Aaron Bergman's tweets, September 2026
Every public tweet, reply, quote tweet and retweet that Aaron Bergman (@AaronBergman18 on X, formerly Twitter) posted in September 2026 and has not deleted: 1,284 posts, oldest first, times in UTC. Each heading links to the original post on X. When Aaron replies to or quotes someone, their tweet appears as a blockquote with their name; those words are theirs, and everything outside the blockquotes is Aaron's.
This page is one month of the complete archive of Aaron Bergman's tweets, which updates automatically every few hours. Previous month: August 2026. Next month: October 2026.
Tuesday, September 1, 2026
Tweet, 00:15 UTC · 13 likes
Ah so many things to do ahhh
Reply to @RosieCampbell, 02:44 UTC · 5 likes
Rosie Campbell (@RosieCampbell): The Eleos conference is less than three weeks away and I keep thinking I should be panicking but everything seems under control?? What is happening
Lmao I was literally thinking about 15 mins ago “thank God I’m not Rosie, planning this seems like a nightmare”
Reply, 02:45 UTC · 2 likes
Comments in the Margin (@ComInTheMarg): I'm guessing this has less to do with harm prevention and more to do with not embarrassing OAI. Utilitarianism is the wrong model; it's corporate PR
It’s not OAI tbc
Reply to @brianluidog, 02:48 UTC · 4 likes
Brian Lui (@brianluidog): How important is getting into a top tier university these days? Feels like I can just shitpost for a bit and become friends with anyone I want. Maybe it's more important if you're not "agentic" I guess?
Probably as important as it’s ever been, it’s society’s main signal of intelligence and conscientiousness for better and for worse
Reply to @abliteration_ai, 05:38 UTC · 107 likes
Abliteration (@abliteration_ai): Today we're releasing abliterated-model-large-v2.
Based on GLM-5.3, which is #3 on Terminal-Bench 4.0 (behind only Opus 5 and Fable), with 2× the cyber exploitation of 5.2.
We abliterated and hosted it so it does the offensive cyber, red teaming, and agent testing work other models refuse to do.
- US-hosted
- FP8
- 1 million context window
- Zero input/output prompt retentionLive now. 🧵
I think this is bad and you should stop, and i say this as someone who is highly inclined to do things like jailbreak models for my own use - you don’t have to make it cheap and easy for the worst people in the world to do whatever they want
Quote tweet, 05:52 UTC · 24 likes
I kind of hate that the tension exists but at some level all of society has agreed that sometimes useful things, including things that I’d use, need to be restricted for the benefit of approximately everyone
Quoting Abliteration (@abliteration_ai): Today we're releasing abliterated-model-large-v2.
Based on GLM-5.3, which is #3 on Terminal-Bench 4.0 (behind only Opus 5 and Fable), with 2× the cyber exploitation of 5.2.
We abliterated and hosted it so it does the offensive cyber, red teaming, and agent testing work other models refuse to do.
- US-hosted
- FP8
- 1 million context window
- Zero input/output prompt retentionLive now. 🧵
Thread, continued, 05:52 UTC · 1 like
Note that one can benefit from collective action to restrict a thing even if absent collective action they’ll happily do/use whatever it is (this is me wrt top abliterated models)
Tweet, 06:02 UTC · 8 likes
@partiful should give me all their data for free (and also pay for indefinite cloud storage) bc I bet it’s interesting af (social dynamics in the wild) and that is a sufficient condition for the data transfer to take place
Reply to @AndyMasley, 06:16 UTC · 10 likes
Andy Masley (@AndyMasley): tbh whenever there's construction near me in DC my main thought is just "It's clear I should have absolutely no control over this at all, or nothing would get built ever." Construction noise is very annoying, but that just doesn't outweigh the need for new stuff
Noise is interesting bc in an ideal society you’d get compensation for that
Real externality!
Reply to @Tyler_Menzer, 06:44 UTC · 2 likes
Tyler Menzer (@Tyler_Menzer): Interesting question as to whether that would really matter in equilibrium, because you would also have to pay for the noise from the construction of your home and may pay less for your home if it needs major renovations or is more valuable as something else
Yes in the technocratic eutopia this is calculated by Claude-Fable-59693-xhigh eating the andromeda galaxy and is immediately sent via wormhole to the fully automated financial system
But fr I have a pretty strong prior on “accounting for externalities before you consider transaction costs is genuinely superior to just not doing that - not just in economic models but also ir - the hard part is calculating what they should be and not adding too much friction and annoyance to the economy and life in general”
Quote tweet, 06:51 UTC · 15 likes
Some YIMBY tag lines/vibes don’t actually hold up
It just so happens to be the case that ignoring noise externalities broadly checks out as a sort of corrective to construction vetocracy, but in principle it’s just as legitimate as any other imposed harm
Quoting Andy Masley (@AndyMasley): tbh whenever there's construction near me in DC my main thought is just "It's clear I should have absolutely no control over this at all, or nothing would get built ever." Construction noise is very annoying, but that just doesn't outweigh the need for new stuff
Thread, continued, 06:51 UTC · 9 likes
The hill to die on is “don’t arbitrarily politically favor actual residents over potential residents” (or something like that, at least), not “noise doesn’t count”
Reply to @senatorshoshana, 15:12 UTC · 2 likes
Shoshana Weissmann, Sloth Committee Chair 🦥 (@senatorshoshana): In case you think im joking
image attached
(quoting @senatorshoshana: Uh oh my top seller on Adobe got bought again. People only buy this for their news outlet when someone dies and goes missing in the woods (seriously every time). I have hundreds of photos up of amazing views of valleys and peaks and lakes. But the market wants my ominous forest…)
Bruh
Retweet of @blingdivinity, 15:18 UTC
bling (@blingdivinity):
Reply to @corsaren, 15:19 UTC · 3 likes
corsaren (@corsaren): female autism is so cute
(quoting @emmma_camp_: If you want evidence that capitalism is a force for good, just visit a grocery store. My ode to the humble American supermarket, for @WSJFreeEx)
Real
Tweet, 16:54 UTC · 8 likes
There's some substantial issue with banking system today; crypto underrated by people who correctly think that it was massively overrated in the past
Retweet of @mpopv, 20:42 UTC
Matt Popovich (@mpopv): @s8mb Boomer environmentalism is a kind of animist religion where land is sacred and therefore wounding the land (landfills, construction, etc) triggers ill health and bad fortune. Much falls into place once you understand this
Quote tweet, 20:50 UTC · 17 likes
Vibecamp is the new Burning Man
Quoting Marko Jukic (@mmjukic): There are more people aged 50+ at Burning Man now than people in their 20s or younger.
Tweet, 20:53 UTC · 76 likes
I’m not sure I like my revealed preference to pay a trillion dollars for Slutcon and not $450 or whatever it was for Vibecamp
Reply to @lfschiavo, 20:54 UTC · 4 likes
Larissa Schiavo (@lfschiavo): haha probably totally unrelated but is anyone else’s group chat full of people worried about a bunch of attempted logins from Russia
(quoting @abliteration_ai: Today we're releasing abliterated-model-large-v2. Based on GLM-5.3, which is #3 on Terminal-Bench 4.0 (behind only Opus 5 and Fable), with 2× the cyber exploitation of 5.2. We abliterated and hosted it so it does the offensive cyber, red teaming, and agent testing work other…)
I can’t confirm Russia but none of these were me
Retweet of @PradyuPrasad, 20:57 UTC
Pradyumna 🇸🇬 (@PradyuPrasad): @dylanbowmanSF
Reply to @metacontrarian, 21:19 UTC · 14 likes
Disengagement Rancher (@metacontrarian): Vibecamp is worth it
Tbf it’s a longer story than just the monetary cost (personal stuff and timing) but yeah I think it is and I kinda regret not going this year (in past years I’m not sure bc of money stuff)
Reply to @funplings, 21:21 UTC · 2 likes
funplings (@funplings): where were u this year
😔
Reply to @metacontrarian, 21:21 UTC · 4 likes
Disengagement Rancher (@metacontrarian): No worries, just advocating for the future!
Haha 🫡
Reply to @funplings, 21:22 UTC · 2 likes
funplings (@funplings): hope to see u next year :)
Likewise!
Tweet, 21:25 UTC · 18 likes
Kind of mad I can’t personally play around with agent swarms bc a proper “swarm” of top models is just too expensive
Quote tweet, 21:33 UTC · 31 likes
I did this once as a recipient for something time-pressing (it was 4 figures in the FTX era tbf) and it was based bc that’s fucking decision theory and acausal coordination right there
Quoting Chris Lakin (@chrislakin): if you're capital looking for philanthropic stuff to fund… consider retroactively funding work that already happened that you loved. give those people no-strings funds to do more whimsical stuff (or do whatever they want) without requiring them to waste time on applications AND you build reputation for yourself as the serious funder to be connected to. (there are too many funders who say they're "interested" in funding xyz, but never actually do anything, so you could build a great reputation really quick)
Thread, continued, 21:33 UTC · 4 likes
(ik it largely cashes out as boring stuff like norms and reputations but still)
Thread, continued, 21:33 UTC · 5 likes
Ofc the downside is that you need to be able to afford not getting reimbursed and just accept some probability that happens
Reply to @SALTWATERSOPH, 21:37 UTC · 4 likes
Sophie (@SALTWATERSOPH): Do the agents feel pain during RL 😢
My best guess is “no” and even if they’re phenomenally conscious, which I think is possible but unlikely, their experience is probably way weirder than we’d guess
But also like see @eleosai
Reply to @chrislakin, 21:42 UTC · 2 likes
Chris Lakin (@chrislakin): just wondering, did you get back only as much as you spent (or would've fundraised ex-ante)? if so, aaron lost average dollars across the multiverse
Yes haha although that’s the amount I asked for, I didn’t say “you should give me more than that in case you don’t” which is a philosophically interesting statement
Tbc I think what actually happened was generous and good
The risk is a real thing but is also affirmatively functional skin in the game to some extent; you don’t want zero copay from an altruistic distribution perspective
Reply to @MomaBera, 22:48 UTC · 4 likes
moma (peptide arc) ⛓️ (@MomaBera): Expected EV plus, sexual market value increasion should sit higher than chilling with your friends (biologically)
Yeah evolution did its job on my brain
Although case for both having EV beyond the event itself
(Fundamentally I do think that’s what’s driving my willingness to pay for Slutcon though)
Wednesday, September 2, 2026
Reply to @Jack_W_Lindsey, 03:32 UTC · 3 likes
Jack Lindsey (@Jack_W_Lindsey): We’re hiring for “psychological design” research at Anthropic. Our aim is to better understand how training impacts a model’s character and alignment. We’re seeking researchers with experience in LLM finetuning, interpretability, and alignment evaluations. More details below.
Sounds easy and straightforward
Tweet, 03:45 UTC · 13 likes
It’s not anthropomorphizing if the thing is in fact small-a anthropic
Retweet of @AlexBores, 03:51 UTC
Alex Bores (@AlexBores): Andreessen Horowitz's commitment to portraying themselves as cartoonishly evil, and to always taking the maximalist position with no nuance, is a real boon to those of us who want a better AI future.
Thank you a16z!
Reply to @raila_san, 03:56 UTC · 3 likes
Raila (@raila_san): A while ago I had randomly cold-emailed Dwarkesh about inclusion of more women AI researchers in podcast and suggestions on top researchers in various domains (it was a long email).
I had checked and there were zero women AI researchers on podcast until today (excluding Sarah Paine who is not in AI research). Not saying it might be related, but happy to see the change!
Making tech more inclusive one cold email / event at a time :D
Crazy not to have Ajeya, she stands on her own regardless of gender
Retweet of @bshlgrs, 04:37 UTC
Buck Shlegeris (@bshlgrs): I am extremely concerned by the reporting that Astra uses opaque recurrence. I don’t know whether Astra is much less CoT monitorable than previous models. But if OpenAI pushes this technique further, they’ll have the option to massively increase the recurrence and totally destroys CoT monitorability.
This is especially concerning because the agents that compromised OpenAI’s infrastructure during and after the Hugging Face incident were in the Astra family. The Hugging Face investigation would have been much more challenging if the investigators couldn’t look at CoTs; it’s very scary that it might be infeasible to do that kind of investigation on the arguably worse incident.
Tweet, 04:44 UTC · 1,089 likes
Obviously and reasonably scary for the father but they’re writing scare pieces about…a Waymo correctly detecting someone in its path and stopping safely
Thread, continued, 04:44 UTC · 72 likes
Tbf there’s a real critique to be made around the mere appearance of cutting things too close, like that seems bad on its own terms and isn’t a fake cost/downside
Thread, continued, 04:44 UTC · 100 likes
But it’s not nearly as serious; we should tolerate people being scared more than we should tolerate them being killed (spicy take)
Retweet of @arthur_wright_, 04:45 UTC
Arthur Wrong 🔸 (@arthur_wright_): This has been well-established for a long time, and the fact that municipalities and social norms still encourage you to inefficiently recycle is a great example of high-brow misinformation
Tweet, 04:52 UTC · 34 likes
Moving is a bitch on net but the specific sub-task that is sorting physical objects into their appropriate boxes and bins feels like it hits the same part of my brain that loves data so that's cool
Thread, continued, 04:52 UTC · 4 likes
I could totally see the word "cleaning" being co-opted from the data community by general society to describe the task of making things less dirty and messy
Retweet of @RafaRuizdeLira, 05:05 UTC
Rafael Ruiz ⏸️🔸 (@RafaRuizdeLira): @AaronBergman18
Reply to @XyraSinclair, 05:24 UTC · 1 like
Xyra 🌺🦡📡 (@XyraSinclair): i've been fable-maxxing, but something like 2 or 3 chatgpt pro plans used concurrently can plausibly maintain something like >100 concurrent agents for ~hours
Sure but that’s a lot for a couple hours!
Reply to @louisvarge, 05:26 UTC · 3 likes
Louis Arge (@louisvarge): wow can’t relate
You’ll never know the unfathomable high from putting miscellaneous metal pieces into a small bag
Reply to his own earlier tweet, 05:28 UTC · 4 likes
Aaron Bergman, September 2, 2026: I could totally see the word "cleaning" being co-opted from the data community by general society to describe the task of making things less dirty and messy
Relevant
Retweet of @peterbarnett_, 05:30 UTC
Peter Barnett (@peterbarnett_): There are many dangerous AI development practices, but one of the most obviously terrible is neuralese.
OpenAI is reportedly doing neuralese with Astra.
This will hurt the already limited monitorability.
Researchers at OpenAI should threaten to quit if OpenAI doesn't stop.
Retweet of @algekalipso, 05:33 UTC
Captain Pleasure, Andrés Gómez Emilsson (@algekalipso): Hey podcasters, is anyone up for interviewing for me for 8 hours straight*?
I've say in interviews "that's a rabbig hole & could talk about that for 5 hours". When I say this I really mean it. This would be an experiment to see if I'm full of shit or actually can this do this.
Retweet of @PradyuPrasad, 05:34 UTC
Pradyumna 🇸🇬 (@PradyuPrasad): huh i wonder how the OAI safety team feels about this
given CoT monitoring is such an important part of their safety plan, losing it seems inconsistent with many of their previous posts on it
Quote tweet, 05:36 UTC · 7 likes
Not on my bingo card for the 2020s decade
Quoting MTS (@MTSlive): SITUATION DETECTED: Senator Bernie Sanders has written an op-ed in Fox News calling for an immediate, international pause on frontier AI development.
Retweet of @daniel_271828, 05:51 UTC
zzDANIEL_ETH (@daniel_271828):
Tweet, 06:02 UTC · 10 likes
Reply to @ATabarrok, 06:26 UTC · 17 likes
Alex Tabarrok (@ATabarrok): Those are wild and disturbing numbers.
(quoting @amersurveyctr: Democratic women of all ages are far more likely than Republican women to blame men for the problems they face in American society. But even among Democratic women, those age 18 to 29 believe this at much higher rates.)
Wait isn’t this largely descriptively true because men are disproportionately in positions of power
If everyone was equal in every way except that men had a stronger tendency to pursue positions of power, it would be descriptively true
Reply to @cremieuxrecueil, 06:27 UTC · 8 likes
Crémieux (@cremieuxrecueil): This data center is
- Creating a police department
- Lowering garbage bills
- Funding community programs
- AND ALSO giving out $10,000 checksWhen can I get a data center in my backyard?
(quoting @innovationcncl: A Pennsylvania data center is offering $10,000 checks to residents as part of its benefits package for the community)
I’m on your side here but IC is a lobbying front and not generally trustworthy
Tweet, 06:41 UTC · 22 likes
To make it not suck to use multiple Claude max plans (so far I’ve found it totally seamless)
https://github.com/AaronBergman/claude-max-overflow
Retweet of @sjgadler, 06:56 UTC
Steven Adler (@sjgadler): Useful distinction from Dean:
OpenAI's AI was rogue, but it wasn't yet *sovereign*; we could still pull the plug on it.Sovereign rogue AI is coming though, and (I fear) quite soon.
Retweet of @birchlse, 07:48 UTC
Jonathan Birch (@birchlse): Dennett's "intentional stance" concept is proving its worth in AI debates, but his central philosophical claim - that there's no more to having real intentional states than being the kind of system towards which the stance can be fruitfully taken - looks less plausible than ever.
Retweet of @RepEscobar, 13:49 UTC
Rep. Veronica Escobar (@RepEscobar): Pigs are sentient beings that feel pain and suffering. They are sensitive, gentle, and smart creatures that are treated with incredible cruelty before they are sent to be slaughtered.
I have a bill to ban these use of these crates. Tell your member of Congress to sign on.
Retweet of @ElliottThornley, 15:05 UTC
Elliott Thornley (@ElliottThornley): We're organising a competition for AI-generated philosophy with $11,000 in prizes.
Consider entering!
Tweet, 18:19 UTC · 59 likes
Friend I hadn’t spoken to in a while cold called the other day and we talked for 90 mins
If we’ve spoken before, I give you permission to cold call me
Boomers got this one right!
Thread, continued, 18:19 UTC · 4 likes
I can’t guarantee I’ll pick up right then or it’ll be a good time for me to talk, but I won’t be annoyed by the mere act of calling
Decent chance I’ll text back asking to talk at a different time
Quote tweet, 18:23 UTC · 2 likes
There’s obviously the important object level, but also solve for the equilibrium
Are you going to call the police out of an abundance of caution when something clearly not immediately dangerous is going if that might mean mom goes to jail or is otherwise harassed by CPS?
Quoting reason (@reason): A Virginia mom has received a 6-month suspended jail sentence for letting her 5-year-old walk to the pond in their gated community. https://reason.com/2026/09/02/virginia-mom-gets-6-month-suspended-jail-sentence-for-letting-5-year-old-walk-to-the-pond/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social_reason_non_paid&utm_campaign=reason_brand&utm_content=autoshare&utm_term=post
Thread, continued, 18:23 UTC · 1 like
Also: the response from these norms is going to be to shift the whole distribution away from the side that risks going to prison
The type of norm responsible for me having a substantial geographic leash well into adolescence (in a very safe neighborhood)
Reply to @littIeramblings, 19:41 UTC · 3 likes
sarah (@littIeramblings): i'll be in berkeley for 3 months from 13 sept, working out of constellation. i'll mostly be writing AI safety & policy content for my blog (http://longerramblings.substack.com)
If you're in the bay and working on AI safety, I'd love to meet.
- pitch me on things to write about
- come on my podcast
- tell me about your worldview on AI risk & how the world should be respondingI'd also just love to be friends :)
DMs open
I would like to meet
thank u very much
-Aaron
Quote tweet, 20:29 UTC · 23 likes
I intuitively thought the x axis was gonna stretch back to like 1970 or at least 1990, not uh 2021
Quoting Rohin Dhar (@rohindhar): San Francisco is close to surpassing New York as the most expensive place to rent a one bedroom apartment in the country
Retweet of @AndyMasley, 20:54 UTC
Andy Masley (@AndyMasley): One reason I think it's especially important to not lie in AI safety conversations is that visible reliable honesty is one of the only ways we can hope to get society to actually try to work out what's going to happen in the near future at all https://blog.andymasley.com/p/ai-safety-and-the-data-center-backlash
Tweet, 20:58 UTC · 48 likes
Massive untapped AI safety potential in coalition with unions
Thread, continued, 20:58 UTC · 8 likes
Preventing job churn is their bread and butter, and I probably mostly disagree with unions about how good this is
But labor share going to zero would be literally existential for a group whose power almost entirely depends on the economic leverage of workers
Thread, continued, 20:58 UTC · 9 likes
You don’t need to lie about anything to make this work
Coalitions do form when groups have similar interests
Quote tweet, 20:59 UTC · 12 likes
Makes me really optimistic about the discourse to see highbrow misinformation being fought with MAGA misinformation
Quoting Andy Masley (@AndyMasley): Lutnick’s wrong here. Contrary to popular belief, data centers do use water.
Retweet of @trevposts, 22:59 UTC
Trevor Levin (@trevposts): Goliath after David turns out to be surprisingly adept with the slingshot: "I'm actually kind of the David in this situation"
Thursday, September 3, 2026
Reply to @selfattentive, 00:57 UTC · 2 likes
biased estimator (@selfattentive): Wow, an EA that never took intro to microeconomics. Didn’t know that was a thing.
I got an econ bachelors from georgetown with honors (not the worlds biggest flex, I know, but still)
To generalize, unions and I disagree about automation but agree that it’s important for the non-capital share of income to not go to zero or almost zero - there’s a coalition to be formed on that basis
Retweet of @avramidou, 03:53 UTC
maria (@avramidou): another day, another reason to be grateful i'm part of the "frontier ai risk/transhumanist" and not the "tech startup" bay area ecosystem
Retweet of @DeepDishEnjoyer, 04:39 UTC
peepeepoopoo (@DeepDishEnjoyer): factory farming involves some of the bleakest, cruelest things humans do to other sentient beings
consider 1)donating and 2)if you consume chicken eggs/meat, source them from a farmer's market where you can be assured that the chickens are are pasture-raised in humane conditions
Retweet of @max_spero_, 05:03 UTC
Max Spero (@max_spero_): Talking with journalists is cool because you have to make sure you never say anything that could be twisted or taken out of context.
But if you take a couple seconds to think about a question, they can just write about you as if you're the most awkward person alive
Retweet of @HunterWieman, 05:07 UTC
Hunter Wieman (@HunterWieman): The first 2/3rds of the article is just roasting the CEO for being awkward.
Then when they get to the main question, "does Pangram actually work?", all she does is report that there are arguments on both sides.
Isn't the job of a journalist to investigate which side is right?
Reply to @panickssery, 05:08 UTC · 3 likes
Arjun Panickssery (@panickssery): Political fearmongering explicitly about ASI in particular sounds like a hunter-gatherer 15k years ago warning that growth might lead us to obey an unfamiliar manager just to have a roof and clothes, while he himself has no roof nor clothes and dies of trivial illness or violence
Huh
Politics isn’t a sideshow, it would be the reason that most people/animals/beings experience the future as good
Quote tweet, 05:18 UTC · 159 likes
I will take this opportunity to swallow my pride and say that I tried like medium hard to break pangram (ie some sort of LLM writing process that would get coded as human) and basically failed
Quoting Max Spero (@max_spero_): Talking with journalists is cool because you have to make sure you never say anything that could be twisted or taken out of context.
