&P, I’d do a reading group for this

Pdf: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2311.08379.pdf

Reply to @littIeramblings, 11:49 UTC · 3 likes

sarah (@littIeramblings): interesting, can anyone do a dumbed-down TDLR for the stupid amongst us (asking for a friend)

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Reply to @prerat, 15:48 UTC · 3 likes

prerat (@prerat): hmm

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Nothing odd here IMO. It doesn’t know what its system prompt was yesterday to make a comparison

Reply to @thechosenberg, 15:50 UTC · 3 likes

rosey🌹 (@thechosenberg): Pro tip: When you’re starting at a new job, bring in a snack once a week. Donuts, cookies, etc. Finely crush Zyn pouches + Adderall. Add trace amounts to the food at first then increase over time. Win-Win: Productivity sores and your coworkers become addicted to your friendship.

Don’t do trace amounts of amphetamine. Low doses are dangerous apparently

Reply to @HenriThunberg, 20:01 UTC · 2 likes

Henri Thunberg 🔸 (@HenriThunberg): @AaronBergman18 @SchmidtIbanez @peterwildeford @adambinks_ How would you feel about "RP besties GC 🥰" on WhatsApp as a compromise?

I am willing and able to serve as an RP Bestie


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