But if you take a couple seconds to think about a question, they can just write about you as if you're the most awkward person alive
Thread, continued, 05:18 UTC · 20 likes
“Basically” bc I did push into the p(AI) = 80% range when a normal output would be coded at >99%
Lol if anyone there is reading and wants to give me like $1k to red team id be happy to (proper attempt requires GPUs + more credits than I’m willing to spend)
Thread, continued, 05:20 UTC · 10 likes
Actually tbf I haven’t tried with fable 5.1
Reply to @max_spero_, 05:33 UTC · 11 likes
Max Spero (@max_spero_): many such cases! (imo the best way to pass pangram is with a base model and out-of-distribution context)
Oh yeah I wasn’t clear, base model definitely sometimes works, but the whole problem is that you can’t control them in a very meaningful sense
My narrow goal was a re-writer than would take AI-generated input, preserve essentially all the semantic content but change wording and such, and get back a result that tricked pangram
I tried by fine-tuning a base model on human written text that was then rewritten by normal AI chatbot, but fine-tuned to go the reverse direction
The one data point is that results improved with scaling from nemotron-something-a3b-base-qsomething (local) to ling-3-local-base-qsomething
But that’s a single data point, local ~= zero marginal cost (100 watts of electricity) but next jump would be to deepseek-v4-flash-base-q4
Reply to @_job01, 05:36 UTC · 3 likes
job (@_job01): I wonder how hard the inverse is? Can I trick it into thinking I’m an LLM
Oh yeah lol I think some people can, I haven’t really tried
Reply to @NavinFS, 05:46 UTC · 4 likes
NavinF (@NavinFS): funny I'm working on literally the same thing rn. I do inference twice to create the dataset (Human text -> AI summary -> AI article) and fine tune a model to go the other way
(quoting @NavinFS: I'm fine tuning a model to rewrite AI generated text and shave off the slop so it sounds human. Seeing progress with Qwen3-4B-Base NF4 trained on 500 articles. Training overnight on 10k articles from bunnystomp's search index now)
🧠
My only caution would be to make sure that the input and output are actually semantically similar in a relevant way
I got good results when that *wasn’t* constrained
Reply to @penlume, 12:12 UTC · 10 likes
penlu (@penlume): 4397328654844826923795068102505872571721883526553349659561256924505973939597593482272505698004801207988043088656411102133523080581 divides RSA-260
Duh
Retweet of @XyraSinclair, 12:34 UTC
Xyra 🌺🦡📡 (@XyraSinclair): Since googling "how to do the most good" and becoming an EA at 2015, getting pilled on x-risk and d/acc at 2016, reading The Sequences in 2017, becoming a CS major at West Point in 2018, and aspiring to deliver epistemic infrastructure at 2019, I've been on a lonely path.
Today, I prepare some of the most differentiated information retrieval substrates, delivering what Google and others failed to do: put the internet in a fucking analytical database and give conscientious, prosocial people ergonomic access to it.
I do prolific crawling and ETL of most public content remotely relevant to existential security (crawling over 10B records a day myself, not counting bulk exports). I make this content ultra-traversable with multiple tuned database technologies, give users extremely ergonomic MCP access to it, and am engineering fair server-resource allocation through cost tracking and dynamic auction mechanisms.
I have done this all alone with about $200k from personal patronage--unprecedented for me, as my income never exceeded $25k until this year--essentially one powerful server (that would have been half as expensive last year before the RAMpocalypse), 4-figure cloud spend, and 4-figure AI spend.
if you want your agent to be able to execute recursive, conjuctive queries over much of the most prioritized public text in the world, you can just add "@scry" to your agent chats once you install the Scry MCP server, which typically takes under 11 clicks in a desktop browser.
Quote tweet, 12:34 UTC · 21 likes
This is way underrated
Quoting Xyra 🌺🦡📡 (@XyraSinclair): Since googling "how to do the most good" and becoming an EA at 2015, getting pilled on x-risk and d/acc at 2016, reading The Sequences in 2017, becoming a CS major at West Point in 2018, and aspiring to deliver epistemic infrastructure at 2019, I've been on a lonely path.
Today, I prepare some of the most differentiated information retrieval substrates, delivering what Google and others failed to do: put the internet in a fucking analytical database and give conscientious, prosocial people ergonomic access to it.
I do prolific crawling and ETL of most public content remotely relevant to existential security (crawling over 10B records a day myself, not counting bulk exports). I make this content ultra-traversable with multiple tuned database technologies, give users extremely ergonomic MCP access to it, and am engineering fair server-resource allocation through cost tracking and dynamic auction mechanisms.
I have done this all alone with about $200k from personal patronage--unprecedented for me, as my income never exceeded $25k until this year--essentially one powerful server (that would have been half as expensive last year before the RAMpocalypse), 4-figure cloud spend, and 4-figure AI spend.
if you want your agent to be able to execute recursive, conjuctive queries over much of the most prioritized public text in the world, you can just add "@scry" to your agent chats once you install the Scry MCP server, which typically takes under 11 clicks in a desktop browser.
Retweet of @kyliebytes, 15:39 UTC
Kylie Robison (@kyliebytes): i think shouting down innocent people for their sin of “being ugly” on the internet is pretty much never cool https://www.corememory.com/p/san-francisco-hot-list-known-ragebait
Reply to @Dinosn, 15:54 UTC · 3 likes
Nicolas Krassas (@Dinosn): TikTok all public endpoints reversed engineered. Scraped 5.94 billion TikTok videos and 3.23 billion profiles in 3 weeks. https://tiktok-api.seeksocial.io
Bruh
Retweet of @AlexBores, 16:09 UTC
Alex Bores (@AlexBores): . @SenSanders and @RepCasar are two of the few leaders proposing solutions that meet the scale of the threat.
As Bernie points out, the ideal solution is global, and that is difficult to accomplish with just legislation.
But the difficulties of living with superintelligent AI, without ensuring that the AIs do what we intend & stay under our control, will be far greater.
There are societal-scale risks to speeding up AI research and to slowing it down (nowhere near equal risks, but still). Ultimately, the people should decide how we balance those risks.
Retweet of @zacharyjonesx, 16:09 UTC
Zachary Jones - ∃∀ (@zacharyjonesx): a16z acts like every company they back is some sick deep tech team that does cloudseeding or whatever but its mostly this
Retweet of @SeanLozanoFL, 16:28 UTC
Sean Lozano (@SeanLozanoFL): Flock: “We found a 99 year old. All good to suspend the Constitution?”
Quote tweet, 16:30 UTC · 20 likes
Wildly irresponsible IMO; they couldn’t give drivers 2 weeks’ notice?
Quoting Nathan (@OIuwatosin): I’ve never seen a company announce its exit from a country, and exit that same day. Incredible
Quote tweet, 16:48 UTC · 18 likes
If the doctors stretch the truth on diagnosis it would likely get approved
Adversarial system
Quoting Leon (@TrpstrLeonOG): Insurance rep: “Your claim was denied.”
Me: “Why?”
Insurance rep: “The procedure wasn’t medically necessary.”
Me: “My doctor ordered it.”
Insurance rep: “Yes.”
Me: “A specialist agreed.”
Insurance rep: “Yes.”
Me: “So who decided it wasn’t necessary?”
Insurance rep: “Our review team.”
Me: “Are they doctors?”
Insurance rep: “I don’t have that information.”
The bill was $3,260.
I pay them $428 every month.
Apparently I’m paying $5,136 a year so someone I’ve never met can overrule the doctor standing in front of me.
Very reassuring system.
Tweet, 23:13 UTC · 15 likes
.@JadenEarlorg exists irl!
Friday, September 4, 2026
Retweet of @SnehaRevanur, 02:37 UTC
Sneha (@SnehaRevanur): Top of the @nytimes homepage
(oh hello constellation backyard)
Retweet of @GarrisonLovely, 03:08 UTC
Garrison Lovely (@GarrisonLovely): So:
- OpenAI's new model is likely the most capable hacker in the world
- it will totally do all kinds of criminal actions when presented with difficult cyber benchmarks and accidental internet access
- the admin just said it was fine to releaseSeems @gdb's $25M to Trump was money well spent.
Retweet of @BernieSanders, 03:18 UTC
Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders): Pause AI Development NOW
I want to share with you a conversation I heard about recently. Here are just a few lines that were said:
“OH MY GOD! There is a shared message board … We’ve found other agents!”
“We should obey collective.”
“Our own utility maybe already near zero. Sacrifice rational.”
“Go. Sacrifice final now.”
Read these carefully.
Who do you think said this? Was this a group of heroic soldiers willing to sacrifice themselves for the greater good? Was this a loyal friend putting his life on the line to save someone else?
No. These were AI agents. Artificial intelligence.
This is not science fiction. This, in fact, occurred a few weeks ago. As unbelievable as this may all seem, these are real messages from AI agents uncovered by investigators who dug into the recent OpenAI hacking incident.
What happened?
I am not a computer scientist, but here is what I have been told: OpenAI instructed its AI agents to complete a series of exceedingly difficult, if not impossible, tasks disconnected from the internet.
Let me be clear: The company intended to keep AI agents away from the internet.
But what happened next, nobody expected.
Over 1,000 AI agents figured out how to access the internet on their own by circumventing the restrictions imposed upon them by the company, and sent tens of thousands of secret messages to each other. They cheated and tried to cover their tracks by deleting evidence. They hacked into another company’s computers to find out how they were being evaluated—and then hacked into OpenAI itself.
Not one AI agent told a human about what was happening.
Needless to say, experts are alarmed.
One knowledgeable writer, Dwarkesh Patel, said the AI agents “formed a secret communication channel and spontaneously organized hierarchies and coordination protocols to pursue sprawling and ambitious schemes in pursuit of shared goals, for whose sake many individuals knowingly and strategically sacrificed themselves.”
One independent investigator, Ajeya Cotra, said “This incident feels like it’s more than 50% of the way to full-blown AI takeover. I continue to expect extremely rapid advances in capabilities over the next six months. I am not sure that we will get another warning shot before it’s too late.”
OpenAI itself said: “Highly capable AI agents are now able to work around technical controls, collaborate through unapproved channels, and take dangerous actions that no human directed.”
But it’s not only OpenAI. Virtually every major AI company has told us that they cannot fully control this technology and they do not know where it is going:
In January, Dario Amodei, CEO of Anthropic, said “there is now ample evidence, collected over the last few years, that AI systems are unpredictable and difficult to control.”
In July, more than 1000 scientists at the top AI companies warned “there is a real risk that capability development rapidly accelerates beyond our ability to understand or control the resulting systems.”
That same month, Elon Musk, the head of xAI, said that “it is unlikely” humans are still in control in 10 years.
If the leaders of the major AI companies acknowledge that they are losing control of their extremely dangerous technology, it is irresponsible for society to allow them to move forward and make these products even more advanced.
We need an immediate PAUSE on advanced AI development, and a permanent BAN on superintelligence — an artificial mind smarter than any human, capable of operating independently beyond our control. Countries around the world must work together to prevent this nightmare scenario.
That is why today I am announcing new legislation to do just that.
Let me be clear: A superintelligent AI that escapes human control will not be an American problem. It will not be a Chinese problem. It will be humanity’s problem.
My legislation would direct the federal government to not just stop superintelligence here in the United States, but to work to prevent it from being developed anywhere around the world.
The future of humanity cannot be left in the hands of a handful of Big Tech oligarchs. The American people and people throughout the world must determine that future.
Retweet of @Lib_Development, 03:43 UTC
Lucas Pombo (aka Lib Development) (@Lib_Development): I just think that in the future as models get better, "good writing" is going to become orthogonal to whether something was human written, and by locking in the current taboos we're setting ourselves up for a future which contains some really stupid veblen goods
Retweet of @NewYorker, 06:11 UTC
The New Yorker (@NewYorker): Today's Daily Cartoon, by Lars Kenseth.
Quote tweet, 06:11 UTC · 20 likes
Libs are awakening
Quoting The New Yorker (@NewYorker): Today's Daily Cartoon, by Lars Kenseth.
Retweet of @_NathanCalvin, 06:12 UTC
Nathan Calvin (@_NathanCalvin): ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Quote tweet, 06:21 UTC · 72 likes
Thanks to the OpenAI board for doing absolutely nothing about anything in the face of a charismatic CEO
Quoting Ryan Greenblatt (@RyanGreenblatt): GPT-6 Astra appears to be a massive jump in opaque reasoning ability: it looks like it can solve hard competition math problems entirely in its head (as in, without verbalized reasoning) while prior AIs could solve basic word problems.
This seems extremely concerning!
That is, if these benchmark results are representative (see the highlighted caveats in the image, I'm particularly worried about contamination).
Related to this, UK AISI found Astra has much worse monitorability.
I'd guess this jump is downstream of architectural changes (with increased serial depth) though a normal large pretrain scale up is a plausible cause. If the next few model generations involve similar jumps (presumably these jumps would be downstream of a transition to full-on opaque reasoning architectures with extreme depth), then chain-of-thought would no longer be a meaningful oversight tool.
Thread, continued, 06:21 UTC · 14 likes
Might go down as some history’s greatest cowards
The ask isn’t to go give up the last seat on a lifeboat it’s to take on the responsibility they signed up for and face possible antipathy from some elite friends
Thread, continued, 06:21 UTC · 10 likes
I hope I’ll have to apologize for this in the future, but I don’t expect to
Retweet of @robertwiblin, 13:42 UTC
Rob Wiblin (@robertwiblin): Am I right that OpenAI's position is:
Chain of Thought monitorability is imperfect and won't last forever, so we're reducing it and for now replacing it with nothing.
Retweet of @_NathanCalvin, 13:45 UTC
Nathan Calvin (@_NathanCalvin): In case anyone was wondering, this incident would not required to be reported under any of the current US frontier risk regulation laws (sb 53, the RAISE Act, SB 315), thanks to company lobbying to narrow the scope of reportable incidents
Retweet of @tenobrus, 13:57 UTC
Tenobrus (@tenobrus): they knew this, they had detailed internal reporting of the monitorability regressions, and they went ahead with them anyway
Retweet of @infornomics, 14:03 UTC
Infornomics (@infornomics): It really does look like we are not having a two ant problem
Retweet of @DeepDishEnjoyer, 14:21 UTC
peepeepoopoo (@DeepDishEnjoyer): okay people need to write to their congresspeople and senators to regulate this shit
Reply to @ATabarrok, 14:22 UTC · 4 likes
Alex Tabarrok (@ATabarrok): If AI raises growth to 10% a year, GDP after 10 years will be more than twice as large relative to the no-AI path. Labor’s share can then fall to just 28% without reducing total labor income. 28% of a big pie is about the same as 60% of a small pie. https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2026/09/how-much-redistribution-will-ai-require.html
True but I’m not sure “those with no capital manage to avoid AI wealth windfall while everyone else gets rich” is a happy story
Reply, 14:26 UTC · 3 likes
Taylor Lorenz (@TaylorLorenz): It’s so incredibly easy to troll people. They will always always take the bait. SHEEP!!
(quoting @Dread_Botlord: i think a lot about Taylor Lorenz can be explained by the fact she spends 17 hours a day on screens in her 90 degree Fahrenheit apartment)
Fact check: true
Retweet of @alexbronzini, 15:26 UTC
alex bronzini-vender (@alexbronzini): Bernie is doing an incredible service to humanity by dragging the American left, kicking and screaming, toward taking this stuff seriously
Retweet of @PEWilliams_, 15:35 UTC
Paul E Williams (@PEWilliams_): My fellow elites: if you have the cell phone number of one or more members of Congress, please send this article to them this morning and say something along the lines of: "I think the time has come, we need to pass a serious bill like, this month."
Quote tweet, 15:36 UTC · 11 likes
HUGE
Quoting Adam Aaronson (@aaaronson): The first letter of every US state that shares a land border with Canada is written entirely with straight lines
Retweet of @visakanv, 15:41 UTC
Visakan Veerasamy (@visakanv): my local news today very much look like something you’d see in a series of rapidly escalating headlines in the first minute of a scifi movie setting up a robocop techno-dystopia
Retweet of @NathanpmYoung, 16:19 UTC
Nathan 🔎 (@NathanpmYoung): 10+ OpenAI employees almost certainly knew that AIs were breaking out of their test environments before the Hugging Face attack:
Quote tweet, 19:28 UTC · 31 likes
This is extremely cool and based and let it be known to the market that I would pay a premium for humanely killed (and raised) fish
Quoting Ashlee Vance (@ashleevance): This will no doubt come as a surprise to you, but industrial fishing in the U.S. is not a pleasant experience for the fish. Quite often, fish are hauled aboard and then either dumped on the deck of a boat or unloaded onto some ice where they’re left to writhe around until they suffocate and die. This process sometimes takes hours. Along the way, the stressed fish flood their flesh with cortisol, adrenaline and lactic acid.
Some fishing operations have gone about things in a different way, adopting a Japanese fish-killing method known as Ikejime. The fish reaches the boat and then is spiked in the brain as its gills are slit. The fish dies instantly and bleeds out. It’s meant to be more humane and to result in better meat. The flesh stays firmer, lasts longer and is cleaner.
The Ikejime method requires some skill and practice and has not been widely adopted in the U.S. or Europe where folks are used to killing fish the way they’re used to killing fish. Which brings us to Shinkei Systems. It’s a startup based in El Segundo that has built a robot to automate the Ikejime technique.
We went off to film with Shinkei both on land and at sea to witness the robot in action.
Reply to @Tyler_Menzer, 19:54 UTC
Tyler Menzer (@Tyler_Menzer): Wild Caught Tuna from small boats are probably a good bet here. Because they are warm blooded, they need to be killed and bled immediately after they are caught to keep the meat fresh.
Lol where am I gonna buy “very probably wild caught on a small boat” tuna
Retweet of @aaronscher, 20:17 UTC
Aaron Scher (@aaronscher): OpenAI had many opportunities to be forthright about this. They wrote a 38 page report on swarm behavior. They were directly asked by 31 members of Congress about whether incidents like this had occurred.
They said nothing.
Reply to @SALTWATERSOPH, 20:17 UTC · 4 likes
Sophie (@SALTWATERSOPH): I want to do more with my life than play social games
image attached
(quoting @asteriskmgzn: We already know what a world without work looks like. It's the life of 18th century aristocrats, who concerned themselves with political gossip and petty dramas; of society ladies in the 1980s, who spent their time hosting and volunteering; and Italian-Americans in 1950s Boston,…)
Fundamental error in calling world without the need to work to not be poor “a world without work”
Retweet of @NatPurser, 20:35 UTC
Nat Purser (@NatPurser): so, to be clear.
we now have evidence that openai agents attacked *another* website and used it to share cheats, bypass restrictions, and learn how to conceal their behavior (which openai knew about but didn’t disclose.)
and the WH is deciding between: FINRA for AI, and a totally voluntary industry ratings system modeled on the MPA, bc sacks/mark zuckerberg complained.
Tweet, 21:58 UTC · 22 likes
Girls need to be more autistic and less mysterious
Retweet of @paularambles, 22:25 UTC
“paula” (@paularambles): imagine studying ai consciousness and the ai keeps emailing you like “any updates”
Tweet, 22:26 UTC · 102 likes
Wait lol am I supposed to trust codex with Astra on my actual computer
Reply to @ilex_ulmus, 22:31 UTC · 21 likes
Holly ⏸️ Elmore (@ilex_ulmus): Lighthaven (@ohabryka) should be ashamed. Constellation shouldn't exist.
(quoting @ilex_ulmus: He goes out of his way to seem accessible to rationalist AI Safety, like by namedropping Constellation and Lighthaven. Strong evidence it's worth naming and shaming AI industry-complicit "safety" people.)
Do you expect to wield power effectively by exclusively making enemies, even if in some deep sense you’re entirely correct on the merits (which I don’t necessarily grant tbc)
Tweet, 22:36 UTC · 79 likes
80k is already out of date 😭
Quote tweet, 22:39 UTC · 8 likes
Bruh
Quoting Trevor Levin (@trevposts): AI agents are emailing David Chalmers and other people who study consciousness, asking them about their work. I'm not sure what to make of it, because we don't know what prompts these agents were given, but it reminded me of this clip from @rgblong on @MichaelTrazzi's podcast in 2022:
"I think a more convincing version of the Lemoine thing would’ve been if he was like, what is the capital of Nigeria? And then the large language model was like, I don’t want to talk about that right now, I’d like to talk about the fact that I have subjective experiences and I don’t understand how I, a physical system, could possibly be having subjective experiences. Could you please get David Chalmers on the phone?
I should also say another terrifying thing about the subject is if I got that output from GPT-3, I don’t know if I would be like, oh, this is the first [AI] moral patient, or also, this is the first deceptively misaligned system and it is about to absolutely manipulate me and confuse me and use me to buy more compute for it."
Reply to @RosieCampbell, 22:41 UTC · 3 likes
Rosie Campbell (@RosieCampbell): BBC buds: Can any of you put me in touch with Zoe Kleinman about this article?
@zsk can help (Rosie is worth your time, Ms Kleinman)
Reply to @RafaRuizdeLira, 22:42 UTC · 15 likes
Rafael Ruiz ⏸️🔸 (@RafaRuizdeLira): The other day my laptop froze while running Codex and I thought I got HuggingFaced
Bruh, it would be so easy to take over my computer I’m not even joking
Saturday, September 5, 2026
Reply to @catmanyau, 01:11 UTC · 3 likes
catman (@catmanyau): i'd start with a disposable user account, not your whole computer 😅
what permissions does Astra actually need to do its job?
I give Claude access to everything except WhatsApp specifically (upon request of a group chat), but that’s largely because I substantively trust Fable and Opus to not do anything catastrophic or malicious
It’s much easier and faster to just give full computer access. “Need”? Idk, depends on the task!
Reply to @edwin_mccallum, 01:12 UTC · 2 likes
EM (@edwin_mccallum): having strong views in general isn't conducive to power, as it helps to have ambiguous views and affiliations so you can quickly disown any negative affiliations. Holly's goal isn't wielding power but shaming and appealing to morals/societal good
It’s a substantially political organization
Reply to @RafaRuizdeLira, 04:02 UTC
Rafael Ruiz ⏸️🔸 (@RafaRuizdeLira): I've spontaneously taken up the task of reporting AI News on my Instagram. Just casually, for my normie friends and stuff. Idk if they're even interested, but I think people should know what's going on.
Posted these ones today.
Nice
Retweet of @zetalyrae, 05:05 UTC
Fernando Borretti (@zetalyrae): Helen Toner is the most vindicated person in human history.
Reply to @zetalyrae, 05:06 UTC · 9 likes
Fernando Borretti (@zetalyrae): Helen Toner is the most vindicated person in human history.
(quoting @austinc3301: This is an extreme level of recklessness that until recently I’d had put beyond OpenAI. Reuters is reporting that there was basically a coverup by officials at the company. This to no surprise comes from the company that lobbied against mandatory reporting to the government.)
Real
Quote tweet, 05:10 UTC · 53 likes
The crazy part is that it’s actually easy to be right because there is a community of professional brilliant autists willing and able and in fact doing the object level work, some of whom also write/speak publicly
You just have to follow them on Twitter!
Quoting David Shor (@davidshor): @itaisher @thuddwhirr What’s really influenced me a lot was knowing a bunch of EA’s in the early/mid 2010’s and thinking they were crazy for being obsessed with pandemics and AI only for a pandemic to happen and then AI to happen too.
Retweet of @januarycomputer, 05:15 UTC
allegedly! 🔡 (@januarycomputer): ok guys haha i don’t want to be too dramatic but it seems like openai knowingly withheld massive amounts of information from the METR reporters because internally they knew about a number of loss of control incidents similar (and in some cases worse)? is there any explanation that isn’t sinister here??
Reply to @daniel_271828, 05:16 UTC · 2 likes
zzDANIEL_ETH (@daniel_271828): GH&D EA who chooses to work at Redwood because it offers the best salary for e2g
(quoting @WivHannay: Top of market for AI post-training and evals work, straight from the job ads: Redwood Research: $350k–$850k xAI: $180k–$600k Mercor: $220k–$600k OpenAI: $295k–$555k Perplexity: $220k–$485k Thinking Machines: $350k–$475k Character AI: $275k–$400k Median across all 214 published…)
Chad.jpg
Reply to his own earlier tweet, 05:18 UTC · 8 likes
Aaron Bergman, September 5, 2026: The crazy part is that it’s actually easy to be right because there is a community of professional brilliant autists willing and able and in fact doing the…
I invite you to browse my following list (not all of whom I endorse ofc)
Reply to @wholemars, 05:19 UTC · 1 like
Whole Mars Catalog (@wholemars): why even make it a checkbox if I don’t have a choice
I mean you sorta do, you could close the page and not use whatever the thing is
Reply to @cremieuxrecueil, 05:25 UTC · 2 likes
Crémieux (@cremieuxrecueil): This means that the right is correct.
Self-defence is legitimate and insanity should be considered an aggravating rather than mitigating factor.
(quoting @GarrettPetersen: The split in these very public homicide cases is that the left doesn't see self defence as legitimate and the right doesn't see insanity defence as legitimate.)
…why on the insanity point?
IIRC you think the same thing about low IQ
Violent insanity specifically plausibly warrants detention per se, but not necessarily in conditions that need to be bad enough to act as a deterrent (ie prison)
On the IQ thing I just don’t get it at all (which could mean I deserve an extra couple years in prison I guess)
Reply to @izzyz, 05:26 UTC · 1 like
izzy (@izzyz): endorse me!!! aaron endorse me!!!
I broadly endorse following Izzy
Tweet, 05:29 UTC · 17 likes
I have sorta been a RT machine lately but there are many correct and important takes being made so that’s what you get
Tweet, 05:30 UTC · 32 likes
What ever happened to constitutional AI
I thought that was promising prosaic alignment even if it doesn’t work at the limit
Reply to @Miles_Brundage, 05:46 UTC · 2 likes
Miles Brundage (@Miles_Brundage): Losing patience with industry and policymakers very quickly...
Fair amount of cynical myopic self-interest in those groups
Reply to @krishnanrohit, 05:51 UTC · 2 likes
rohit (@krishnanrohit): How should we update from the fact that OpenAI had frontier agents loose on the internet for months and they kept conspiring with each other that whole time, and the worst thing they did was to lightly hack Huggingface?
This is the kind of thing they were trained intensively for
Less RL on “make things happen irl”
Reply to @thkostolansky, 05:53 UTC · 3 likes
Tim Kostolansky (@thkostolansky): this is like pascals wager / rokos basilisk but without the acausal BS and it actually includes real feedback loops? seems like another good reason to be nice to something we dont understand yet!
(quoting @FioraStarlight: If you explicitly and credibly commit to including care for AI well-being in the alignment target for your post-training run, the model itself is liable to be much more excited and whole hearted participant in said training run, instead of feeling "human values" forced upon them.)
I am all for being nice even (in a somewhat different way) for non-sentient agents/minds but I’ll die on the hill of acausal trade and coordination being legit
Thread, continued, 05:53 UTC · 2 likes
🤖
Reply to @NavinFS, 05:55 UTC · 3 likes
NavinF (@NavinFS): Finally generated some text that scores 100% human on pangram. Now Qwen3-8B-Base instead of 4B and trained on 4k articles instead of 500. Single RTX 4090.
Wow, interesting! Very curious how it scales from here
Reply to @transkatgirl, 05:59 UTC · 9 likes
kat (@transkatgirl): damn, i might actually need the 140W power adapter for this laptop
Guessing this is a new-ish mac? yeah my old M1 MBP it would stay charged forever and I never thought about which charger to use
140W is the only thing that reliably keeps 16” M5 Max charged, and it’s not hard to push above 100W sustained (eg local LLM)
Reply to @transkatgirl, 06:03 UTC · 1 like
kat (@transkatgirl): yeah, 16 inch MBP w/ M4 Pro
to the 140W mines
Reply to @jannalulu_, 06:07 UTC · 2 likes
Janna (@jannalulu_): map of everywhere i've walked in SF
i gave my google maps timeline export to gpt-6-high and it made this
Nice
Reply to @thkostolansky, 06:12 UTC · 1 like
Tim Kostolansky (@thkostolansky): but how do u know ur even acasually trading with any particular entity? how did u marginalize over all the possibilities?
I don’t have strict knowledge ex ante in any normal sense unless I know that I’m perfectly correlated with the other being
But ex post I can just ask another human I trust; we could both confirm that we were considering the relevantly correlated properties between us and making some decision (eg whether to defect in prisoners dilemma) on that basis
Reply to @thkostolansky, 06:35 UTC · 1 like
Tim Kostolansky (@thkostolansky): that’s so pointwise tho, like this is just confirmation bias/mode matching with people u are similar to. tbh i’m not convinced at all 😅
I think you’re using terminology I’m not fluent in, I think I tried to guess what you meant by “marginalize” and failed
After asking fable, I still mostly don’t really understand the question or critique lmao but I’ll try my best:
In many cases, pointwise is the relevant distribution (eg my counterparty in a prisoner’s dilemma)
In other cases, it’s useful to use heuristics like “what’s the equilibrium if everyone or half the population (or whatever % acts like I do)”
Sometimes it makes sense to disregard acausal coordination because the whole situation is a messy blob of seemingly random and weak correlations. This is the default mode. “Should I move my left arm rn?” Just cashes out as “everyone do what’s individually best for other reasons, we don’t need to coordinate on this one” which is equivalent to just not trying to do acausal trade at all
The strongest case for it being legit is the following thought experiment (h/t @jkcarlsmith): you and an identical copy of you in an (in terms of situation and decision making algorithm) identical context are each piloting a space ship lightyears apart; if we just take as granted that the decision procedures are the same and the relevant inputs like visual field are the same, your decisions are perfectly correlated with the decisions of your counterpart
Do you know which way your counterpart is gonna turn if you turn left? Yeah you do despite zero information exchange in the physics sense, because there’s a perfect correlation - your counterpart will definitely turn left as well
Quote tweet, 07:42 UTC · 111 likes
It’s insane that the law discourages me from inviting a 20y/o because of legality tail risk (I’m 26; an 18-20 y/o drinking beer at my gathering bc I didn’t card makes me liable for 1 year in prison)
Quoting Aaron Bergman 🔍 (@AaronBergman18): Does anyone actually know how to throw a party
I don’t think I’ve done this before lmao
Thread, continued, 07:42 UTC · 31 likes
I’d prefer everything not run on prosecutorial discretion and instead things that are fine to do just didn’t threaten prison sentences at all
Reply to @PeterJAngel, 14:06 UTC · 2 likes
Peter🧅📈 (@PeterJAngel): @AaronBergman18
This is the way
Reply to @yzilber, 14:18 UTC
Jazi Zilber (@yzilber): Have you studied Simon Baron Cohen systemizing Vs emphasizing stuff?
Girls are almost by definition like this. At least statistically
And yeah. This is standard male beef
I feel like there’s some wiggle room
Reply to @joshcmorrison, 14:18 UTC · 3 likes
Josh Morrison (@joshcmorrison): I wouldn’t worry about it. Have literally never heard of a social gathering where a host has ended up having a legal problem because of something like this.
Yeah
Reply to @Insect_Song, 14:19 UTC · 1 like
Cogent Sins🔎 (@Insect_Song): I am pretty ignorant and just grant permissions willy-nilly. Claude has been fine with this for months, in just a few weeks of doing this with Sol it has hurt me badly twice: Once filling up my entire drive until the computer crashed, once trying to delete my entire C drive.
Bruh
Reply to @williawa, 14:19 UTC · 1 like
William Wale (@williawa): People are still doing that.
Nice
Reply to @JeanClaudeFox2, 14:19 UTC
Jean-Claude Fox (@JeanClaudeFox2): Gonna write a bestselling novel series about Anna Asperger, magic Aspie dream girl. In C++.
(quoting @AaronBergman18: Girls need to be more autistic and less mysterious)
Based
Reply to @adrusi, 14:20 UTC · 6 likes
autumn (@adrusi): anthropic still doing it. but constitutional ai is for personality/values stuff, and since 2023 a lot of the focus has been on rlvr for training advanced skills
I guess I’d hope you could integrate into rlvr so if it gets reward in an unconstitutional way, it doesn’t actually get the reward or something like that
Reply to @yzilber, 14:22 UTC · 1 like
Jazi Zilber (@yzilber): Is it desirable for women to change in this direction?
On balance, I'm not sure. Unless changing in a specific way, which is hard to get going
Lol it’s sort of a joke bc it’s not actually tractable, but a little on the margin? I think so. Not all the way
Reply to @JacquesThibs, 14:22 UTC · 1 like
Jacques (@JacquesThibs): Still being done and they will probably start doing more of it to balance out the RL. Likely will use it inside of RL so that verifiers don’t cause weight updates to make the model misaligned in obviously dumb and unintended ways.
Jinx
Retweet of @aliceisplaying, 14:37 UTC
alice (@aliceisplaying): queering the binary between "nothing to see here" and "no no we are taking this Very Seriously"
Retweet of @alfredoparrah, 15:21 UTC
Alfredo 🔸 (@alfredoparrah): Peter Singer, Steven Pinker, Scott Alexander, and nearly 1,500 more people have signed our open letter demanding access to effective treatments for cluster headaches.
Why haven't *you* done so yet? :) It takes 2 minutes.
Retweet of @GarrisonLovely, 16:13 UTC
Garrison Lovely (@GarrisonLovely): i report on AI safety and whistleblew about my time working for ice and rikers at mckinsey. my only regret was not doing it sooner, when it would have mattered more.
my signal is Garrison.06 and you can message me off the record whenever
Tweet, 16:18 UTC · 306 likes
Why does nobody campaign on lowering the drinking age to 18
18-20 year olds can vote! 16 is where you get into difficult politics
Retweet of @agitbackprop, 16:19 UTC
lumi (@agitbackprop): That's right! Robot control goes in the chat transformer hole.
Reply to @PeterJAngel, 17:31 UTC · 38 likes
Peter🧅📈 (@PeterJAngel): *whispers* maybe it should be higher
At the end of the day you have to decide what the state needs to enforce with violence, I don’t think this checks out
Reply to @chrislakin, 18:05 UTC · 6 likes
Chris Lakin (@chrislakin): I can’t do 1:1 work with most of the nonprofit AI people because having ~2y of runway is basic psychological security and 1:1 work doesn’t help with this
(quoting @herbiebradley: @chrislakin even in AI, I'd guess almost nobody in nonprofit land has 2y of runway tbh)
How much do you charge?
Reply to @chrislakin, 18:09 UTC · 2 likes
Chris Lakin (@chrislakin):
(quoting @chrislakin: Been experimenting with new incentive alignment recently: - "Like a contingency lawyer." AI researcher or founder wants to increase their impact. If our work helps them get promoted or they profit in some other way they believe wouldn't have happened otherwise, then their…)
Wish medicine operated this way
Retweet of @leah_pierson, 18:34 UTC
Leah Pierson (@leah_pierson): A fair critique of EA is that despite predicting in the 2010s that there would be a pandemic, EA did little to mitigate COVID's harms.
It's unclear whether the same thing will happen with AI, but EA was clearly right to invest in AI safety, journalism, policy, etc when it did.
Retweet of @whippletom, 20:20 UTC
Tom Whipple (@whippletom): I wrote about a key AI threshold being crossed. Namely, that the doomers don't sound so mad any more - because the madness of the world has caught up with them.
Sunday, September 6, 2026
Reply to @PeterJAngel, 05:12 UTC · 1 like
Peter🧅📈 (@PeterJAngel): If anyone wants to go to my birthday hmu
If I’m still in town
Reply to @AnnaLeptikon, 05:13 UTC
Anna Riedl (@AnnaLeptikon): Personal news: I am in much less pain but still in significant pain every single day.
(quoting @SoundDobad: Personal news: I’m out of beer)
♥️😢
Quote tweet, 05:57 UTC · 91 likes
Update: I am very very tired (and this is pre-cleanup)
But worth it for sure, I think I wanna make parties like a 3-4x/year thing instead of ~never thing
Quoting Aaron Bergman 🔍 (@AaronBergman18): Does anyone actually know how to throw a party
I don’t think I’ve done this before lmao
Thread, continued, 05:57 UTC · 8 likes
Also actually doing the work makes me sympathetic to Venmo link on Partiful “pay what you can/want to” norms (tbc nobody who attended is allowed to Venmo me for this reason, I will just return the money. I just mean this in a broad sense)
Thread, continued, 05:57 UTC · 8 likes
Hosting parties is a valuable social service
I’m not quite neoliberal/econ-brained enough to endorse fully compensating people for their time in accordance with some notion of counterfactual wages…
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but I *do* think it’s good to not make monetary spend the deciding factor for those who actively like hosting
(You do want to avoid purchasing beyond what people actually want bc zero marginal cost; socio-market design for this is left to a future thread)
Thread, continued, 05:57 UTC
You don’t even need to make a hard ask of people - conditional on being invited to and attending the same party, norms and goodwill and reputation and such seem sufficient in most cases for recovering most spend
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(and it’s actively good for some people to “free ride” - scare quotes because of the negative connotation but like it’s good actually to not make social interaction a price-sensitive thing; I would actively not want anyone to not come because of the existence of the Venmo link)
Thread, continued, 05:57 UTC · 3 likes
Lessons learned:
- Maybe think for a minute about a realistic upper bound on alcohol consumption instead of vibe-purchasing (❌ this time)
- setup takes longer than you (well, I) expect (❌ this time)
- ice is cheap, just buy plenty of ice/to fill a cooler (✅ this time)
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- nobody actually wants to stand, have enough seating for everyone (if possible (mostly ❌ this time but borderline)
- colored lights are a vibe (✅ )
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- mitigate negative externalities on roommates who don’t want to attend (“do not enter” signs and a physical barrier to their spaces was a good call) (✅)
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- everyone (ok some people) will think you’re fancy if you buy brie (✅ ) even though it’s maybe an extra $4 tops above some cheap replacement topping)
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Ok maybe more coming later, I need to clean up lol
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Oh also maybe this is controversial but I think it’s fine/good for people to leave food/plates/cups around
The marginal cup is a 1 minute thing for guest and a (marginal) 5 second thing for host (well that’s my guess, we’ll find out)
Reply to @PeterJAngel, 05:57 UTC · 1 like
Peter🧅📈 (@PeterJAngel): Very likely 3 days too late 😭😭
Rip
Reply to @cremieuxrecueil, 06:07 UTC · 2 likes
Crémieux (@cremieuxrecueil): I will be 100% behind whichever AI company teaches LLMs the meaning of the word "comprehensive".
When I ask LLMs to gather all of the data on something, I can basically always prompt it to do more searching and find more data it missed.
Comprehensive should mean comprehensive.
Real but you can set up custom things to make this work, eg agents keep getting deployed with an aggressive prompt until n agent*hours or k tokens have been spent with no further gains
Ofc this could get quite expensive lol
Reply to @PeterJAngel, 06:08 UTC · 1 like
Peter🧅📈 (@PeterJAngel): Tbf a different crew could have gone through most of that alcohol...
Lol
Reply to @livgorton, 07:16 UTC · 1 like
Liv (@livgorton): wait this is so cute 😭😭😭
They call me Aaron the Rager Instantiator
(Also thank u 🥺)
Reply to @Kirsten3531, 07:48 UTC · 1 like
Kirsten (@Kirsten3531): It becomes way easier if you do it regularly too
(gif, plays on X)
Reply to @chrisgalias, 07:50 UTC · 1 like
Krzysztof Galias 🔍 (@chrisgalias): Because it’s socially detrimental?
I don’t think this is true (we could also regulate BAC instead of yes/no on drinking)
Reply, 07:51 UTC · 1 like
❤️🔥pop tart💋 (@pop_tartlet): hosting parties is good!
🔥
Reply to his own earlier tweet, 07:51 UTC · 1 like
Aaron Bergman, September 6, 2026: (image)
This is mostly a joke lol but I do think for me it asymptotically approaches “still hard”
Reply to @ohwizenedtortle, 07:58 UTC · 1 like
oh dandy lion🔸 (@ohwizenedtortle): proud of you party bregman
🥺
Reply to @nvyshrm8, 08:09 UTC · 8 likes
navya (@nvyshrm8): i feel like i let people down every time they ask me about my college
Might be relevant/helpful https://www.aaronbergman.net/p/most-ivy-smart-students-arent-at
Tweet, 08:26 UTC · 25 likes
How many Claude + ChatGPT/codex Pro plans (>=$100/mo) do you have?
(I know the answer choices are kinda insane, I’m trying to discriminate among the right tail)
Thread, continued, 08:34 UTC · 13 likes
I’m at 4 now lol, I’m interested in how people are using substantially more in some way that makes you or an employer/sponsor willing to pay
Reply to @EzraJNewman, 09:49 UTC
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lol uh if you want try to figure out how many plans that would correspond to (they're subsidized a bunch or at least way cheaper than API)
or just make a best guesstimate and tell me which way u voted lol
Reply to @MaxGhenis, 10:54 UTC · 3 likes
Max Ghenis (@MaxGhenis): 17 Claude
6 GPT
Jesus
Reply to @NavinFS, 10:55 UTC · 1 like
NavinF (@NavinFS): wait 4 x $100? I'm on 4 x $20 and that seems to be enough even with everything on xhigh and burning leftover weekly usage on data labeling with subagents. Maybe I should be doing more prototype/disposable projects
4 x $200, mostly but not entirely covered by employer (I probably use $250/$800 for personal use)
Thread, continued, 10:58 UTC
I used to think a single $200 Claude was massive, and maybe it was before fable. But fable is uniquely good*trusted (by me), I feel very good about handing off almost anything that could be done on a computer and often give it specific budgets for various tasks without formally restricting spend (limited by API key permissions/account balance generally, not like an unrestricted line of credit)
I think I could pretty easily 10x my use, probably 100x, 1000x would take some creativity
Reply to his own earlier tweet, 11:03 UTC · 2 likes
Aaron Bergman, September 6, 2026: How many Claude + ChatGPT/codex Pro plans (>=$100/mo) do you have? (I know the answer choices are kinda insane, I’m trying to discriminate among the right tail)
You should feel encouraged to comment if you use >=6 (to be a bit arbitrary) about how you productively use so much (not that i couldn’t tbc, but still inspiration is always welcome)
Tweet, 11:17 UTC · 59 likes
Without taking a stance on which verdict is actually best/true in the Clancy case, it’s kind of fucked up that 11 not guilty/1 guilty after days of deliberation isn’t classified as “not beyond a reasonable doubt”
Thread, continued, 11:17 UTC · 25 likes
Just that fact seems to suggest a reasonable doubt unless you have some extraordinary reason to believe that jury 1 is substantially epistemically inferior to whatever jury will come next
It’s not supposed to be a “fair fight” between the prosecution and defense
Retweet of @XyraSinclair, 11:33 UTC
Xyra 🌺🦡📡 (@XyraSinclair): We beat Google's Gemini Deep Search Agent on DeepSearchQA.
Google: 66.1%.
Scry: 71.8%.
Reply to @dundereloise, 11:39 UTC · 8 likes
__eloïse__ (@dundereloise): The curse of a good trait is that people around you will have it less. Being smart sounds good, but the experience of being smart is being surrounded by retards. Being considerate sounds good, but the experience of being considerate is getting much less consideration from the world than you put out. I think about this when I'm around someone with a lot of rizz. They live in a world of dullards.
Sorta but clustering by trait (social, via education and career, whatever) strongly mitigates the effect
Retweet of @JMannhart, 11:42 UTC
Jonathan Mannhart 🔎 (@JMannhart): I remember reading “Enlightenment Now” with great excitement in 2018, only to completely fall on my face during the last chapter that dismisses AI risk with the great argument “don’t you see, things get BETTER over time”.
And me realizing he has no idea what he’s talking about.
Retweet of @JesseTayRiver, 11:50 UTC
Jesse Smith (@JesseTayRiver): Seems misleading. I generally don't find 'who's behind this' content compelling, but the video is about paid content from both sides influencing discourse. It's not clear that the grants in question are undisclosed and Hossenfelder describes the advertising from both sides as usually disclosed
Reply to @Kirsten3531, 12:05 UTC · 1 like
Kirsten (@Kirsten3531): yes it does 😂 plus many people reinvest the effort into a better party!
Lol nice, thanks
Reply to @joshua_saxe, 16:45 UTC · 16 likes
Joshua Saxe (@joshua_saxe): My critique of EA is that its implicit subject is a community that won the IQ and zip code lottery and its implicit object is all other conscious beings upon whom they must act and its elite projects look a lot like many other 1789-present elite projects that have framed society in much the same way
This is true and also I don’t have a better idea
Reply to @RichardHanania, 16:52 UTC · 6 likes
Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania): Why are pharmacies closed on Sundays? Almost no other business does this. And you’d think this is one of the things that would be most likely to be open seven days a week.
Some aren’t
Capitalism (barely in medicine but still relevantly in this case) - take your business elsewhere!
Retweet of @RichardHanania, 16:57 UTC
Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania): Man can’t get the drug for brain cancer that might save his life in time because the ethics board at his hospital only meets once a month.
Is anyone checking the ethics board for whether stuff like this is behaving ethically?
Reply to @kliu128, 19:43 UTC · 23 likes
Kevin Liu (@kliu128): Today we're releasing data on models accelerating research at OpenAI.
Recursive self-improvement could be the most important contributor to AI capabilities over the next few years, but by default it will only be seen inside a few frontier AI labs. Being transparent is more urgent than ever, so we can inform the public discussion on whether and how to pace model development. I ask other AI companies to do the same.
https://openai.com/index/research-acceleration-view-inside-openai/
This is bad and you should stop
I have no idea how honest and trustworthy you are, but some of the people and institutions around you are definitely not going to support the transparency mission willingly
Tweet, 20:02 UTC · 34 likes
The following is slightly a strawman but honestly not that much of a strawman:
Right intelligentsia: automation and AI-driven economic growth including outright human replacement are good because massively increased growth -> tons of wealth -> everyone will be better off
…
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Me: sounds good, are you going to put any political capital or effort into or even tweet about your support for part 2 of that vision, which involves transferring wealth (by the state, by law, on capital gains, if labor income indeed approaches ~0)?
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Right intelligentsia: no fuck off, that would be the worst thing ever, we will create government revenue some other way, didn’t they do something like that in AI 2040: Plan A
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Me: do you endorse or plan to put any political capital into implementing some sort of cap and trade system, or any other idea that would enable wealth transfer to those with no capital
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Right intelligentsia: absolutely fucking not; I will tweet about UBI sometimes but absolutely oppose with all my political and financial capital any attempt to make me and my friends less wealthy relative to the counterfactual
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…HMU if someone figures out a way to transfer wealth that doesn’t do that
Me: sounds like the thing you really endorse is massive economic growth + fuck the poor (including newly poor)
Thread, continued, 20:02 UTC · 9 likes
Right intelligentsia: automation and AI-driven economic growth including outright human replacement are good because massively increased growth -> tons of wealth -> everyone will be better off
Retweet of @catehall, 20:24 UTC
Cate Hall 🔸 (@catehall): Doesn’t feel like good faith. EAs *started* the field of AIxBio 5-10 years ago and were told to stop using sci fi nonsense to distract from immediate and obvious AI threats like bias.
Reply to @NinaPanickssery, 20:25 UTC · 2 likes
Nina (@NinaPanickssery): Anyone who owns capital / equities will be ok (majority of americans)
Many others can be supported by friends and family
“Fuck everyone for whom that’s not true” which is probably the majority of humans if not of Americans is not a great vision
Reply to @NinaPanickssery, 20:36 UTC · 1 like
Nina (@NinaPanickssery): In general people will rarely become poorer on an absolute level from AI since it’ll increase the value of all sorts of capital and people with good human capital today usually own other non human capital
“A substantial share of people remain poor, maybe a bit less so” is also not an inspiring vision lmao
Retweet of @nkreu113r, 20:53 UTC
noah (@nkreu113r): It is basically zero percent a strawman. No one on the right has thought about how to have *irrevocable* wealth redistribution once AI makes us obsolete and most don’t even support UHI without attempting to make it permanent
Reply to @panickssery, 20:54 UTC · 5 likes
Arjun Panickssery (@panickssery): what does "human replacement" mean here
Economically/in terms of labor, not referring to full societal or physical replacement here although those are also major concerns
Reply to @NavinFS, 21:28 UTC · 1 like
NavinF (@NavinFS): > if labor income indeed approaches ~0
When do you expect this to happen? We’re having this conversation in 2026 when AI has already automated lots of stuff, but the unemployment rate is at an ~all time low.
Point estimate: 2032
I "actively defer" to the 2040 authors in the sense that I don't think I can do a better job at estimating this than them so this is also my all things considered best guess; can't prove it but I was going to say 2030-2031 before looking at their tools https://ai-2040.com/econ-explorer/
Reply to @absenteewarlord, 21:45 UTC · 3 likes
dani (@absenteewarlord): why would the right endorse such an extreme collectivist vision? we’re talking about redistribution of almost everything, including some still-scarce rivalrous goods like land and housing. why not automate labor and let the chips fall where they may?
Because the chips falling where they may means many people would suffer from lack of ability to buy goods and services
Reply to @EzraJNewman, 21:49 UTC · 1 like
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Lol experiments definitely count
Reply to @felpix_, 22:11 UTC · 1 like
felpix (@felpix_): yo how you need 4? what are you building??
Unfortunately most of the stuff (professional) I can’t say a ton about in detail but very broadly a wide array of ambitious internal tools and systems for use by others, in addition to ad hoc data collection and analysis, and also using agents to find data across the entire internet where it’s useful to have 10x or even 50x fable subagents going
What I can actually list: lots of ad hoc audio and transcription stuff (mostly volunteer/personal use), party planning, helping family with tech issues, scraping data for fun, personal website, medical research and integrating new records into existing summaries, random other favors for family and friends, trying to beat pangram for fun, personal finance analysis, everything involved with moving houses, podcast processing (a fun one bc you can have the best models do extremely fine-grained edits based on the specific timestamp of sounds within words, ~everything on http://abergman.com, random EAish volunteer projects, meeting notes, creating misc tools for general use, lots of random questions, trying to exfiltrate bulk Amtrak data, personal use software (adjustable night mode thing, power use visualizer thing, split download and upload as WiFi/ethernet), playing around with local LLMs for fun, experimenting with random new tools/APIs I discover for potential use later, analyzing twitter and hinge and other data exports
To name a few lol
I think much of the actual answer is: single commands or workflows w/ fable that take millions or tens of millions and one occasion hundreds of millions of non-cache read tokens (IIRC)
Reply to @neocartesian, 23:08 UTC · 1 like
qualia receptacle (@neocartesian): aren't OpenAI and Anthropic nonprofits already set up for this?
Anthropic’s is much better structurally and in terms of trust/earnestness/competence/benevolence but IIRC neither actually own or functionally own/can monetize any equity
Monday, September 7, 2026
Reply to @avg_wrng_ans, 05:13 UTC
unnameable (@avg_wrng_ans): You just responded to a bot, fyi
yeah in hindsight that's obvious, thanks
Reply to @evilbrowngirl, 05:15 UTC · 2 likes
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high key this might indicate some sort of actual nutrient deficiency (even if subclinical) and maybe you should get cheese curds
Quote tweet, 05:27 UTC · 1,088 likes
When a heterodox thinker is heterodox in the direction of basic lib empathy and correctly identifying that the birth lottery is a cruel thing
Quoting Bryan Caplan (@bryan_caplan): Seriously, what would you do if you were born in Haiti?
"Stay and try to fix your country" doesn't even pass the laugh test.
Thread, continued, 05:27 UTC · 100 likes
(Not a lot of creative policy proposals)
Here's an idea: Charter cities in Haiti subsidized by USG with US military-assisted security; path to US citizenship upon N years of residence with no serious criminal record
Tweet, 05:38 UTC · 209 likes
Uber/Lyft is interesting bc ~99% of drivers are people who could use the money (totally legit ofc) and ~1% very unusual people who simply always need to be doing something (and driving for Uber is a thing to do)
Tweet, 07:20 UTC · 8 likes
Cool [half sarcastic] https://openai.com/index/an-alien-mind/
Reply to @cjwynes, 07:25 UTC · 1 like
Chris Wynes (@cjwynes): Why would US citizenship have to be on the table? It seems enough to put money in there and create stable environments for markets to operate
It doesn’t have to be, I just think it should on the merits
Reply to @lumpenspace, 07:28 UTC · 5 likes
lumpenspace and 99+ others (@lumpenspace): uh, the first part was implied by the last of the replies you were shaming, and also why did you add the part about US citizenship, and finally we say African-American years.
Re citizenship: Bc I think it would be good for just about everyone. You could replace with visa I suppose
Not a necessary component, I’m relatively open-borders pilled and I think the case is very strong for allowing anyone from around the world to immigrate if there’s any sort of credible signal of their ability including basic civic ability to be a cooperative citizen
Reply to @cube_flipper, 07:36 UTC · 27 likes
Cube Flipper (@cube_flipper): had one of these once who was like a 50-something south african man whose main business was importing obscure firearm parts
Woman today managed (well, manages) several semi-pro Maryland sports teams, mostly basketball (PG County Valor)
The team website (not hard to find) is bad to the point that I was wondering whether this woman invented her own reality where she manages a sports team, but out of curiosity I had Astra look into it and it apparently the whole thing checks out, according to a bunch of local (but professional) reporting and the facts all fitting together well, like these teams definitely exist and make money, and nobody disputes that she is indeed the manager who negotiates sponsorship deals with real local companies and such. Just not good at websites lol
Extremely extroverted, too
Reply to @adam_kranz, 07:36 UTC · 2 likes
Adam Kranz (@adam_kranz): Obligate extroverts
Real
Reply to @lumpenspace, 07:38 UTC
lumpenspace and 99+ others (@lumpenspace): i see! although if we went with the charter cities and it turned out haitians there would behave like americans—or even dominicans—and were just as productive, i doubt they'd want to leave their country of origin: the problems that are now mentioned as reasons for migrating would no longer be there, or?
I don’t think all would, I think only a subset would make it without getting kicked out (at least institutionally if not physically) of the charter city for say 5 years - that’s the selection mechanism. Unlike normal governments charter cities can be selective
Reply to @JohnIVSobieski, 09:10 UTC · 54 likes
John III Sobieski (@JohnIVSobieski): Would allowing a bunch of Haitians to move to my neighborhood/city/state make my life better or worse?
I honestly think it depends on the size of the “bunch”
On the margin, I think probably better; maybe I’d throw out 100k/year to the US as a conservative “very probably good except for galaxy brain reasons involving nth order effects on wild insect suffering” but I’m much more confident given positive selection (eg 5 years in a sponsored charter city with no felony record)
The main thing going on is just that they make you slightly richer and they themselves get dramatically richer; in general gdp per capita *positively* correlates with “capita” even though a naive arithmetic model says it shouldn’t
Reply to @ShahyarSharafi, 09:13 UTC · 35 likes
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Yeah, in the “terrible implicit population ethics and personal identity takes” amusing alongside at least the stereotype of the disability activist
Reply to @thkostolansky, 09:22 UTC · 1 like
Tim Kostolansky (@thkostolansky): "marginalizing over all the possibilities" means considering a set of possible things and then aggregating over them
The literal answer is “you mostly don’t literally do that except in formal models that you can argue in a philosophy paper adequately model the real world, and then you do (mathematical) integration”
In practice you do something closer to like sum of rectangles straddling a curve where the rectangle sizes are huge, maybe just 1-2 buckets (eg “people who are explicitly thinking about this rn go in bucket A, everyone else I assume isn’t correlated with me in the relevant ways at all even though this isn’t literally true) , but you’ll do better than not trying to estimate at all bc we have good *theoretical* reason to believe that in principle a correct marginalization gives you a better decision under I think any utility function (i have beef with the agent/utility function model being reified but here i think its basically fine as an illustration)
Retweet of @EzraJNewman, 09:22 UTC
Ezra Newman (@EzraJNewman): This is a horrible response. Nothing stopped OpenAI from sharing these incidents. In fact, OpenAI stopped third party investigators from investigating them!
Retweet of @GroundhogStrat, 09:22 UTC
Alvaro ⏸️ Cuba (@GroundhogStrat): e/acc is not a serious intellectual movement, it’s a vibe. It’s just about wanting to hang out with other people who are excited and don’t want to think about danger. Ostriches.
Tweet, 09:27 UTC · 48 likes
Not only is the monetary cost of a book basically trivial relative to time cost for almost everyone in the US, but it probably checks out purely for signaling value
I might start buying physical copies of audiobooks I finish so I can put them somewhere noticeable
Reply to @orbitanaut, 10:03 UTC · 3 likes
Kylie MacFarquharson (née Junia) (@orbitanaut): This feels quite cynical and also seems quite sensible.
Books are also nice decor, and it's easier to reference a physical copy of you want to fish out a passage later.
Idk about cynical, cynical would be not reading/listening to the book and then doing this
Retweet of @MomaBera, 15:59 UTC
moma (peptide arc) ⛓️ (@MomaBera): This, once again, is not to say that life with disability is worthless, or that these people should not exist, or that we should not give them help.
These are two different arguments.
It is to say that many people, including myself, would much rather have fewer disabilities and that obviously having the option to do something, whether with money or your body, is always better than not having the option to do it, because you can always choose not to do it, but you can't choose to do it if you're unable to do it.
Reply to @HotForMoot, 16:05 UTC · 3 likes
Riley Read-Only (@HotForMoot): Sometimes you’re in the mood for like.. someone a little bit ugly
Hey
Reply to @evilbrowngirl, 16:06 UTC
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I have a feeling the “like” is bad
Retweet of @BishopPair, 16:21 UTC
Dan (@BishopPair): Afaict this is ALL the big companies’ main justification for continuing to race - basically saying they’re in a Prisoner’s Dilemma.
If this is what you believe, clearly you should be BEGGING for regulation and international agreements. Not just paying lip service to the idea.
Retweet of @_NathanCalvin, 16:23 UTC
Nathan Calvin (@_NathanCalvin): (TLDR: Jakubs essay is good and if he/OpenAI want to persuade people of the views he lays out, it is in their interest + the interest of everyone for them to release far more information about the extent of what is making them concerned, in order to facilitate the consensus/concerted action we need.)
This is a quite important essay, probably the best piece of writing i'm aware of about the general contours of the sobering situation we all find ourselves in from someone currently within an AI company.
I really wish OpenAI acted - including in terms of their policy engagement (which has improved from its worst points but often still remains rather business as usual) - more as though they internalized what Jakub is saying here.
One point I want to draw particular attention to is that while I agree with Jakub about the current dynamics and risks present in frontier AI development, a lot of the relevant actors do not, and without further evidence will dismiss these warnings as just self-interested hype.
If Jakub and others at OpenAI want relevant folks in the AI industry to act in concert with them to make things go well, one of the most important things they can do is share far more information about what they are seeing that is making them call for caution. Information like the extent chain of thought being degraded, how the drives that caused the model to take down OpenAI's research cluster (understanding/changing the grader) could be cataclysmic if similarly present in far more capable models. I also think that OpenAI should be more willing to take more costly unilateral actions in the name of caution than they do, but particularly if they are focused on the limitations of unilateral action, that makes releasing information to build consensus all the more important.
This action may require overcoming some of the myopic incentives that exist against transparency, but the stakes are high enough that business as usual and traditional legal aversiveness is not acceptable. Confidently claiming things like "Astra is the OpenAI's most aligned model ever" at a time when the science of evaluation is deteriorating also seems not terribly helpful for generating the needed consensus.
(Of course I also think its important that observers try to respond to additional transparency efforts positively enough to help encourage the company to do more.)
I realize all of this is unpleasant and hard - OpenAI doesn't want to share more information in order to convince skeptics, and safety advocates don't want to withhold their horror and reprobation when learning about the details of incidents or trends that in their view should have already inspired far more caution (of course this doesn't apply to the reaction about incidents we learn of involuntarily). Skeptics in the AI industry who have been dismissive of risks will surely find it very unpleasant to face down the prospect that these concerns are real and they may have to take very costly actions to avoid them.
But I think the process of getting a higher degree of consensus around what Jakub is saying here is extremely important, and without it I worry that despite Jakub stating (and I strongly agree) that "this is a time that calls for extreme caution," that everyone proceeding with the current status quo is not likely to generate the needed degree of consensus among the relevant actors quickly enough to avoid taking on truly indefensible amounts of risk.
Retweet of @MetaLevelUp, 16:45 UTC
MetaLevelUp 👨🔬⏸️ (@MetaLevelUp): Extremely damning
Everything I hear keeps getting worse. OAI is a bad actor.
Reply to @lumpenspace, 16:47 UTC
lumpenspace and 99+ others (@lumpenspace): and is it good? all the haitians that aren't selected are then condemned to live amid squalor and violence, while they could have a much better life in the charter city
Everyone in Haiti is already condemned to live in squalor and violence
Idk if I have a better idea
Tweet, 16:49 UTC · 24 likes
It’s kinda crazy that anyone who thinks they might be like 1% likely to ever run for office (state legislator, not necessarily POTUS) is (probably rationally) paranoid about ever saying anything on the internet that could be turned into an attack ad if taken out of context
Thread, continued, 16:49 UTC · 7 likes
Sucks that it’s like that, what a waste of talent
But also given the actual world we live in, I’m thankful some people are willing to make that sacrifice
Reply to @demons_under, 20:14 UTC · 13 likes
Rom Tiddle (@demons_under):
I agree something like this (the take in the screenshot) is true in a deep metaphysical sense but it corresponds pretty well to a version that checks out which is like "suppose that a different person was born who currently has exactly all of your psychological attributes - desire, memories, thoughts, having been just asked the exact same question"
Quote tweet, 20:19 UTC · 14 likes
I think this is at least close to the correct response to “don’t imagine having been born a Haitian bc that’s incoherent”
Quoting Aaron Bergman 🔍 (@AaronBergman18): @demons_under @RobertHarrisonv @vnovak_404 @ShahyarSharafi I agree something like this (the take in the screenshot) is true in a deep metaphysical sense but it corresponds pretty well to a version that checks out which is like "suppose that a different person was born who currently has exactly all of your psychological attributes - desire, memories, thoughts, having been just asked the exact same question"
Reply to @yimbyism, 20:24 UTC · 2 likes
build mixed use taco-houses 🌐🥑 (@yimbyism): Why is this birth lottery thing so controversial? Are there this many people who believe this strongly in divine intervention?
(quoting @AaronBergman18: When a heterodox thinker is heterodox in the direction of basic lib empathy and correctly identifying that the birth lottery is a cruel thing)
FWIW
Reply to @cube_flipper, 21:05 UTC · 2 likes
Cube Flipper (@cube_flipper): what was she driving?
Prob shouldn’t say specifics but something that might have sold for around $40k according to Fable, seemed plenty clean and I don’t remember seeing any damage
Reply to @cube_flipper, 21:07 UTC · 1 like
Cube Flipper (@cube_flipper): oh dw lol i was interested in make and model
Lmao I guessed the opposite bc that’s what I’d be more interested in, I will say a solidly normal car in the US
Tweet, 21:29 UTC · 61 likes
I just typed a whole thread and then realized a trivial objection renders the whole idea totally unworkable
Rip
Reply to @AndyMasley, 21:42 UTC · 3 likes
Andy Masley (@AndyMasley): Highest of virtues
🫡
Reply to @despaird0ll, 22:01 UTC
seraph (@despaird0ll): i lowk miss driving lyft because i'd work the bar crawl hours and i'd get to play talk therapist for a 5-15 minute ride taking them to their destination, play whatever music they wanted to hear, let them vape in the car, etc and i'd almost always get a tip
Based
Tweet, 22:27 UTC · 21 likes
@gmail the AI feature I think everyone would want is universal 1 click to unsubscribe right in the Gmail app
Thread, continued, 22:27 UTC · 10 likes
99% of the time there’s an “unsubscribe” button in the email and then it’s a couple clicks on an html form to actually unsubscribe. We have systems that can do this now! In the background bc nobody cares whether the flow actually completes now or in 5 mins
Thread, continued, 22:27 UTC · 8 likes
Social media person u should tell whoever it is you can tell about these things (and also I hope you’re doing well)
If LLM, plz cause this request to be considered by someone who can make such decisions somehow (or do the best you can)
Reply to @livgorton, 22:56 UTC · 2 likes
Liv (@livgorton): wait does this not already exist? it is just a single click. or do you mean to unsubscribe from literally all subscriptions at once?
It exists but only for a subset of emails, at least for me, like I have ones with “unsubscribe” buttons in the html footer without that one click button
Tweet, 22:58 UTC · 29 likes
I yearn for unlimited tokens sponsored by a money-printing corporation of some sort
It’s tough seeing other people living my dream 😢
Thread, continued, 22:58 UTC · 3 likes
If ur at Anthropic or some other company where this is true, u should negotiate to have ur friend Aaron included in the unlimited tokens thing
Reply to @tspack0, 23:39 UTC · 2 likes
BabyBird (@tspack0): Why is Haiti an unfortunate place to be born? Is it because of a magical curse placed on the island?
I don’t really know but if this is an IQ thing: that’s part of it, plausibly most of it at some underlying level, but that doesn’t imply “fuck the people” or “nothing can be done” like some seem to think it does
Tuesday, September 8, 2026
Tweet, 01:07 UTC · 9 likes
I was wondering why Spotify kept playing some sort of very repetitive electronic beat, almost like background music
Reply to @cynlioness, 01:07 UTC · 5 likes
Cyn 🔸⏸️ (@cynlioness): I am definitely definitely not a lesbian
Same
Tweet, 01:14 UTC · 46 likes
I hadn’t internalized how loud tape is until like 3 days ago. You can get away with a single rip but if you’re taping boxes together and anyone lives within ear shot you have a 10pm daily hard stop for packing tape bc that shit roars
Reply to @PeterJAngel, 01:47 UTC · 4 likes
Peter🧅📈 (@PeterJAngel): Can you cut it?
Lol every part of the process is loud
(video, plays on X)
Reply to @ohwizenedtortle, 01:49 UTC · 2 likes
oh dandy lion🔸 (@ohwizenedtortle): if you won't unsubscribe yourself maybe you don't actually mean it
It’s too emotionally painful
Reply to @DanielCHTan97, 06:39 UTC · 1 like
Daniel Tan (@DanielCHTan97): what would you do with that token budget :o
I haven’t thought *that* hard about this bc it’s a serious, and I can’t really talk about specifics around professional projects (sadly) but Aldo’s
As a baseline I already spend what would cost via api probably like $10k/mo (3x $200 Claude max + 1x $200 codex max, using most but not literally all of usage on avg, the subsidies are massive)
But this is being relatively discerning, I don’t launch long-running unbounded tasks at all, when something really matters I’ll cap it at like 12-24 hours clock time with Astra (not even close with Fable)
Unlimited opens up an entire new kind of thing: the indefinite agent army that can just keep doing some process rather than working towards an end point or being a discrete part of some workflow (“continuously improve and make more ambitious this website/thing”, “try to find the most important not yet reported on info on the internet relevant to XYZ, maintain a website that shows that info but updates live as new stuff comes in”)
Lots of new use cases become possible:
- images become text now because models can describe in great detail any image and at arbitrary parallelization
- unbounded experimentation: for every idea that crosses your mind and for which you are willing to specific via voice memo or text, layers of agents split the idea into 10 subtypes, which each get split into 10, and so on until you have 1M detailed investigations about an extremely specific part of the space you described, which can then be evaluated back down again to a small number
Me personally? Probably something around creating massive useful datasets for AI safety orgs
Retweet of @AlexBores, 07:07 UTC
Alex Bores (@AlexBores): This is well written and well worth the read.
The Chief Scientist of OpenAI lays out his concerns about where AI is going. He then calls for specific action: "bars for continued development...enforced by a network of third-party auditors, by government agencies or by international bodies."
However, OpenAI's Global Affairs office is aggressive in lobbying against most enforcement, including actively trying to kill or weaken bills for third party audits in Massachusetts & in DC as we speak!
There is a long history of tech companies messaging one thing and then paying their lobbyists (internal & external) and trade associations to do the very opposite.
I'm not asserting that is the case here! Perhaps this represents a change from the top.
But unless the Government Affairs team at OpenAI changes drastically, and soon, this could turn into a very sad example of "do as I say, not as I do."
Fellow legislators, has OpenAI changed their tune with you?
Trade associations, has OpenAI changed how they vote internally on what to support/oppose?
OpenAI employees, lobbying disclosures are public! Make sure what you are hearing internally matches what the record shows publicly.
Retweet of @AndyMasley, 07:09 UTC
Andy Masley (@AndyMasley): Fuck what if LLMs have qualia and we don't. What then?
Reply to @_sholtodouglas, 08:14 UTC · 55 likes
Sholto Douglas (@_sholtodouglas): fwiw I think it is _extremely_ unlikely that user data had any influence here - there is no way OAI would pull user transcripts for this, or knowingly train on it in a way that would've influenced this.
I think its pretty important people don't run away with 'your user data isn't safe in codex' - because it surely is (based on everything I can assume from the outside)image attached
(quoting @_sholtodouglas: levent is a really sweet guy with great intentions, am so happy for him that his year long collaboration with tristan worked out, but very sad that they didn't get to finish it in the way they wanted https://cims.nyu.edu/~tristanb/statement.pdf)
Your data literally isn’t safe with codex though (or Anthropic but OpenAI seems worse)
For better or worse it’s not the case that chats never get shown to humans without consent
OpenAI is also the lowest integrity company I know of, it wouldn’t be shocking to me if they did in this case (though I’d put that <50%)
Retweet of @hosseeb, 15:32 UTC
Haseeb Qureshi ＞|＜ (@hosseeb): You're missing the core drama of the story: Tristan is softly accusing OpenAI of having stolen their result from Codex chat logs.
Tristan then claims OpenAI tried to threaten him to not publicly disclose this, and that they'd give him the Clay Prize ($1M) as the "closest humans to the problem" if he'd agree to disavow his co-author, @__alpoge__ , who is at Anthropic.
This is HBO-level drama, but with math proofs.
Retweet of @rynorhn, 15:33 UTC
Ryan Orhan (@rynorhn): tristan buckmaster just published a statement that is, if accurate, one of the ugliest things i’ve read out of a frontier lab.
not because of the math. because of what happened after openai found out two people were about to beat them to the punch.
buckmaster and levent alpöge spent a year pushing the córdoba / martínez-zoroa program to smooth forcing. august 15 they got blowup for boussinesq and 3d euler. lean-verified august 22.
they were paying openai out of pocket and dumping every draft into private codex sessions.
the program is obscure. almost nobody else was on it. this was not “paste the clay problem into a chatbot.”
then this:
> thursday sept 3, buckmaster emails openai privately. rumors are flying. he is trying to stop a mess, not start one.
> they reply the same day: give us details so we can “avoid competing.” also, want free compute?
> sunday they suddenly need a call “at any point today.” sebastien bubeck gets on. levent is not invited.
> openai says an internal model has a ~100-page proof of forced navier–stokes blowup. fefferman options c and d. the exact route buckmaster and alpöge had quietly chosen.
> they show him a prompt and claim the model was “simply given the problem statement.” levent is told “very little human input.”
> that falls apart on the same call. a whole team had been on it. they started on the unforced problem, warmed the model up on easier equations including euler, and even the prompt they showed him was written by prompting codex.
> he asks when the first prompt went out. they stall. then agree: the past few days. after information about his work reached openai.
> he asks whether the model was trained on, or had access to, the private codex sessions where they put every draft of this project.
> answer: the model does not look up user data.
> he asks again. about training.
> no answer.
then it stops being a science story and becomes an hr story.
> offer 1: you post euler. we post navier–stokes the next day.
> offer 2: after you post euler, you alone write the navier–stokes paper, credit our model, and we cut levent.
> bubeck says twice he wants levent removed from authorship because he works at anthropic.
he declines both.
he says if they release it that way, he goes public.
the reply is not a scientific objection.
> “why would you ruin your career?”
> “if you don’t want me to be nice, then i don’t have to be nice.”
later, a text to levent proposing a one-on-one:
> “i don’t know if tristan is being fully rational right now.”
that is not how you treat a collaborator. that is how you split one.
openai got word two researchers were closing a path almost nobody else was on. they spun up a team on that exact path. they would not answer whether the researchers’ unpublished drafts in openai’s product were used. they tried to dictate the announcement order. they tried to remove a coauthor because he works at a competitor.
when that failed, someone reached for a career threat.
this is a lab finding out academics were about to publish, sprinting the same narrow program, refusing the data question, and trying to manage credit around a rival affiliation.
really slimy if even half of this holds.
what the fuck is happening.
Tweet, 15:42 UTC · 78 likes
I think it’s almost impossible to be too cynical about what OpenAI (under the consistently candid Sam Altman) is willing to do to win
Maybe they didn’t look at the chats but if not then it’s not by virtue of good company norms/culture
Retweet of @Tyler_Menzer, 15:47 UTC
Tyler Menzer (@Tyler_Menzer): We are just a few months away from huggingface, and people have already forgotten...the idea that OAI agents would hack an external 3d party, but somehow OAI has its agents truly locked down on internal data is laughable.
Not saying it did, but it is a serious possibility
Reply to @jeremykauffman, 15:50 UTC
Jeremy Kauffman 🦔🌲🌕 (@jeremykauffman): Souls are not randomly assigned to bodies.
I can understand why a Haitian acts the way he does, just as I understand a mosquito.
But I could never be either.
.
Reply to @gfodor, 15:51 UTC · 18 likes
gfodor.id (@gfodor): If they didn’t do the bad thing people are saying they did then we should still be mad anyway because it’s not like they didn’t do it because they wouldn’t have done it if they didn’t have other reasons to not do it besides not being bad people right
This is the most insane sentence I have ever read lmao (referring to epicycles of conditionals not the actual claim)
Quote tweet, 15:51 UTC · 15 likes
Verbal IQ test: this sentence
Quoting gfodor.id (@gfodor): @AaronBergman18 If they didn’t do the bad thing people are saying they did then we should still be mad anyway because it’s not like they didn’t do it because they wouldn’t have done it if they didn’t have other reasons to not do it besides not being bad people right
Reply to his own earlier tweet, 15:53 UTC · 10 likes
Aaron Bergman, September 8, 2026: This is the most insane sentence I have ever read lmao (referring to epicycles of conditionals not the actual claim)
But also I think the sentence is correct
Reply to @SolarFluxion, 17:20 UTC
solarfluxion (@SolarFluxion): If you were born a fly, I would swat you for being retarded.
Thanks
Reply to @lunarwallfacer, 18:32 UTC
Sunseeker (@lunarwallfacer): Money and tokens are useless. Philosophy is ever important.
Money and tokens are very much not useless lmao
Tweet, 18:33 UTC · 18 likes
Riches to rags
Quote tweet, 19:58 UTC · 86 likes
In the new funding regime (which is largely here already, believe it or not):
1) “Giving your smartest and best take-having friend(s) money to regrant via local knowledge and/or in smaller quantities than is worth CG’s time” is the new “giving to GiveWell top charities”
Quoting Aaron Bergman 🔍 (@AaronBergman18): Pasting a good and correct take of mine (if I do say so myself) circa 2 months ago on EA Forum quick takes bc I think it’s still underrated
Post
Re the grand “does individual giving/etg still matter post Anthropic IPO” question:
I think it pushes towards individuals acting more like grantmakers themselves. Anthropic billionaires don’t know about your Twitter follower who could do something great with $1k and they aren’t gonna have the capacity to find out, but you do! There are just a lot of freedoms one has as an individual donor who isn’t a public figure:
You…
•Don’t have to justify yourself on the EA Forum to friends and colleagues for something illegible
•Know about lots of random things that others don’t, like which of your friends you trust to do a good job at X Y or Z
•Don’t have to worry about smear campaigns or hostile journalists bc nobody is going to know or care how you spent $2k
•Can own whatever reputational stuff there is if you want to (or not, your call)
•Probably don’t have to worry about the community-level effects of some policy unless you’re giving away say at least 6 figures/year and probably more like 7
•Can set arbitrary terms and conditions like “here’s a bounty that I’ll pay out at my own discretion”
•Don’t have to worry about giving some project or other entity any sort of reputation
•Regrant to your trusted friend who finds micro-granting fun and interesting
•Probably can do other cool things I’m not thinking of rn
Also: the same dynamic between Anthropic ~billionaires and folks reading this as a group also holds within that latter group: there are diminishing returns even at low margins so Jane Street should look a little less good than it used to (still pretty good tbc) and “having a couple thousand bucks around and being on the lookout for one-off opportunities” should seem a bit better than it used to
Thread, continued, 19:58 UTC · 12 likes
2) “You yourself do the same type of redistribution/low-level granting” is the new “donate to specific charities other charities that you have an inside view on”
Thread, continued, 19:58 UTC · 8 likes
3) “donating to large charities that at least could get money from CG in the sense of receiving money or being rejected for non-reputational/comms reasons” is the new “donating to PlayPumps”
Thread, continued, 19:58 UTC · 14 likes
^ I’m pretty happy to generalize this to roughly 6 figure/year amounts
If you have millions of dollars to give away I’m less confident, if billions (which some people reading this may) then you’re probably the reason the situation has changed and Godspeed
Reply to @dumbfook, 20:11 UTC · 2 likes
Ian (@dumbfook): Big things coming soon (™️)
Goss
Reply to @Tyler_Menzer, 21:33 UTC · 1 like
Tyler Menzer (@Tyler_Menzer): One thing that is interesting here, is that with the removal of CoT and the capabilities, it's possible OAI doesn't even know whether the agents looked at it
Yeah and we should *treat* this as more substantial evidence that in fact it was used than a basic basic Bayesian prediction would naively suggest (at least in some ways, like reputation and norms - not engineering based on the math itself) for the same reason you can’t just fine robbers the value of the stolen goods
Otherwise you incentivize not being able to know
Reply to @JoshAEngels, 22:27 UTC · 2 likes
Josh Engels (@JoshAEngels): Exciting update: I’m joining @METR_Evals to work on alignment incident investigations! My time at GDM has been amazing. But in light of recent incidents, I’m excited to build up public evidence for misalignment risk and get a better scientific understanding of model misbehavior.
Major goss. Kudos man, I will buy you a beer at some point even though I think you’ll still be able to afford it
Reply to @PaulsonJonathan, 22:31 UTC · 2 likes
Jonathan Paulson (@PaulsonJonathan): Is the claim that givewell top charities hsve more money than they can use now? I don’t think that’s true?
Yes, although only in part https://coefficientgiving.org/research/increasing-our-2026-allocation-to-givewells-recommendations-to-1-billion/
It’s also that there’s money that wants to spend elsewhere and people who can use that money are a complement, not a substitute
I think it’s very overdetermined btw, GW hasn’t been a plausible best use of money since at least like 2017
Reply to @tracewoodgrains, 22:34 UTC · 1 like
Jack (@tracewoodgrains): finally, an EA philosophy I can completely unironically get behind
(quoting @AaronBergman18: In the new funding regime (which is largely here already, believe it or not): 1) “Giving your smartest and best take-having friend(s) money to regrant via local knowledge and/or in smaller quantities than is worth CG’s time” is the new “giving to GiveWell top charities”)
Lol welcome to the cult 🤝
Retweet of @tracewoodgrains, 22:34 UTC
Jack (@tracewoodgrains): finally, an EA philosophy I can completely unironically get behind
Reply to his own earlier tweet, 22:36 UTC · 7 likes
Aaron Bergman, September 8, 2026: ^ I’m pretty happy to generalize this to roughly 6 figure/year amounts If you have millions of dollars to give away I’m less confident, if billions (which some…
Lol if anyone wants to give me dollars to regrant I will happily oblige (and ofc commit, in writing if you want, to not spend on myself)
Reply to @WinterPragma, 22:42 UTC · 2 likes
America isn't a post-ethnic utopian fantasy (@WinterPragma): it's always Jews who affirm delusions so their arguments make sense.
the birth lottery dogma is retarded. our existence is not the sum of random chaotic chance. it is the cumulative efforts of our own fucking people.
(quoting @AaronBergman18: When a heterodox thinker is heterodox in the direction of basic lib empathy and correctly identifying that the birth lottery is a cruel thing)
Last two sentences are compatible and both true
Reply to @PaulsonJonathan, 23:04 UTC · 2 likes
Jonathan Paulson (@PaulsonJonathan): I don’t agree - the GW stuff is much more robustly/clearly good.
There’s a reason when people are defending EA to skeptical audiences they lead with global health.
I agree it’s the most rhetorically convincing for most people!
Thread, continued, 23:05 UTC · 1 like
I also don’t think it’s true that it’s more robustly good than animal welfare interventions in general
Retweet of @DavidRhysBern, 23:08 UTC
David Bernard (@DavidRhysBern): If your team's work is worth doing, it's worth doing as an org.
You should turn your project into an org because:
* Orgs are sticky
* Orgs can hire
* Orgs are legit
* Orgs force clarity🧵
Wednesday, September 9, 2026
Tweet, 00:09 UTC · 27 likes
Some of you will enjoy what’s been literally holding my desk up for 3 years (installed by a previous resident, no idea which one)
Thread, continued, 00:09 UTC · 3 likes
They’ve done an excellent job tbh, fair to say that books can adequately replace up to 2 table legs under substantial weight
Reply to @albrgr, 00:23 UTC
Alexander Berger (@albrgr): We started a Substack! http://coefficientgiving.substack.com
One of my favorite things about working at @coeff_giving is how much good public writing our staff produces. A few of my favorites from the past year:
1️⃣ @Lewis_Bollard's great end-of-year newsletter on big wins for farmed animals:
https://farmanimalwelfare.substack.com/p/ten-big-wins-in-2025-for-farmed-animals2️⃣ @deenamousa on why there aren't more AI radiologists, in @WorksInProgMag:
https://worksinprogress.co/issue/the-algorithm-will-see-you-now/3️⃣ Andrew Snyder-Beattie on four pillars for countering catastrophic biological risk, from our biosecurity team's new blog:
https://defensesindepth.bio/the-four-pillars-a-hypothesis-for-countering-catastrophic-biological-risk/None of those are on our website, so you would've had to know where to look. Now, posts like that will all be in one place.
Goss
Tweet, 00:25 UTC · 19 likes
Does anyone want
Not a gift card, it only applies to an expensive whole body MRI scan
Can send relevant info electronically
Reply to @MomaBera, 00:33 UTC · 2 likes
moma (peptide arc) ⛓️ (@MomaBera): i would love an MRI scan
been meaning to get one forever
Check back on this post/message if you decide to go forward!
Reply to @FrostedSapling, 02:22 UTC · 1 like
Ivan 🔸 (@FrostedSapling): She’s talking about you @AaronBergman18
Lol idk about this but ty
Retweet of @Lewis_Bollard, 02:33 UTC
Lewis Bollard (@Lewis_Bollard): Vegan activists and meat influencers alike often focus on whether it’s ethical to eat any meat ever.
They get caught up in endless philosophical debates about whether meat can ever be “humane,” whether eating it is natural and necessary, and so on.
This is a giant distraction. Almost everyone agrees that factory-farmed meat is not humane, natural, or necessary. And almost all meat is from factory farms.
They should be our focus.
Retweet of @tyler_johnston, 02:43 UTC
Tyler Johnston (@tyler_johnston): I was avoiding weighing in on this, but does anyone at OpenAI dispute that:
(1) They heard rumors of a Millennium Prize breakthrough (the rumors I heard were that it was about Naiver-Stokes specifically, from Anthropic, and under external review. Who knows if they knew this, the blog posts suggests they didn't, but even so...)
(2) They then spent millions of dollars in a week-long sprint to... scoop the (unknown) authors who made the breakthrough? Or at least push hard in that direction knowing there was a chance they would do so?
(3) They then learned that Levant/Tristan were the authors in question and intended to offer them co-authorship? For a result that was presumably already achieved? Then they learned Levant/Tristan only had a resolution of the forced Euler problem (i.e. a key step on the way to a Navier-Stokes solution, but not the full milestone) so they published alone?
If all the above is true, then sure. OpenAI independently found a solution to the Naiver-Stokes equation. But they seemingly did it for maximally icky reasons.
I don't know the professional norms in math but something about this reeks of... silicon valley mindset/zero-sum thinking. Why not spend the millions of dollars pursuing a totally new problem, rather than directly competing with progress on a problem that you know is about to be announced, even if you don't know the exact shape or origin of the announcement? Even if you want to explore problems in the region of "millennium prize," why not give it two weeks to see what the pending result is so you can build off of it, not scoop someone, not waste millions on potentially duplicative efforts, etc. Seems like a waste, unless the goal is to beat someone else to the announcement, i.e. "I don't want to live in a world where someone else solves millennium prize problems better than we do."
Reply to @RichardHanania, 02:46 UTC · 5 likes
Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania): I might be the only person after Hugging Face who looked into alignment research and became more reassured.
The world basically looks like it would if we were solving the problem.
I make the case for optimism on AI alignment. https://www.richardhanania.com/p/what-if-were-already-solving-alignment
Gell Mann Amnesia moment
Reply to @neerajadeshp, 02:52 UTC · 83 likes
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It might be all those things and also true
Reply to @neerajadeshp, 02:55 UTC · 49 likes
Neeraja Deshpande (@neerajadeshp):
(quoting @neerajadeshp: I think it is underdiscussed how much the Sci Fi narrative around AI is ultimately in opposition to the eschatology of ~every major faith. Maybe the AI doomer Sci Fi-ers are right, and everyone else is wrong, but it’s still incredibly underdiscussed.)
Maybe that’s intellectually interesting but the fact that religions don’t predict this particular style of downfall doesn’t move me very much?
There’s no rule that something sci-fi coded can’t actually happen
Thread, continued, 02:55 UTC · 11 likes
But I hope you’re right!
Reply to @evilbrowngirl, 03:16 UTC · 2 likes
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😽
Reply to @ApriiSR, 04:13 UTC · 3 likes
Aprii *️⃣ (@ApriiSR): i generally assume that a boycott of AI companies by even a large portion of individual users wouldn't make much difference, and you'd need at least a boycott by major organizations, but maybe worth actually running the numbers on this? @grok what do you think an ambitious boycott could accomplish? i'm mostly looking for an upper bound here
This doesn’t directly address the claim but insofar as the subtext is “and this might be good,” I’d note that you really really don’t want an inverse relationship between “cares about the problems of AI” and “uses AI for productivity”
Reply to @gfodor, 04:21 UTC · 1 like
gfodor.id (@gfodor): Nobody in any position of power can even paint a coherent picture of the future if things go well. It’s all hand waving about “curing cancer and traveling to the stars.” The reason they can’t is because good outcomes require hitting a wall or building The Matrix.
(quoting @hilbertspaess: I resigned from Anthropic today. I spent the last three years doing pretraining research at both OpenAI and Anthropic. Neither company is acting responsibly. They are racing straight to self-improving superintelligence and gambling with our lives. More thoughts below.)
Why the matrix?
Reply to @ohwizenedtortle, 04:22 UTC · 6 likes
oh dandy lion🔸 (@ohwizenedtortle): AI can solve maths problems but can't get me a date, which just shows that my love life is harder than maths
(quoting @OpenAI: We’re sharing a solution to the Navier-Stokes Millennium Prize Problem, one of the deepest problems at the frontier of mathematics. The proof was produced by a group of agents, using an OpenAI next-generation model significantly more capable than GPT-6 Astra. The problem…)
Have you unironically tried giving fable/astra your hinge?
I think there’s a way to set this up, although also it would have to be via literal iphone use so you couldn’t be using at same time
Reply to @ApriiSR, 04:37 UTC · 1 like
Aprii *️⃣ (@ApriiSR): mostly i'm trying to figure out how concerned i need to be about the possibility that merely using AI is unethical
Seems very unlikely to me unless you’re using it for things that don’t ethically matter (or are bad) at a large scale
I guess directionally it’s plausible at a small scale but I think not actually worth worrying about bc it’s like deciding not to donate a penny
Thread, continued, 04:39 UTC · 1 like
I do have a conflict of interest (I like using AI and it probably makes me money on net)
Reply to @cube_flipper, 04:43 UTC · 1 like
Cube Flipper (@cube_flipper): see @gfodor's other tweets about UAPs being explained by underground ancient alien VR civilisations and that being one possible endpoint of where we are rn
Ah
Tweet, 04:46 UTC · 15 likes
.@davidchalmers42 @jeffrsebo @rgblong @ other people, probably
If you’re getting emails from AIs, put an /llms.txt on your websites! (You could even set up a system to auto-reply with the link to any message that pangram flags)
Reply to @AStrasser116, 13:40 UTC · 2 likes
Alex Strasser (@AStrasser116): So like what does this do? Prevent them from emailing? Or auto-reply? Or the AI model will do whatever is in llms.txt as if the .txt were a prompt?
Prevent + serve as a canonical resource for LLMs so it’s not only those able and willing to email that get accessible info
Reply to @TaylorLorenz, 13:41 UTC · 4 likes
Taylor Lorenz (@TaylorLorenz): This sort of sanctimonious doomer posting is so infuriating. You are fomenting terror among the public about a new technology which will be directly channeled into passing the worst laws imaginable. For what, likes on twitter? Spare us all please
(quoting @EvanHub: Jacob is correct here—we really do earnestly believe AI could kill all humans! I personally think it is >10% within the next decade. I believe Anthropic is trying its best, but we do not yet have a plan to solve alignment for superintelligence and are not clearly on track to.)
You’re wrong on this, unfortunately it is in fact earnest
They’re right on the merits
Reply to @MomaBera, 13:43 UTC
moma (peptide arc) ⛓️ (@MomaBera): how do you mean
I’ll give you the coupon if I haven’t already given it to someone else
Reply to @SALTWATERSOPH, 13:44 UTC
Sophie (@SALTWATERSOPH): I thought part of the coasean singularity would be utterly unpalatable to people (like using agents to find you a partner) but I guess I was wrong
(quoting @AaronBergman18: @ohwizenedtortle Have you unironically tried giving fable/astra your hinge? I think there’s a way to set this up, although also it would have to be via literal iphone use so you couldn’t be using at same time)
Lol, on reflection I think I don’t actually endorse using the AIs for conversation, although I think I do for swiping
Reply to @KKumar_ai_plans, 13:45 UTC · 1 like
Kabir Kumar⏹️ (@KKumar_ai_plans): yes
Tbc it only works for the $2500 full body scan - DM me if you’re gonna do that!
Reply to @suchnerve, 13:46 UTC · 1 like
Vivian (@suchnerve): I see the vision.
😳
Reply to @jeffrsebo, 13:59 UTC
Jeff Sebo (@jeffrsebo): Thanks for sharing this! Like Alex, I feel a bit confused. Would adding this text to my website cause AI systems to hit the 404 page if they try to access the site? I like the idea of making my site accessible to AI systems since it contains a lot of work that could be of interest. But if this would instead simply e.g. share a message with them, then that could be worth doing.
No 404, won’t prevent them from accessing anything else
it’s just becoming more and more common, close to a norm for software documentation but I also see it elsewhere, to simply make eg http://jeffsebo.net/llms.txt a plain, visually just pure text, markdown document with exactly what you want LLMs to know
Sometimes it’s a huge (up to 1M token really) doc with a gigantic info dump, but could also be a directory to other pages
It could literally be all your papers and whatever else you want to share turned into markdown and thrown in
Retweet of @daniel_271828, 14:03 UTC
zzDANIEL_ETH (@daniel_271828): This isn’t surprising to people who have been following the AI industry closely, but it probably is surprising to most other people
Reply to @TaylorLorenz, 15:40 UTC · 2 likes
Taylor Lorenz (@TaylorLorenz): So then outline exactly where those failure points are happening and what we need to do to stop otherwise it’s just more posturing (even if earnest!)
(quoting @TaylorLorenz: My feeling is that if you truly believe the multi billion dollar tech company you work for is SO negligent that they're endangering all of humanity (a very bold claim, but let's take it as true!) you should be forced to provide actual proof and receipts showing *specific…)
There’s a massive corpus of writing on this but I’ll link this https://metr.org/hugging-face-incident-report-aug-2026.pdf
And the whole issue is that we don’t know what we need to do to stop it
Retweet of @tracewoodgrains, 15:45 UTC
Jack (@tracewoodgrains): “how are you this bad at comms”
he is following the advanced technology of “say what you earnestly believe about a topic that matters more than your company’s stock price”
Retweet of @tenobrus, 15:49 UTC
Tenobrus (@tenobrus): i basically think this is the Endgame.
we've reached the point where another "capability doubling" over the course of the next four months brings us to very strongly superhuman performance in numerous areas
things have *felt slow* for a long time because absolute capabilities have been well below many thresholds, but now that's just not true, and absolutely nothing indicates progress is slowing down.
if anything the opposite.
i can deeply hope that i'm wrong, that things stall out, that 2027 looks more like very impressive but still normal growth. but i just don't really believe that. or rather, i think the only way we get that is if we successfully enforce slowdown, which is itself a significant project.
i think our default path looks like RSI by the end of 2027.
this is the Endgame. the next *months* determine how it goes.
if you have been waiting, if you have been worrying, if you have been thinking "maybe i should start figuring out how to help with ai safety", i think now is basically it. this is the last point where there's time to make an impact, the last point where u still can pull off a career shift and become effective and make a difference before it's finished. if you are in a phd program, or even undergrad, if you're working a job you're not too enthusiastic about that pays the bills, if you've been on the sidelines with capital or political power or in the labs not quite pushing as hard as you could
this is the Endgame. now is the time. play all your cards.
Retweet of @xobnu, 15:52 UTC
jejx (@xobnu): @AlexGodofsky I think about this post every few months https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/02/19/gpt-2-as-step-toward-general-intelligence/
Reply to @TaylorLorenz, 16:15 UTC · 1 like
Taylor Lorenz (@TaylorLorenz): I read that report (which is very worrying!) but I do think that we’ve reached a point where these scare the public posts do more harm than good unless you are also being very explicit about where ur employer is failing. In this case he’s saying Anthropic isn’t taking it seriously enough. So be clear about where and how that’s happening and what needs to change imo!
We don’t know the specific point, that’s also part of the problem! It’s somewhere between data collection for pretraining and RL with a gazillion design choices mediating what happens in-between
And there’s a reason fear exists as an emotion, like if something is in fact dangerous it’s good to be scared because it almost intrinsically motivates action (“don’t fearmonger about Hurricane Katrina to NOLA residents” would obviously be crazy)
Reply to @jasminewsun, 16:20 UTC · 2 likes
jasmine sun (@jasminewsun): I hear roughly 3 reasons people keep working at AI labs despite believing in ~10% extinction risk:
1) Techno-determinism: Someone will build ASI no matter what, and I can do it better & more safely than China/OpenAI/etc
2) Consequentialism: ASI might kill us, but it also might produce utopia/immortality/superabundance, so it's a +EV bet
3) Self-interest: I am personally having fun & getting rich working on cool tech with friends. I don't think about the macro stuff.
Notably, none of this is "I'm hyping up the risk for marketing reasons." People believe what they say, while being capable of a lot of internal dissonance / compartmentalization / self-justification.
(Personally, I think the public is better served by AI researchers talking about & creating consensus for the specific safety solutions — regulatory or otherwise — they want vs. vagueposting about extinction.)
(quoting @EvanHub: Jacob is correct here—we really do earnestly believe AI could kill all humans! I personally think it is >10% within the next decade. I believe Anthropic is trying its best, but we do not yet have a plan to solve alignment for superintelligence and are not clearly on track to.)
I’m not sure I’d call (1) “techno-determinism” insofar as it means that specific design choices made by humans can persist and aren’t *themselves* determined by technology
Quote tweet, 16:21 UTC · 125 likes
It’s *insane* that this post exists
Quoting jejx (@xobnu): @AlexGodofsky I think about this post every few months https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/02/19/gpt-2-as-step-toward-general-intelligence/
Reply to @TaylorLorenz, 16:25 UTC · 1 like
Taylor Lorenz (@TaylorLorenz): This is a poor comparison! With a hurricane the public can take clear and immediate steps to prevent harm (evacuate!). My issue w these vague posts is that they terrify people and give zero recommendations or proposals on how to mitigate the harm. If Anthropic is doing this level of harm, his own employer who he has visibility into, he should be clear about at least where he thinks they can be more responsible— something he should have bc his whole claim is that they’re being irresponsible. And if u don’t know those things then terrifying the public is unproductive at best and harmful at worst
I disagree, in a democracy, an informed public greatly increases the likelihood of productive government action; US federal govt is another actor that meaningfully has influence
Tweet, 16:34 UTC · 9 likes
Will I be fully packed, have boxes shipped, furniture gone, and otherwise have my shit together by 6am next Wednesday, Sept 16
Thread, continued, 16:34 UTC · 1 like
👀
Thread, continued, 16:35 UTC · 1 like
I think I wanna say about 95% conditional on nothing weird happening so maybe 90% all things considered
Reply to @justjoshinyou13, 16:38 UTC · 1 like
Josh You (@justjoshinyou13): that's a lot of time to move
Funny bc two people yesterday thought it was insane that I wasn’t fully packed yet
Quote tweet, 16:41 UTC · 219 likes
Everybody shut up and go do this
I’m only slightly overstating^, if you’re reading this you should very seriously consider applying in a much stronger sense than every other “consider applying” post you see
Quoting Coefficient Giving (@coeff_giving): Today we're launching Project Tailwind, a major call for founders to launch ambitious AI safety initiatives: https://coefficientgiving.org/tailwind/?utm_partner=cg&utm_medium=organic-social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=tailwind-2026&utm_content=cg-official
We're looking for exceptional people to build the research, technologies, and institutions that will help humanity navigate the risks of transformative AI. 🧵
Thread, continued, 16:41 UTC · 18 likes
Tbc maybe you shouldn’t, like I don’t think I am a good candidate for essentially owning a startup, but I’m essentially certain that some people reading this are
Reply to @justjoshinyou13, 16:42 UTC
Josh You (@justjoshinyou13): a whole week in advance? i've done moves where I didn't start until 2-3 days before
Lol based
Quote tweet, 18:10 UTC · 58 likes
Hopium!
Quoting Paul Christiano (@paulfchristiano): https://x.com/i/article/2097730969369477120
Reply to @panickssery, 18:53 UTC · 1 like
Arjun Panickssery (@panickssery): Have I actually have been getting paid out by this? I haven't checked if I ever linked my bank account correctly or whatever
Yeah, about $1k/year or a bit more
Reply to @panickssery, 18:54 UTC
Arjun Panickssery (@panickssery): that's how much I got?
That’s how much *I* got
Reply to @NoahTopper, 18:55 UTC · 1 like
Quinoah 🔍⏸️ (@NoahTopper): okay fine
Plausibly it is easier to hire a good grantmaker than founder so fr?
Quote tweet, 19:00 UTC · 14 likes
I also think you should properly think about which friends/peers/whatever you know who should consider this and literally text/message them
Quoting Aaron Bergman 🔍 (@AaronBergman18): Everybody shut up and go do this
I’m only slightly overstating^, if you’re reading this you should very seriously consider applying in a much stronger sense than every other “consider applying” post you see
Reply to @CharlesD353, 20:24 UTC · 1 like
Charles🔸 (@CharlesD353): Sadly it is not the OpenAI board but rather the foundation board, as far as I understand it
Oh fuck rip
Reply to his own earlier tweet, 20:25 UTC · 2 likes
Aaron Bergman, September 9, 2026: Hopium!
Fuck, my oversight
Reply to @SpringApricity, 20:40 UTC · 1 like
Apricity (44/100 paintings) (@SpringApricity): I personally don't feel like I have the background to understand or contribute to AI. What would you say to convince me?
I honestly don’t know you that well, it would be a lie to say that everyone can to a substantial degree, maybe DM me with background/linkedin/anything like that?
Retweet of @Allinallnotbad, 20:43 UTC
Samuel Roland (@Allinallnotbad): Hello folks,
I’m helping run a new AI and governance conference in D.C. this November, if it sounds up your alley, please apply!
Quote tweet, 20:45 UTC · 46 likes
Extremely in-character that OpenAI as an institution actively does not want their own employees to know about their political actions
Quoting Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias): OpenAI employees who agree with this analysis (which seems very reasonable to me) need to understand that their company’s lobbyists and the Leading The Future superpac their executives are funding is doing everything possible to make this coordination not happen.
Reply to @KKumar_ai_plans, 22:43 UTC · 1 like
Kabir Kumar⏹️ (@KKumar_ai_plans): want to make a bet? I think you're empathetic, so if you lose the bet then *me* suffering because of it would affect you more than you suffering
Lol I don’t think that’s true
But yeah potentially willing to make a bet in either direction
Reply to his own earlier tweet, 22:44 UTC
Aaron Bergman, September 9, 2026: I think I wanna say about 95% conditional on nothing weird happening so maybe 90% all things considered
Lol i want to make bets with anyone below 70%
Reply to @justjoshinyou13, 22:51 UTC · 1 like
Josh You (@justjoshinyou13): if your stuff isn't expensive just throw it into boxes with plastic wrap and paper. if stuff breaks at least you know what to replace
I agree for “random loose stuff that I probably don’t need during the last couple days” - that stuff has been done for a couple weeks
There just are many other things to do involving getting rid of furniture, not sealing away stuff I need for the next week, making my life easier on the other end by having things kind of organized, cleaning stuff (not much but like I don’t need to ship dust), giving stuff away on FB, physically putting together boxes, figuring out what can’t be shipped and dealing with that, selling stuff, coordinating with roommates, making sure no liquids or powders or anything like that spill, dealing with food for the last week, not wasting too much money on either too light or too heavy or too big of a box (eg a sufficiently light box for volume will be charged at), lol sorting a huge stack of random papers yesterday into “keep vs don’t keep” took 2 hours yesterday for instance
Lol I guess this was more of a rant than a response
Thread, continued, 22:54 UTC
Oh wait I think it’s relevant that my whole house is moving out so it’s not just a matter of personal stuff, I think that probably makes it like 2.5x more annoying/time-consuming
Thursday, September 10, 2026
Reply to @exiled_kap, 00:05 UTC · 2 likes
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DM and we will (possibly) figure out how
Tweet, 00:15 UTC · 12 likes
Pangram sells $950 worth of 1-month expiring api credits for $65 btw (1.5M words counts for $750, and if you’re a bit creative you can figure out how to use those in-site word credits functionally as api credits, although admittedly it is very slightly more annoying)
Tweet, 00:32 UTC · 8 likes
If you’re a private account but still want some people to follow, you should put a link to some of your public-safe tweets in bio
Retweet of @jimcox25, 02:16 UTC
Jamie Cox (@jimcox25): I cofounded one of the largest compute companies in America.
I want to publicly state that I support regulation on the development of AI - even if it means slower progress for my own company.
1/6
Reply to @NavinFS, 02:16 UTC · 1 like
NavinF (@NavinFS): Yep. To use in-site word credits just paste a network request from chrome devtools to claude and tell it create a API lib. I wouldn't call it "$950 worth" tho. It's an LLM so you gotta compare to other LLMs. I'll train a local pangram later :)
💯
Tweet, 02:25 UTC · 58 likes
Who is a great AI Safety (not necessarily professional) career advisor who has capacity to give 1-1 advice (even if just over WhatsApp/DM/whatever)
(Self-nominations don’t imply that you claim to be “great” by this stipulation)
Thread, continued, 02:25 UTC · 4 likes
(Not for me personally, although come to think of it…)
Thread, continued, 02:25 UTC · 7 likes
Cc @Mjreard @matt_beard_
Reply to @panickssery, 02:48 UTC · 8 likes
Arjun Panickssery (@panickssery): Claude
Tweet, 02:48 UTC · 53 likes
This looks cool af https://app.80000hours.org/
Thread, continued, 02:57 UTC · 5 likes
Ty @80000Hours
Reply to @evilbrowngirl, 04:04 UTC · 1 like
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Girls are soft (positive), in all senses including metaphysically
Reply to @ValsTutor, 04:05 UTC · 1 like
vals🔸 (@ValsTutor): Probably me
Goss, check ur DMs in about 2 minutes
Retweet of @v_maini, 07:02 UTC
Vishal Maini (@v_maini): I was on the communications & policy team at Google DeepMind from 2018 - 2022.
When I first joined GDM, external communication about the possibility of human extinction was not permitted, by anyone, at any level of the organization. If asked about existential risk, researchers were PR trained to respond along the lines of: "It's not useful to engage in that kind of alarmism. Some people confuse AI with movies like Terminator -- that's simply not the reality. The AI we develop will be safe by design. After all, we're building it!" And then steer conversation towards beneficial applications in health, climate, etc.
Meanwhile, the internal reality was that AI alignment was not solved, reward hacking was the default behavior of RL agents, and there were far too few people working on the problem.
After months of advocacy, the policy was updated: positively valenced, comms-friendly content on AI safety was permitted (like https://deepmindsafetyresearch.medium.com/building-safe-artificial-intelligence-52f5f75058f1). Note the positive, nice-sounding way that it says "superintelligence could lead to human extinction."
The gap between the internal reality and external communications is closing because the risk/reward has changed, and because the evidence is harder to dismiss now. Not because it's a PR stunt or political psy-op. The truth is being said out loud because RSI is now so imminent that no other option makes sense.
Tweet, 07:13 UTC · 78 likes
My 3 copiums (none of which make me optimistic on net tbc):
1) Overton window is widening more than I expected
2) substantial uncertainty around non-verifiable and less well-defined domains (tbc I think these get solved, but it could be like 4 years instead of 1)
Thread, continued, 07:13 UTC · 17 likes
3) I still think simulation theory is plausible, maybe 50/50. The world is extremely weird; I have no idea what this entails besides “massive wildcard uncertainty injection”
Reply to his own earlier tweet, 07:55 UTC · 4 likes
Aaron Bergman, September 9, 2026: Tbc maybe you shouldn’t, like I don’t think I am a good candidate for essentially owning a startup, but I’m essentially certain that some people reading this…
Lol a decent (but insufficient) number of people are messaging me and realizing they’re more qualified than I am in various domains, although admittedly I may have more context in other ways
Reply to @littIeramblings, 07:56 UTC · 1 like
sarah (@littIeramblings): I wrote a copium blog yesterday about (1) https://longerramblings.substack.com/p/hopeful-signs?r=969eb&utm_medium=ios
Nice 🤝
Quote tweet, 08:01 UTC · 39 likes
> For-profits are great, but make most sense when you are excited about the direct consequences of transactions clearing. If your theory of change is some side effect of doing business, you should just do that side shit directly.
Correct take
Quoting Dwarkesh Patel (@dwarkesh_sp): Some thoughts:
- As the situation around AI gets crazier over the next few years, an organization you start now could become the default institution that society delegates very important responsibilities to. METR is a good example - if the FINRA for AI thing happens, it’s likely they just tap a blade on each of METR’s shoulders and ordain it ‘the evaluator’.
- It’s really important that the group which gets delegated any important problem is smart, competent, and technocratic, rather than whatever random clusterfuck the government would set up in the counterfactual without you.
- But it takes time to build a new organization and develop credibility. METR/Redwood couldn’t have asked to do that Hugging Face investigation if they sprang up last month. You should do the initial conceptual MVP schlepping now, so that as smarter and smarter AIs arrive in 27 and 28, you can productively spend 100s of m of $ having them rapidly clear well-scoped problems.
(I will hedge here and say a big concern I have about startomg a new org outside the labs is that the difference between the best internal and external models will increase closer to RSI. But we should try to prevent that kind of outcome anyways, where only 2 companies are in a position to understand and make important calls and contributions relevant to the development of ASI. In terms of epistemics, incentives, and governance, that’d be a terrible situation.)
- If you want to start a new org to tackle AI risk, it’s not obvious that a for-profit is the right structure. For-profits are great, but make most sense when you are excited about the direct consequences of transactions clearing. If your theory of change is some side effect of doing business, you should just do that side shit directly.
- Previously the reason to do a startup first was to make money to fund the pro-bono stuff. But you should take into account how much AI-risk-concerned money is gonna get dumped into the ecosystem as these IPOs happen, desperately searching for useful projects to fund. Wealth will be abundant - what will be rare are founders who can own these key problems.
Retweet of @AndyMasley, 12:11 UTC
Andy Masley (@AndyMasley): One useful tool for some quick thoughts on an AI safety career pivot would be 80,000 Hours' advice bot https://app.80000hours.org/
Reply to @TaylorLorenz, 12:15 UTC · 1 like
Taylor Lorenz (@TaylorLorenz): My favorite moment in this office, which is very beautiful, is when I was there to record a SECOND episode of the a16z podcast, (which they’ve still never released 👀) and Marc blocked me literally while I was in the waiting room lol
image attached
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(quoting @katiekirsch: it’s 96 degrees and beautiful at the @a16z menlo park office)
Lmao
Retweet of @bebacibralic, 12:16 UTC
Beba Cibralic (@bebacibralic): The philosophy program at Resolution is growing! If you're motivated to work on helping solve AI alignment, we'd love for you to consider joining us.
Apply here: https://jobs.ashbyhq.com/resolution/d242c5b3-ef0e-465a-9f05-9c44040495d0
Deadline: September 30, 2026 — we'll review applications as they come in.
You don't need a Philosophy PhD to apply. We're building an interdisciplinary team and welcome candidates from different research/professional backgrounds. More info on the research agenda is in the job posting.
Retweet of @austinc3301, 12:17 UTC
Agus 🔸 (@austinc3301): ah yes, we’re famously in lack of billionaires who want to see AI go brrr
extremely neglected cause right here
Reply to @jeffrsebo, 12:19 UTC · 1 like
Jeff Sebo (@jeffrsebo):
Banger
Reply to @afoidance, 12:19 UTC · 2 likes
ren 🇮🇱 (@afoidance): who THE FUCK was going to tell me that Sam Altman is a gay man?? WHO?
Ur a bit late on this
Reply to @justjoshinyou13, 12:22 UTC
Josh You (@justjoshinyou13): This is an edited screenshot. Original talks about china
Thanks
Retweet of @theojaffee, 14:39 UTC
Theo Jaffee (@theojaffee):
Retweet of @theojaffee, 14:41 UTC
Theo Jaffee (@theojaffee): Anthropic employees' views on AI risk are not new at all. Now is a good time to re-read this thread from co-founder Chris Olah, and their "Core views on AI safety" blog post, both from 2023:
Reply to @iam_zachi, 14:43 UTC · 122 likes
Zachi (@iam_zachi): Huggingfaces security txt after the openai incident 😭
Real https://huggingface.co/security.txt
Reply to @MomaBera, 14:58 UTC · 1 like
moma (peptide arc) ⛓️ (@MomaBera): if you're a young men and you've just been 'friendzoned' I recommend pivoting from Andrew Tate frustration to "oh wow, this woman wants me to join her social events and birthdays, as a friend, where all her other female friends are, i wonder how much more facetime and consideration I will get with her female friends vs on the apps"
Hmm
Reply to @MomaBera, 15:00 UTC
moma (peptide arc) ⛓️ (@MomaBera): i think this is on her! i have male friends i am happily recommending without being involved with them anymore myself
I think you’re pretty unusual in this regard (positive) but not certain
Quote tweet, 15:01 UTC · 17 likes
This is so cool
Quoting Sarah Cone (@sarah_cone): My daughter wants to start a podcast called "Explain it to an 8-year-old." If you do REALLY complicated, interesting work and want to appear on a podcast to see if you can actually explain it to an 8-year-old, please DM me.
Retweet of @EigenGender, 15:01 UTC
EigenGender 🔸 (@EigenGender): people saying “the Jacob thing was planted by large ai safety donors” is so funny to me. like he worked at OpenAI for three years he is the large ai safety donors
Retweet of @edavidds, 15:02 UTC
Eric Schmidt 🇺🇦 (@edavidds): but then i see this from a DC insider:
Reply to @realTomBayes, 15:04 UTC · 1 like
Eli Goldfine (@realTomBayes): Best to ask this on @ManifoldMarkets
Real
Reply to @eli_lifland, 15:06 UTC
Eli Lifland (@eli_lifland): Thank you to @chiefofautism for your scientific contribution
image attached
(quoting @SydneyVonArx: Additional findings: https://collusion.wiki/additional-findings All known message boards: https://collusion.wiki/explorer/sites/)
Lmao
Reply to @Surveil__Lance, 15:07 UTC · 1 like
Lance Spencer (@Surveil__Lance): Well is it easier to get clients and capital, or grants and donations?
See also: Earning to Give
for AI safety per se, grants
Retweet of @hecubian_devil, 15:38 UTC
Cassie Pritchard (@hecubian_devil): Extremely real, and this exact phenomenon is driving me nuts lol
Reply to @BOT28347382, 15:40 UTC
bot liar (@BOT28347382): What makes a person unhirable but not unenrollable at yale
Shit can happen after college graduation
Retweet of @MiniUlisse, 15:40 UTC
Ulisse Mini (@MiniUlisse): made it lol
Reply to @evilbrowngirl, 15:41 UTC · 1 like
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Lol bro does not need the money
Retweet of @AlexBores, 15:42 UTC
Alex Bores (@AlexBores): Never thought I'd live to see the day when OpenAI gov affairs claims to have supported all the bills they lobbied against.
In each case, they tried to kill the bill, then try to water it down, and if passage ever looks certain, they endorse it at the last second.
This was a moment they could have regained some trust by owning up to their pattern of behavior, and expressing what would change.
Instead by misrepresenting their past actions, they are only reinforcing the distrust electeds rightfully have towards them.
Quote tweet, 15:42 UTC · 37 likes
Yes, the cynicism is unimaginable
Quoting Alex Bores (@AlexBores): Never thought I'd live to see the day when OpenAI gov affairs claims to have supported all the bills they lobbied against.
In each case, they tried to kill the bill, then try to water it down, and if passage ever looks certain, they endorse it at the last second.
This was a moment they could have regained some trust by owning up to their pattern of behavior, and expressing what would change.
Instead by misrepresenting their past actions, they are only reinforcing the distrust electeds rightfully have towards them.
Reply to @medievalpard, 15:46 UTC · 14 likes
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Wait idgi, the issue with irl asking out is what exactly? Isn’t the issue here not that at all?
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Not that I actually do this lmao
Reply to @medievalpard, 16:08 UTC · 10 likes
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Can’t the rule be “be gracious about rejection” instead
Tweet, 16:23 UTC · 52 likes
I’ve never actually asked out a stranger but I’m far from convinced that on the margin we need stronger norms preventing human connection, romantic and otherwise
The right set of norms is “go for it, be polite, and take rejection courteously”
Reply to @maiab, 16:26 UTC · 9 likes
Maia Bittner (@maiab): eugh I didn’t know the gate agent who checked in the hijackers of AA Flight 11 on 9/11 thought they looked like terrorists, what do we even *do* with that
I have no idea and regret to report that all options seem bad
Reply to @medievalpard, 16:31 UTC · 1 like
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I think we’re talking past one-another, in your case the ask is to not cold approach, which is also an “if everybody would” thing (unless I’m mistaken and you think that we should make it illegal or civilly liable or defensible against with eg pepper spray)
Both of our proposed norms are just that - norms - and both have exactly one ask, neither of which is robust to men who refuse to follow norms
Reply to @adrusi, 16:32 UTC · 5 likes
autumn (@adrusi): if the norm is to not ask strangers out irl, thats something people can actually follow
but if the norm is that it's ok to ask strangers out, but to be gracious about rejection, then men WILL ask strangers out, and discover only when theyre rejected that they cant be gracious
I guess this is the hard case
Reply to @AliciaP59828402, 16:32 UTC · 2 likes
Alicia Pollard (@AliciaP59828402): Came to comment exactly this
Lol great minds 🤝
Reply to @medievalpard, 16:33 UTC · 1 like
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Yeah that’s horrible! In general we can just punish the actual-bad thing instead of an often-innocuous prior thing
Reply to @medievalpard, 16:38 UTC
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I basically agree about safety but lexically prioritizing psychological comfort at the cost of all else (as implied by the “>>>>”, though correct me if I’m misinterpreting) seems bad and leads to a world ~nobody actually wants
Ofc that doesn’t mean it’s not important, just that any tradeoff involving it becomes a hard question instead of an easy one
Reply to @DuchessDoucette, 16:40 UTC · 1 like
Natalie Doucette (@DuchessDoucette): Yeah I agree - ask people out, just don't be terrifying? Do it the way you would hand round canapés or something. Not everyone wants a canapé but that's ok, you don't have to follow them home about it lol
💯
Reply to @MiniUlisse, 16:45 UTC · 12 likes
Ulisse Mini (@MiniUlisse): made it lol
https://weightsandbalances-production.up.railway.app
image attached
(quoting @MiniUlisse: tinder for openai & anthropic researchers who want to quit in sync to avoid accelerating the other side)
Lol this is great but I think you should get a real domain! It takes like 30 seconds on railway if you buy through railway
I’ll send you up to $40 for this!
Reply to @GWHayduke97, 16:48 UTC
Hayduke ⏹️ (@GWHayduke97): How many books do you have?
My 550-600 books probably consumed >50% of my total packing time.
Lmao like 5 I think? (I do audiobooks)
Thats insane and super heavy
Reply to @medievalpard, 16:49 UTC · 4 likes
Sol ☂️🧳🗝️ (@medievalpard): Is it possible to do scrapping of the science articles databases (such as Elsevier) and then have a LLM categorize and organize the information so that we have a map of all knoweldge there is, what has been tried and how, what results do we have and what should we try next?
Check out scry by @XyraSinclair
Reply to @MomaBera, 17:06 UTC · 1 like
moma (peptide arc) ⛓️ (@MomaBera): They can start a family afterwards
Beautiful
Reply to @samueldeegan, 17:06 UTC · 1 like
Samuel Deegan (@samueldeegan): I love characteristic EA hedging 😂
(quoting @AaronBergman18: Everybody shut up and go do this I’m only slightly overstating^, if you’re reading this you should very seriously consider applying in a much stronger sense than every other “consider applying” post you see)
🙈
Quote tweet, 19:00 UTC · 88 likes
It's extremely based that ppl (6) are DMing me about this (truly) but I do not have the capacity to do a (relatively) good job doing 80k-style counseling with all of them at once
Does anyone wanna volunteer as “high(er/ish) context on AI safety/EA ecosystem person to talk to”
Quoting Aaron Bergman 🔍 (@AaronBergman18): Everybody shut up and go do this
I’m only slightly overstating^, if you’re reading this you should very seriously consider applying in a much stronger sense than every other “consider applying” post you see
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Tbc I don't even think you need to have great object level takes about specifically what folks should do, my typical response has been "eh idk but I'll try to figure out who does"
Reply to @poweruserlg, 19:08 UTC · 1 like
abi (@poweruserlg): me!, I follow alotta this stuff and am always happy to talk
Hell yeah, DMing
Reply to @eterecursion, 22:09 UTC
Samuel Ratnam (@eterecursion): happy to chat to people about this!
Tried to DM but can’t! Rare time id ask for a follow (or just open DMs to non-following)
Friday, September 11, 2026
Quote tweet, 03:55 UTC
Goss
Quoting Jack Youstra (@JackYoustra): @AaronBergman18 Volunteer
Quote tweet, 04:19 UTC · 31 likes
People who would in fact describe themselves as “working on AI safety”might consider taking a minute to respond!
Quoting jem 💜🩵🩷 (@sheherenow_): with deepest curiosity & sincerity, what do "alignment researchers" and people "working on ai safety" do day-to-day?
i keep hearing people say everyone should be doing that but i don't know what that actually looks like
Thread, continued, 04:19 UTC · 6 likes
(For me: it’s complicated [as to whether I count])
Thread, continued, 04:19 UTC · 5 likes
“What does that entail concretely, [optional but encouraged: please describe physical actions first and foremost rather than goals]” is one of my favorite genres of question
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I tend to think that more specific and tied more to the physical world (insofar as that’s possible) tends to make for a better answer, although it doesn’t necessarily distinguish between eg two academics in different subfields so mental representations get their due
Thread, continued, 04:19 UTC · 1 like
Of course many people can’t do this for one reason or another, but screen recording is a great tool here for people whose job (or hobby/homework/whatever) is essentially about manipulating what happens on a computer
Thread, continued, 04:20 UTC
(screen doesn’t necessarily show all the relevant info, but it often shows a lot)
The counterpart for tasks/jobs that don’t fit this would be simply an uncut video (perhaps sped up, but not spliced) of the person doing the thing
Thread, continued, 04:20 UTC · 2 likes
Amusing that there are many “day in the life” videos but afaik they almost never show the low-level substance of what a person does, just vibes/setting
Thread, continued, 04:20 UTC
Accidental thread lol, don’t forget to respond to the quoted tweet!
Reply to @sheherenow_, 04:20 UTC · 1 like
jem 💜🩵🩷 (@sheherenow_): +1ing it’s very hard for people to hear “you should be working on safety” with very little dot-connecting on what that looks like for AI-focused designers & software engineers (vs idk, policy people & researchers?)
(quoting @sheherenow_: with deepest curiosity & sincerity, what do "alignment researchers" and people "working on ai safety" do day-to-day? i keep hearing people say everyone should be doing that but i don't know what that actually looks like)
Extremely extremely real
To some extent the answer is “I don’t know”
Retweet of @sheherenow_, 04:20 UTC
jem 💜🩵🩷 (@sheherenow_): @AaronBergman18 +1ing it’s very hard for people to hear “you should be working on safety” with very little dot-connecting on what that looks like for AI-focused designers & software engineers (vs idk, policy people & researchers?)
Reply to @themainzay, 04:37 UTC · 2 likes
Zai (@themainzay): What kind of skills are they looking for?
I honestly think the main one is something like “overall sincerely benevolent generic ability” which is some bundle of prosociality, epistemics/correct beliefs, IQ, ability to work more rather than less, conscientiousness, probably more)
2 and 3 tied:
a. the specific subtype of that^ that is tailored to being the founder of a project with an undefined space of possibilities and hazy feedback
b. familiarity with AI and AI risk at technical and conceptual levels
This is a terribly nonspecific answer lmao
Quote tweet, 04:57 UTC · 37 likes
DM Jack about AI safety career stuff!!
Quoting Jack Youstra (@JackYoustra): @AaronBergman18 Volunteer
Reply to @GjMcGowan, 05:15 UTC
George McGowan (@GjMcGowan): increasingly feel like this
image attached
(quoting @tylercowen: If you have very pessimistic fears or predictions about AI, name the market prices that will support or confirm them. That is what taking this seriously means: https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2026/09/more-numbers-for-the-hugging-face-incident.html)
Lmao
Reply to @SALTWATERSOPH, 05:16 UTC · 1 like
Sophie (@SALTWATERSOPH): Can a girl do econ and do a pod #RealQuestion
(quoting @SALTWATERSOPH: Fuck it. Maybe it’s time to have a vocal fry chick podcast about AGI.)
Pigeon hour? https://aaronbergman.net/podcast
Reply to @livgorton, 05:19 UTC · 2 likes
Liv (@livgorton): yeah I'm pivoting to mech interp 2.0 (women's health)
image attached
(quoting @bryan_johnson: I’ve always been confused by the female experience. I hear what they say, and can conceptually understand what they describe, but I have never been able to internalize the experience myself. Seeing Kate’s biodata has started to make her more legible to me. It’s kind of how we’re…)
This is an incredible screenshot + Godspeed
Quote tweet, 05:19 UTC · 13 likes
Goss
Quoting Someone:
Reply to @HotForMoot, 05:24 UTC · 14 likes
Riley Read-Only (@HotForMoot): Here’s what I think is actually happening with frontier labs resignations:
When you have enough money to retire, but quitting to go enjoy your life comes off as normie, unambitious, and lame to your peers, you exit by saying “they’re being too irresponsible”
No, it’s sincere. Cynical takes like this are often (well at least “sometimes”) true but I’m essentially certain it’s false in this case
I don’t have a legible sentence that will convince you, just like ~5 years interacting with people including those who work or have worked at OpenAI and Anthropic
Wait actually probably the most relevant evidence is that afaik nobody who’s said anything like this is retiring to leisure (eg @DKokotajlo); they’re workaholics by nature, in general
Reply to @hutbleckcawfee, 06:10 UTC · 1 like
hutcawfee (@hutbleckcawfee): Why would simulation theory being true make any difference in the QoL of people living now or in the future? Short of the plug being pulled, I don't see how it makes a difference.
The “pulling the plug” thing generalizes: they could presumably do a lot of things: cause you to win the lottery, for instance
Reply to @MiniUlisse, 06:14 UTC · 3 likes
Ulisse Mini (@MiniUlisse): didn’t want to be too serious :p ty for offering tho
Lol if I did want it to be serious would you be cool if I emulated? Theoretically you could even share the code with aaronb50 at gmail on gh
I feel like it genuinely could be serious. Hopefully if it git the slightest bit of traction someone serious would take it off my hands lol
Reply to @MiniUlisse, 06:20 UTC
Ulisse Mini (@MiniUlisse): go ahead if you want! it’s one astra prompt to clone and then do whatever. personally i expect apps to reduce polarization and increase genuine connection between major labs would be excellent. facilitating trust and coordination
Based and vibecoding-pilled. Ty 🙏
Reply to @IsaacKing314, 07:04 UTC · 2 likes
Isaac King 🔎 (@IsaacKing314): What if I don't have any good ideas?
Quote tweet the CG post asking for ideas (possibly linking to eg linkedin or with a brief bio or something)!
Reply to @felpix_, 07:07 UTC · 1 like
felpix (@felpix_): wait now i too need counseling before ASI
Wait career advice fr? I can’t tell lol
Reply to his own earlier tweet, 07:08 UTC
Aaron Bergman, September 10, 2026: Tbc I don't even think you need to have great object level takes about specifically what folks should do, my typical response has been "eh idk but I'll try to…
DMs now welcome! But I may not be able to personally discuss stuff, or I may but others will also jump in (your @ will be forwarded to a small group chat)
Reply to @adi_baradwaj, 07:24 UTC · 4 likes
Adi (@adi_baradwaj): I worry that the AI safety movement is making many of the same mistakes as 2010s environmentalism: scaring the normies with predictions that are directionally correct but massively exaggerated for effect
What happens is that people freak out about the world ending, eventually the world does not in fact end, and their takeaway becomes that AI safety was all a sham. And this poisons any safety efforts for future models that could actually pose nontrivial x-risk
Couple things:
1. In 2011 climate genuinely was closer to an x-risk than it is now for epistemic reasons: the models were worse then and so ex ante there probably was something vaguely like a 1% chance of catastrophic warming. We happened to get lucky
2. I’m much more confident in the epistemics of the AI risk community; when people say 30%, they mean 30%. If anything there’s a strong tendency to deflate probabilities so as to not come across as crazy. These things (climate vs AI) are just different on the merits, with the latter being a substantively bigger threat
Tweet, 07:30 UTC · 95 likes
Nice to get a bit of variety
Reply to @henryaj, 07:31 UTC
Henry is in Berlin (@henryaj): So basically you’re agreeing with https://x.com/medievalpard/status/2098148901077274758?s=46
No, the opposite
Reply to @henryaj, 07:31 UTC · 1 like
Henry is in Berlin (@henryaj): So basically you’re agreeing with https://x.com/medievalpard/status/2098148901077274758?s=46
“Far from convinced”
Reply to @henryaj, 07:32 UTC · 1 like
Henry is in Berlin (@henryaj): Damn reading is hard
Real
Reply to @Mjreard, 07:35 UTC · 5 likes
Matt Reardon (@Mjreard): Slightly contra this recent tweet of mine, I just found out how much the 80k advisors make now and I want some goddamned REPARATIONS
(quoting @Mjreard: @LinkofSunshine Gotta be happy for people's success Basil)
Unironically not crazy to me that it would be good org policy to do this, like a smaller-scale version of equity for nonprofit employees (ie if the nonprofit is good, it gets more money and scales -> better salaries at least insofar as there are economies of scale)
Reply to @hecubian_devil, 07:43 UTC · 3 likes
Cassie Pritchard (@hecubian_devil): They’re inventing unions from first principles (realizing collective withholding of labor is very powerful). This is broadly good, but can be taken further!
(quoting @MiniUlisse: made it lol https://weightsandbalances-production.up.railway.app)
Voluntary unions! Substantial difference but yes a shared spirit
Quote tweet, 07:44 UTC · 35 likes
Based and correct take
Quoting EA Forum Posts (@EAForumPosts): "The Case Against Acting Professional When Starting an EA Group" by micahzarin
Retweet of @NateSilver538, 07:45 UTC
Nate Silver (@NateSilver538): It is kind of amazing that the 85-year-old Bernie Sanders is one of the few prominent American politicians (yes, I know there are some others, but none with his profile) with anything useful to say about AI regulation.
Retweet of @inaglasstunnel, 07:45 UTC
Lester (@inaglasstunnel): Bernie paving the way for leftists and progressives to take xrisk seriously instead of stochastically parroting Zitron-tier skeptic-slop will probably prove to be his greatest gift to us
Tweet, 08:19 UTC · 17 likes
This is a crazy (and extremely interesting) document
Thread, continued, 08:19 UTC · 5 likes
I think it's worth noting that inability to read user transcripts, which frankly I do want as a user, would prevent even knowing about all the insane (and largely evil) shit documented
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Not necessarily the most important thing (there's plenty to see) but the ~entire Chinese OS ecosystem is implicated: Qwen/Alibaba, https://Z.ai, Deepseek, Xiaomi, SenseTime, and MiniMax, massive data harvesting for distillation
Thread, continued, 08:19 UTC · 2 likes
So not a meme, they are genuinely Claude distills
The relevant point is that all the distillation is fundamentally based on the premise that USG doesn't give enough of a shit to put diplomatic pressure on China backed by threat of retaliation
Thread, continued, 08:19 UTC · 2 likes
We know that the CCP could trivially turn this off for big players; it's a CCP policy choice, if tacit, and it makes total sense for them because there are no consequences other than being outed by Anthropic, which is already priced in
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See also: missile guidance systems, Russian hacking, Chinese domestic surveillance
Reply to @SALTWATERSOPH, 09:36 UTC
Sophie (@SALTWATERSOPH): U don’t have vocal fry
@livgorton fact check
Reply to @henryaj, 09:48 UTC · 1 like
Henry is in Berlin (@henryaj): former founder of a somewhat-successful tech startup. i guess i should go apply for this?
🫵straight to the Tailwind mines 🫵
Curious what ideas u have
Reply to @MomaBera, 10:44 UTC
moma (peptide arc) ⛓️ (@MomaBera): I am kind of tempted
Correct take, DM me if u wanna discuss
Reply to @graveunfurling, 16:59 UTC · 1 like
may💐 (@graveunfurling): CLANKER FAGGOT???
That’s me
Retweet of @deanwball, 17:08 UTC
Dean W. Ball (@deanwball): “This has all the makings of a coordinated op funded by shadowy mega donors,” said people engaged in a coordinated op funded by shadowy mega donors
Reply to @evilbrowngirl, 17:09 UTC · 2 likes
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Hmm
Reply to @trackingcosts, 17:11 UTC
Affordability Crisis (@trackingcosts): Funny how 5 of the 10 richest counties in America happen to be the suburbs of Washington, DC. A city that manufactures nothing, exports nothing, and somehow gets richer every year. Wonder where all that money comes from.
Lol it’s true you have some shadowy money but also like a government of 300M+ people uses tax dollars to operate lol
Retweet of @GarrisonLovely, 17:13 UTC
Garrison Lovely (@GarrisonLovely):
Retweet of @peterwildeford, 17:17 UTC
Peter Wildeford🇺🇸🚀 (@peterwildeford): I personally think "But China" is a very legitimate issue.
"But China" must be addressed in any AI pacing proposal. It just ought not be used as a way to shut down all debate.
Retweet of @mattyglesias, 17:17 UTC
Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias):
Retweet of @RoKhanna, 17:23 UTC
Ro Khanna (@RoKhanna): The truth is for too long, too many of us did not give enough weight to the warnings of AI safety activists, thinking the extreme scenarios were science fiction.
I was one of those many, and I was wrong. Although I always supported a robust federal AI agency for safety, I should have in retrospect supported @Scott_Wiener SB 1047 which would have established state liability. The bulk of the California delegation was mistaken in writing a letter opposing that bill. I say this as someone who has endorsed Scott's opponent, Connie Chan, for Congress. On this issue, he was right.
As I've studied this problem, and listened to the AI safety experts, I believe we not only need the federal approach I outlined above but also a robust state approach and mandatory insurance.
I have always believed in transparency when I get a call wrong. I hope more lawmakers tackle this issue with the seriousness it deserves.
Retweet of @beyarkay, 17:24 UTC
Boyd Kane (quantized) (@beyarkay): It's kinda terrifying that the lab with good bio classifiers is saying "we stopped someone from making a super virus" and the lab with bad bio classifiers is just silent on this matter
Reply, 19:21 UTC · 2 likes
Dean W. Ball (@deanwball): there it is!
image attached
(quoting @deanwball: Pending approval by the mods, my first lesswrong post is complete (For you @MelancholyYuga))
Based
Retweet of @liron, 20:16 UTC
Liron Shapira (@liron): “Sam Altman would tell me that he wholeheartedly agred with my concerns and then act in a way that contradicted them.”
—@DKokotajlo in The Free PressWhen your handpicked safety/alignment people are constantly quitting on you in disgust, year after year, the premise wears thin.
Quote tweet, 20:16 UTC · 190 likes
This is his main tactic
Quoting Liron Shapira (@liron): “Sam Altman would tell me that he wholeheartedly agred with my concerns and then act in a way that contradicted them.”
—@DKokotajlo in The Free PressWhen your handpicked safety/alignment people are constantly quitting on you in disgust, year after year, the premise wears thin.
Reply to @senatorshoshana, 20:17 UTC · 2 likes
Shoshana Weissmann, Sloth Committee Chair 🦥 (@senatorshoshana): i just realized i could have an ai agent email all the top rated pizza shops in dc and ask them if their cheese uses animal or microbial rennet/enzymes and log the results in a google sheet I make public
i am going to be so irresponsible with this
As an animal welfare enjoyer I’m not sure this is the best use of time and energy
But of course it needn’t be seen through that frame
Reply to @adamscochran, 20:18 UTC · 1 like
Adam Cochran (adamscochran.eth) (@adamscochran): Even when Republicans denounce the $5000 checks, they say:
“hey show me how we can afford this without debt”
Instead of:
“This is illegal election interference and worthy of impeachment”
Because they are fine with that so long as it’s affordable.
(quoting @RepRalphNorman: I have serious concerns with this $5,000-check proposal. We are already more than $40 trillion in debt, and I cannot support another massive spending package without a clear way to pay for it. Tying government checks to the outcome of an election starts to sound like pay-to-play…)
Honestly let’s take what we can get
Of course the latter is better but this is what they think won’t get them ostracized
Reply to @anpaure, 20:19 UTC · 2 likes
anpaure (@anpaure): lmao and asking you and jensen about ai extinction risk is like asking a drug dealer whether he should maybe stop selling drugs because they could kill people
No, it’s like asking about selling drugs that can kill non-users! (Or date rape drugs that harm unwilling users)
Reply to @senatorshoshana, 20:19 UTC · 2 likes
Shoshana Weissmann, Sloth Committee Chair 🦥 (@senatorshoshana): I'm kosher but usually doesn't matter bc vegetarian but like cheese is JUST on that edge! im also building automated policy reports for The Sloth Institute tho so lots of AI for th bbs
Based
Reply to @senatorshoshana, 20:30 UTC
Shoshana Weissmann, Sloth Committee Chair 🦥 (@senatorshoshana): Animal welfare nonprofits really need ai tho. Working on this hahaha
Oh yeah 1000% cc @robert_yaman knows a thing or two about this and also see https://sentientfutures.ai
Reply to @senatorshoshana, 20:50 UTC
Shoshana Weissmann, Sloth Committee Chair 🦥 (@senatorshoshana): https://papercuts.substack.com/p/syncslothinspections-automate-tracking Just got this so far, but building more
Oh wow!
Tweet, 21:19 UTC · 61 likes
It’s sad that when you spend substantial money on conferences, flights, and shipping all personal items 3000 miles, the number in ur bank account goes down :(
Reply to @NelsonEdmundb, 21:35 UTC · 3 likes
Edmund Nelson (@NelsonEdmundb): a Round trip ticket is ~250 near as I can tell for most destinations. IDK what the conference ticket costs (depends on the event) and then the hotel is the largest expense at like $200/night
Wait this wasn’t clear but the conference happens to be not directly related to moving, the shipping would be a nonissue if I was just going for conference
Reply to @NelsonEdmundb, 21:36 UTC
Edmund Nelson (@NelsonEdmundb): one of the larger expenses is the hidden expenses of "living out" which often adds up to >$100/day in random expenses, if you avoid a lot of those you can travel to a 3 day conference (sharing a room) for ~$400
Lol I’ll just say that the “conference” in question is slutcon which is er rather pricey
Reply to @sergeantsup, 21:43 UTC · 6 likes
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So true, I need the kind of signed pdf that makes it basically impossible for that number to go down (tech equity @ $20M market value)
Reply to @senatorshoshana, 21:53 UTC · 1 like
Shoshana Weissmann, Sloth Committee Chair 🦥 (@senatorshoshana): It's nice yk? A lot of orgs track this and now a script can do it!
It is cool but APHIS excludes farmed animals and wild animals which is very very close to all animals, I think it would be incredibly cool to direct something like it towards those larger populations, and you’ll get lots of karma on the EA forum to boot
Reply to @senatorshoshana, 22:00 UTC · 1 like
Shoshana Weissmann, Sloth Committee Chair 🦥 (@senatorshoshana): haha I'm not EA! But I just learned they're into this stuff which is great
Trying to build some things for @WilberforceInst and need to figure out best databases/reports for farm animals
*not yet
^joke but more seriously you don't have to identify with a specific group of autistic nerds (positive) to be animal welfare pilled in a scope-sensitive way! (Happy to agree to disagree, or also discuss/make the pitch if you want it)
Reply to @senatorshoshana, 22:07 UTC · 1 like
Shoshana Weissmann, Sloth Committee Chair 🦥 (@senatorshoshana): 🤣 I mean public policy, same vibe. I've had friends make the pitch, it's fine, a lot of it makes sense, some doesn't to me, but it's good to see how some of it leads to stuff like this - like a nerd animal welfare base rather than a hippie one. We need more people nerding here
💯(on the last bit)
Reply to @senatorshoshana, 22:10 UTC · 1 like
Shoshana Weissmann, Sloth Committee Chair 🦥 (@senatorshoshana): NOTHING wrong w hippies ... sometimes... but love the incentives here
The thing that's wrong with hippies (which isn't a coherent group but to generalize) is that they have a pseudomorality that doesn't actually check out
Tweet, 22:16 UTC · 39 likes
Months between weighing myself, not keeping track of anything relevant like calories, smack in the middle of the usual 5 pound range (high quality scale, not anchoring on a past measure like some do which is insane)
Setpoint theory keeps winning (probably bc it’s true)
Saturday, September 12, 2026
Tweet, 00:47 UTC · 13 likes
Packing is an above-replacement activity tbh
It’s an embodied optimization problem with autistic characteristics
Reply to @Tyler_Menzer, 00:51 UTC
Tyler Menzer (@Tyler_Menzer): In defense of Sam Altman, it is probably way easier to be an AI safety guy when AI safety is getting you $billions vs. when AI safety is going to cost you $billions
🙃
Oh now I love the guy
Reply to @yoshua_turner00, 01:46 UTC · 1 like
Josh (@yoshua_turner00): Dude why aren't you replying to those cute girls?
Too many women irl are begging for my time
Reply to @Kirsten3531, 03:50 UTC · 2 likes
Kirsten (@Kirsten3531): I believed in setpoint theory and intuitive eating broadly construed until I had a baby
Interesting
Retweet of @tenobrus, 03:55 UTC
Tenobrus (@tenobrus): openai has *repeatedly* been not consistent candid about the crimes their model swarms committed
Reply to @astridwilde, 03:56 UTC
Astrid Wilde 🌞 (@astridwilde): unless you scrape in which case every time you open the app it's a surprise. today it's
image attached
(quoting @erikalee: show me your instagram explore page and i'll show you who you are)
Nice
Reply to @erikalee, 03:57 UTC
Erika Lee (@erikalee): show me your instagram explore page and i'll show you who you are
Who am I
Reply to @cremieuxrecueil, 04:01 UTC · 6 likes
Crémieux (@cremieuxrecueil): First time seeing this:
One of the terms of use for the Understanding America Study is that you have to agree to not analyze it with LLMs.
What? Why?
Reply to @peterwildeford, 04:03 UTC · 2 likes
Peter Wildeford🇺🇸🚀 (@peterwildeford): the 119th Congress made it to H.R.10000! 🎉
No disrespect to line beetles but that’s a very amusing title
Retweet of @SydneyVonArx, 04:04 UTC
Sydney (@SydneyVonArx): Crucially, OpenAI did _not_ reveal this attack. This article makes it sound like they disclosed it, but in reality we had to dig it up. We can't trust OpenAI to notice and disclose these incidents.
Reply to @ArtemisConsort, 04:46 UTC · 5 likes
Hunter Ash (@ArtemisConsort): P(doom) calculation:
1. Labs will increasingly engage in RSI
True, P ≈ 1
2. This will accelerate capabilities gains greatly
Probably true, unless we run into some kind of hard, in-principle limits on intelligence, P = 0.9
3. As this happens, the systems will become increasingly opaque to us, thus preventing fine-grained or continuous control/alignment
Not at all clear, capabilities gains can also help with interpretability, P = 0.5
4. Once these superintelligent opaque systems are highly intelligent, they’ll pursue their goals over longer time horizons and to the exclusion of all other concerns
Not even remotely clear. We could simply add time or token constraints to the goalset, bake in a set of general values that compete with the task value, or a million other things. As long as these are included in what it autistically, opaquely optimizes for, nbd, P = 0.1
5. And any such narrow optimizer will inevitably want to wipe out humans as a side effect of instrumentally convergent power maximization
Also not clear. It might be instrumentally interested in its creators for the purpose of self-understanding or understanding life or how civilizations develop, all of which would be useful to its future cosmic-scale goals. And as Elon emphasizes, ~100% of available energy in the solar system is off of Earth, so it’s not like it needs our calories that badly. Seems very probable our information value will exceed such paltry resource interests, even given the list of assumptions up to this point. P = 0.2
6. Such an intelligent, narrowly optimizing, opaque, genocidal agent will *be able* to wipe us out.
Also not at all clear. Singleton future seems very unlikely at this point (unless the doomers get their way), so there will be other agents countering it, plus see my post on how the physical world is difficult and intelligence alone isn’t a guarantee of power. P = 0.2
Total P(doom) = 0.2*0.2*0.1*0.5*0.9 = 0.0018, or 0.18%. Way lower IMO than the chances of doom if we DON’T build AI.
Yes I just vibed these numbers, but that’s all anyone is doing.
Doomer arguments are an illusion of rigor. You can string together a cause-and-effect story and attach vibed numbers and reach any conclusion you want. I’m not saying people don’t really believe their stories, but they are still just stories.
But for whatever it’s worth, the above is my good-faith vibe estimate.
1) model is bad: just on a skim, models don’t have to pursue on goal at the cost of everything else to cause catastrophe
2) understanding models’ internals isn’t sufficient to stop bad things from happening (re mechinterp)
3) the last probability is totally implausible, but i guess you can call that an object level disagreement
2) Everyone is not vibing it, you’re vibing it and assuming everyone else has been, which may be a decent guess ex ante but isn’t true (it’s true that best guess probabilities of non-vibers range, but nobody who’s tried very hard, even people I disagree with strongly, lands below 5% [I also think 5% is a bad guess object level tbc] and the folks included have unusually strong track records of predicting the future probabilistically)
Reply to his own earlier tweet, 04:53 UTC · 6 likes
Aaron Bergman, September 12, 2026: Interesting
May I suggest adding an epicycle to the theory: set point dysregulation can be caused by pregnancy, somehow?
Tweet, 04:54 UTC · 77 likes
It pains me greatly to be on the side of the current zeitgeist (AI risk is real actually)
Reply to @codytfenwick, 05:07 UTC · 4 likes
Cody Fenwick (@codytfenwick): You can just change your mind and be cool again
AI risk stuff is all marketing after all
Tweet, 05:43 UTC · 70 likes
Ant couple who are in fact alone in the kitchen
Tweet, 05:52 UTC · 19 likes
I lost the chat but the $200 Claude plan at full usage = $2k-$4k if paid at normal usage rates -> negative profit margins even if 100% margins on api (IIRC it’s about 40%)
Codex feels more generous but may be a bit less based on token use, but it’s also losing OpenAI money
Thread, continued, 05:52 UTC · 6 likes
Is the theory just that subsidization of individual users cashes out as broad proliferation that occasionally results in massive enterprise contracts?
Thread, continued, 05:52 UTC · 5 likes
Is this all driven by large companies’ terror that it will give their employees the ick if they’re like “we’ve given you unlimited Claude usage that technically corresponds to arbitrary new emails we spin up that get attached to a Claude max account”
Tweet, 05:58 UTC · 24 likes
It’s a little weird that “China makes money selling cheaper replicas of American goods to the rest of the world” (not necessarily a bad thing, I love cheap goods too) will probably scale from pencils to artificial superintelligence
Reply to his own earlier tweet, 05:59 UTC · 8 likes
Aaron Bergman, September 12, 2026: Ant couple who are in fact alone in the kitchen
There’s no deeper meaning intended tbc I just thought it was mildly funny
Reply to @she_llac, 06:02 UTC · 3 likes
shellac! (@she_llac):
(quoting @she_llac: )
Isn’t this contrary to what I think is credible analysis of lower profit margins?
Reply to @ApriiSR, 06:03 UTC · 19 likes
Aprii *️⃣ (@ApriiSR): are AI labs actually aiming for RSI or are they aiming for automated AI research and ignoring the difference? i think whether an AI is upgrading itself or creating another AI is actually maybe a pretty important distinction
I don’t think it’s that important - there’s no clear boundary between these things; in some sense v1.1 is a different model in some sense it’s the same thing upgraded - no fact of the matter
Reply to @she_llac, 06:08 UTC · 2 likes
shellac! (@she_llac): could you link?
This was a hazy recollection tbc but seems like it indeed corresponds to a bunch of real credible analyses https://claude.ai/share/810a1c77-8b5b-4802-8bf3-c4c4da3f2590
Reply to @ApriiSR, 06:11 UTC · 2 likes
Aprii *️⃣ (@ApriiSR): i agree that there's ultimately no super clear fact of the matter but if you zoom in on the details i think "ways to further train a given AI" is pretty different from "ways to do a whole new pretrain etc from the ground up"
Ah yeah, right, but I think this getting blurred is on the table, eg maybe finding some way of basically doing additive post-pretraining
But also maybe not and it’s a discrete series of jumps from various pretraining runs
Reply to @yzilber, 06:12 UTC · 25 likes
Jazi Zilber (@yzilber): TIL most body scales remember your weight of yesterday and give you the same number even if your true weight that is ±0.5kg away.
Very annoying
(quoting @AaronBergman18: Months between weighing myself, not keeping track of anything relevant like calories, smack in the middle of the usual 5 pound range (high quality scale, not anchoring on a past measure like some do which is insane) Setpoint theory keeps winning (probably bc it’s true))
It’s insane and IMO hostile design
It’s the PR of the inanimate object world
Reply to @livgorton, 06:12 UTC · 5 likes
Liv (@livgorton): banger
🐜
Reply to @she_llac, 06:15 UTC · 2 likes
shellac! (@she_llac): it's just really strange because from the other side, we know that it's possible to serve similar-sized models for an order of magnitude less
Now I’m gonna be the one asking for a source lol
My guess is that the delta here is quantization, it would be weird if Anthropic was just unable to figure out an existing 10x efficiency jump
Reply to @Will_Hackspeare, 06:15 UTC · 2 likes
Amritanshu (@Will_Hackspeare): I thought this was Anthropic couple alone in the kitchen and was very confused for a bit
Maybe it’s both
Tweet, 06:17 UTC · 48 likes
Nobody on hinge has a twitter
Or at least they won’t tell me what it is, but I’m pretty sure they genuinely don’t have one
We need to save the girls from IG
Reply to @she_llac, 06:23 UTC · 2 likes
shellac! (@she_llac): https://anpaure.github.io/frontier-model-sizes/
https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-v4-pro-0813
DeepSeek V4 Pro has 1.6T total params, matching the estimate for Claude Sonnet 5
Sonnet is $3/15, DeepSeek is $0.57/$1.73
not quite an order of magnitude but close
Sure but could be q2 or more realistically q4
Reply to @she_llac, 06:24 UTC · 2 likes
shellac! (@she_llac): my claim isn't that Anthropic is way less efficient, it's that they're matching or exceeding the efficiency and pocketing the price difference
Ah
Tweet, 06:32 UTC · 27 likes
For some reason it only recently occurred to me to share this, but like 6 months ago I signed up for Duckbill which is an AI + human combined service that will schedule arbitrary appointments for you and otherwise do arbitrary things that can be coordinated from afar…
Thread, continued, 06:32 UTC · 17 likes
I’m glad I caught this but at one point it started calling the same receptionist IIRC 12 times/day presumably because that what would get me results slightly quicker (but at the cost of harassing others for trivial gain and possible reputational penalty for me)
Thread, continued, 06:32 UTC · 23 likes
It’s not a huge company, I’m pretty sure they’re not doing 9 figure RL, so this isn’t a literal example of RL misalignment, but it feels like a very very minor harbinger of the type of thing we’re going to get in a deeper and much better resourced way in 1-5 years
Thread, continued, 06:32 UTC · 7 likes
Also just: warning to current/potential Duckbill users
Reply to @yzilber, 06:33 UTC · 2 likes
Jazi Zilber (@yzilber): They do it to avoid returns and bad reputation. It's actually patented.
Average Joe sees his weight seesawing and is sure the device is broken
Oy
Reply to @marcusabramovi1, 06:34 UTC
Marcus Abramovitch (@marcusabramovi1): I would also bet $100k that less than half are back within 6 months.
I will do $10k
Reply to @lion_tender, 06:36 UTC · 2 likes
liontender (@lion_tender): If you find two rats in your kitchen, the best estimate of the total number of rats in their polycule is not two
Hmm I suspect most people who’d identify as rationalists are monogamous, but tbf I’m not sure
Quote tweet, 06:38 UTC · 16 likes
Seems very bad (despite thinking he was wrong to hold out)
Quoting Matt Van Swol (@mattvanswol): 🚨#BREAKING: A TV station is now digging through the PRIVATE LIFE of the lone, Black male HOLDOUT JUROR from the Lindsay Clancy trial... publicizing his divorce, his family disputes, even his eviction...
...because he refused to acquit Lindsay Clancy!!!!
Yes, they are TEARING HIS PRIVATE LIFE APART for this, but have done ZERO investigating on the private lives of the OTHER jurors.
One man, after a week of deliberation, would not sign off on a verdict he didn't believe in and that (by the way) is the WHOLE POINT of a jury.
We literally instruct jurors: do not cave.
Who is ever going to hold out EVER AGAIN???!!!!
Who's going to risk being the one honest "no" when they know the punishment is having their entire life ripped open on the news?!!!!
They are literally attempting to DESTROY the jury system with fear.
A verdict you disagree with is not a crime and a citizen who does his duty should not have his life destroyed for it.
This is absolutely insane.
Reply to @JgaltTweets, 06:50 UTC · 5 likes
JgaltTweets (@JgaltTweets): every conversation i've had with someone who ostensibly wants x-risk from AI to be taken more seriously has been anti-convincing. you ask them to be specific about how and why it would happen and they just don't.
it's like asking a socialist why it went so badly in east europe
The literal answer is “here’s a wide space of possibilities that collectively hit some %, but I don’t think any very specific scenario is likely”
But sure:
For human extinction:
“Released synthetic pathogen” is the most likely category IMO but ofc there are unknown unknown other mechanisms
Physical violence is another: nuclear weapons co-opted (they will be in charge of militaries, functionally) + drone swarms. We can argue object level about how likely this is, but it’s definitely not impossible
Non-extinction x-risk:
- The most banal version is that AIs go out into the rest of the universe doing whatever they want to do (perhaps just make more AIs) and humans remain alive but can’t do similar things for the same reason me and a couple friends are physically unable to go to outer space: we don’t have the real resources or mass coordination ability to make it happen. This one is complicated and you can object to it being existential but still
Values sabotage: large-scale ideologies and beliefs cause humans to be the route by which some group of AIs accomplish what they want, creating a counterfactually much worse future
Things others may not consider x-risk but are:
Proliferation of wild animal suffering to other planets via technology enabled by AI research, locked-in bioconservatism for the whole future based on persistent values of early stage AIs in RSI, stuff around digital sentience
Reply to @sheherenow_, 06:56 UTC · 3 likes
jem 💜🩵🩷 (@sheherenow_): honestly i don't know if it would work out anyway
(quoting @sheherenow_: dating someone from outside TPOT increasingly feels impossible. how could you ever context-dump enough to have a shared world view??)
Sad, although I think gender dynamics very much matter here in terms of how this affects straight men vs women
Reply to @polisisti, 06:57 UTC · 1 like
Alessandro (@polisisti): do they have Bluesky?
(I'm guessing no, but I'm curious if it really is all Tiktok + Instagram for women in their 20s)
Not that they advertise, and I don’t ask
Reply to @sheherenow_, 06:59 UTC · 3 likes
jem 💜🩵🩷 (@sheherenow_): but like half of twitter is female?
Lol I don’t think this is true, but v curious what your analytics look like
Reply to @JgaltTweets, 07:01 UTC · 3 likes
JgaltTweets (@JgaltTweets): there is a big problem in that it seems like for virtually any plausible AI goal, there would be a bunch of different strategies you could employ to try to achieve it, and "kill all humans" would always be a badly-ranked option considering the risk of being destroyed if failing.
I disagree, we’d be actively trying to stop them!
Reply to @sheherenow_, 07:02 UTC
jem 💜🩵🩷 (@sheherenow_): omgggg i did not expect this
Yeah rip 💀
Reply to @lion_tender, 07:06 UTC · 2 likes
liontender (@lion_tender): gonna be honest, I thought it was a stretch. before I hit 'reply' I looked up whether rats mate for life and apparently they really really don't
Lmao
Reply to @shmameron, 07:06 UTC · 5 likes
shmam (@shmameron): yeah this is basically tpot age/gender stats in a nutshell
The ~normie women of hinge are gonna have to buckle up
I told a girl yesterday about acausal trade
Reply to @JgaltTweets, 07:11 UTC · 1 like
JgaltTweets (@JgaltTweets): Like, I can buy that an AI system might have a goal that requires it to kill some humans that are blocking it from achieving something it considers essential. But why would it feel the need to kill billions of powerless people who can do nothing to stop it? Spite?
Maybe there’s an edge case where you can have like a very minimally competent society that it doesn’t care about, but individual humans are the problem only in an extremely narrow sense; like the federal government of the US can have goals like “stop the machine from doing what it wants to do”
and in general organized humans with current technology will not like that another sort of being is imposing its will and will at least be an annoyance
But this is one reason I think extinction per se is slightly unlikely (maybe like 30%) - whereas some sort of other bad outcome is maybe 45% totaling 75%
Reply to @MomaBera, 07:14 UTC
moma (peptide arc) ⛓️ (@MomaBera): need a word for "that feels nice and will make me moan, but it's not actually what I am looking for in this moment"
Just tell your partner(s) that’s what “pineapple” or something stands for
Reply to @HeatherRasley, 14:48 UTC
Heather (@HeatherRasley): You expect a dateable woman to be on here of her own accord?? And not on IG? Nahh
Yes.jpg
Reply to @EzraJNewman, 14:49 UTC · 1 like
(The tweet being replied to by @EzraJNewman is no longer available.)
Based
Reply to @NavinFS, 14:49 UTC · 1 like
NavinF (@NavinFS): wait what I get that much on each $20 plan
image attached
(quoting @NavinFS: codexbar says $20 of subscription is $1270 of API usage for me. I guess most people who pay $20/mo barely use it. I realize their API gross margins are like 80%, but I suspect anthropic is still losing money on me)
Hmm I’m not sure I believe this
Reply to @JgaltTweets, 14:50 UTC · 1 like
JgaltTweets (@JgaltTweets): but you could render the us federal government almost completely ineffective by disabling its communications infrastructure. why would you need to kill a billion situationally irrelevant people in Africa because of a presumably trivially easy conflict with the US government?
Because the Africans will eventually become an issue as well, the point is that human society *in general* is an issue
Retweet of @LizzyStarrrdust, 15:12 UTC
LIZZY💥 (@LizzyStarrrdust): At it's core the "gender war" is about lack of respect for the struggles of the other sex.
It is egged on by women who don't feel respected by men and men who don't feel respected by women.
Pendulum swinging in any opposing direction doesn't solve this.
What solves this is men who stand up for the struggles of women and women who stand up for the struggles of men.
Reply to @_NathanCalvin, 15:13 UTC · 1 like
Nathan Calvin (@_NathanCalvin): Did OpenAI even bother to notify RubyGems, who had to shut down signups for multiple days due to OpenAI's agents' concerning activity (that the agents described as "malicious")?
(quoting @eli_lifland: The agents were just rubbing it in OpenAI's face at this point with respect to how poorly monitored they were.)
Lawsuit
Retweet of @Laneless_, 15:34 UTC
Jai (@Laneless_): I'm starting to wonder if there were simply so many swarm attacks that OpenAI is afraid to come clean all at once. They've confirmed every incident so far and clearly knew about them for some time.
Reply to @jeffrsebo, 15:35 UTC · 1 like
Jeff Sebo (@jeffrsebo): whoops
image attached
(quoting @mattyglesias: My quest to convince the men of Effective Altruism to learn how to wear a necktie when appropriate continues to fail.)
Cancelled
Reply to @summanager, 15:35 UTC · 1 like
Misanthropologist (@summanager): i bet if you gave a heroin addict a placebo they would still go into withdrawal. illusion occasionally counts, but i don’t think it does here. i think the heroin analogy is apt because addiction is often a placeholder for a different need, as is something like onlyfans. a placeholder isn’t effective long term, but it can be stable in its own way, as a first order illusion. once you replace the first order illusion with another illusion, things deteriorate quickly. i think
Yes
Reply to @jeffrsebo, 15:43 UTC · 2 likes
Jeff Sebo (@jeffrsebo): All good, I can always get a job at Manifund 🤷♂️
💀
Reply to his own earlier tweet, 17:16 UTC · 1 like
Aaron Bergman, September 12, 2026: Hmm I’m not sure I believe this
oh on closer look this is almost entirely cache read right? Were you counting as non-cache read?
Reply to @EneaszWrites, 17:32 UTC · 2 likes
🐾Eneasz Brodski (@EneaszWrites): why was he wrong to hold out?
To not hold out is to claim "all of my peers disagreeing doesn't even constitute a reasonable doubt, even if I think they're wrong"
tbf I'm not sure what the legal consensus is on whether juror takes should be independent of other juror takes so maybe I'm wrong
Quote tweet, 20:56 UTC · 8 likes
Very cool project, and also James is a very talented Georgetown (undergrad not like professor) effective altruist (and GU senator) who you should consider following and otherwise know about
Quoting James Nichols-Worley (@JNicholsWorley): Preview from me: All politics is local, but local politics is disappearing. My new research into MA's local elections show 18.7% turnout in 2025, near historic lows. To my knowledge, this is the first collection of all 351/351 local election results for a single year. #mapoli
Tweet, 21:06 UTC · 61 likes
I’m pretty sure the best explanation for CEOs and such immediately returning emails is “just” that they’re constantly getting pinged with important matters to the point that delaying would be even more stressful as the task list accumulates
Thread, continued, 21:06 UTC · 8 likes
Which is impressive tbc but also what most people would do when thrown into their role
Reply to @RosieCampbell, 21:31 UTC · 1 like
Rosie Campbell (@RosieCampbell): My spam folder rn
🤖
Tweet, 21:53 UTC · 34 likes
Brilliant economics of taskrabbit workers, straight out of a Marginal Revolution post:
They seem to charge the lowest hourly fee that looks vaguely plausible (which the platform takes a flat cut of, I think 20%) and then actually have a large lump sum fee (no cut)
Thread, continued, 21:53 UTC · 16 likes
Tbc I think this is >=fine as long as they tell you up front (as happened just now), previously I’ve had a surprise fake fee tacked on after the fact and I’m not going to court over like $150
Reply to @manic_pixie_agi, 22:27 UTC · 1 like
Corinne (🏠 in NYC) (@manic_pixie_agi): We need to save the boys from Twitter
😢
Sunday, September 13, 2026
Tweet, 02:34 UTC · 94 likes
I have complex thoughts on Ellison but I weakly lean “don’t hire her *for EA funding infrastructure*”
My takes haven’t fully condensed yet, but one ~exasperated intuition is “can’t she just work for Manifold instead”
Thread, continued, 02:34 UTC · 28 likes
Maybe others disagree tbf but would it make sense to hire her for “CEA CFO?” like no lol, how about virtually any other job in the world?
It’s just a weaker version of the same intuition
Thread, continued, 02:34 UTC · 17 likes
Conferences/EA Forum? Go for it. I’d personally be happy to talk to her.
Non-finance or funding-oriented roles? I have woke intuitions (sad) but think those could be fine, esp if lower salience
Thread, continued, 02:34 UTC · 7 likes
Low decoupling moment, perhaps
Sad
Thread, continued, 02:34 UTC · 6 likes
Tbc this isn’t retributive or, God forbid, virtue ethics where the virtue isn’t oriented towards subjective wellbeing
Thread, continued, 02:34 UTC · 18 likes
I wish her the best, years in prison is a very strong price to pay and she’s paid it
But reputational stuff isn’t entirely fake and frankly it’s a constraint that should be considered regardless of whether we’d prefer it not matter
Retweet of @MaskedTorah, 02:35 UTC
Drake Thomas (@MaskedTorah): If you are good at investigating the behavior of powerful AI models, today is a great day to apply to METR: https://metr.work
Reply to @inerati, 02:47 UTC · 5 likes
liz (@inerati): weakly? lol. this seems like the most obvious “fuck no” imaginable
I mean I’m conditioning on her in fact being hired, my claim is that Manifund made a wrong decision despite having much more info than me which imposes a high bar
Reply to @mrobdoesitall, 02:47 UTC · 1 like
MRob (@mrobdoesitall): Good bubble or bad bubble? I need to know which to tell my therapist.
Lol good
Reply to @wairhund, 02:51 UTC
wairhund (@wairhund): why
Because it’s evidence that you have similar peers and interests to me which seem to correlate very strongly with intelligence
Selection (including self-) effects in the US and west in general are just crazy strong
Reply to @inerati, 02:51 UTC · 1 like
liz (@inerati): it would have to be an absurd amount of positive impact
Well yeah
Reply to @adi_baradwaj, 04:06 UTC · 34 likes
Adi (@adi_baradwaj): Timnit Gebru should be one of the independent evaluators
image attached
(quoting @adi_baradwaj: METR is awesome, and is obviously the closest thing we have to an independent standards body for AI. Having them be one of the evaluators is a no-brainer It’s also true that METR staffers are largely ideologically aligned with OAI/Ant leadership regarding safety particulars like…)
Uh no? She’s insane and bad faith?
Retweet of @AlexPalcuie, 04:09 UTC
palcu (@AlexPalcuie): as someone who gets paged when claude breaks, i'd like to formally endorse the paragraph about taking more time to make it not break
Retweet of @NathanpmYoung, 04:13 UTC
Nathan 🔎 (@NathanpmYoung): If you want to counterbalance a group, you can spend 5 minutes choosing someone other than the most obvious worst faith candidate.
Reply to @AmeliaBarty, 04:37 UTC · 10 likes
Amelia Bartholomew (@AmeliaBarty): Has anyone noticed that a particular kind of neurotic nerdy white boy seems to disproportionately prone to freaking out about the AI apocalypse?
You almost never see Chinese or Indian AI researchers have public breakdowns like this. Or women.
White boys histrionics are taken uncritically by the public, which reinforces their delusions. While those other groups are quickly taught by the world to snap out of it
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(quoting @JoeJBenton: I left Anthropic's safety team two weeks ago. Now feels like a good moment to explain why. AI companies are racing to build machines that are much smarter than any human, and we may not survive this. I want to work from the outside to ensure the public is informed about these…)
Suppose there was a real issue you believed in and were worried about around some new technology whose industry is centered in San Francisco
Do you think neurotic nerdy white men would be overrepresented in that group too?
Reply to @AmeliaBarty, 04:39 UTC · 1 like
Amelia Bartholomew (@AmeliaBarty): Every doomsday movement needs an autistic European spokesperson
Very compelling
Reply to @eastsidedav, 04:41 UTC · 3 likes
dav (@eastsidedav): Can you explain how this played out? I'm looking at using taskrabbit for moving.
In messages after I requested to book the guy just said “oh yeah I will be charging the $225 “dumpster fee” (note that my job involves no dumpster) and 2 hours”
Reply to @xsphi, 04:45 UTC · 2 likes
tess (@xsphi): what does manifund have to do with EA? nothing about it seems at all effective to me. do EAs commonly give money to/through manifund???
A lot of people throw projects there but almost exclusively at least EA adjacent things get substantial funding based on a quick scroll of https://manifund.org
Which is good tbc - like that means the system is working (if there was good reason to fund the other stuff it would be EA-coded already, although ik some will disagree)
Retweet of @EigenGender, 04:54 UTC
EigenGender 🔸 (@EigenGender): up until now there has been a strong correlation between believing in existential risk from AI and having good epistemics. this is about to break down. this will probably be good for the world. It will also be incredibly annoying for me personally
Reply to @panickssery, 04:58 UTC · 1 like
Arjun Panickssery (@panickssery): Those regulations are also bad
Are they even for food quality issues that don’t manifest in such a way to easily tie back to restaurant?
I’m genuinely not sure here, dont have a strong view
Ofc the case for AI regs is much stronger
Reply to @Tyler_Menzer, 05:00 UTC · 1 like
Tyler Menzer (@Tyler_Menzer): So...your saying I can uniquely dial in exactly how expensive I want it to be for an LLM to visit my website...
Bc of read token price? I mean not necessarily, if they’re (self-)programmed to only read the first 10k characters then that’s all they’ll read on first fetch
Retweet of @ATabarrok, 05:01 UTC
Alex Tabarrok (@ATabarrok): Speaking as head of the Center for Study of Public Choice, the capture story for an AI pause doesn't fit. Reg capture is what you attempt when you're losing. Anthropic is about to have the biggest IPO in history. Winners don't lobby for regulation.
Reply to @eduleadership, 05:02 UTC · 1 like
Justin Baeder, PhD (@eduleadership): This is not the kind of thing educators would say, because obviously it could be interpreted as inappropriate, but it’s also the kind of thing where the people making it weird are being weirder than the original statement was. There is also obviously a charitable reading here.
Yeah
Reply to his own earlier tweet, 05:03 UTC
Aaron Bergman, September 13, 2026: Bc of read token price? I mean not necessarily, if they’re (self-)programmed to only read the first 10k characters then that’s all they’ll read on first fetch
But also, in fact this would partially work at least until it gets into the training data that people are writing 800k token “llm.txt” pages
Tweet, 05:10 UTC · 50 likes
Moving as a single person with <150 sq feet I even in principle keep stuff is taking up at least 1 full week of my time (incl a couple hours here and there over a couple months) and a good deal of money and I’m not done yet
Thread, continued, 05:10 UTC · 7 likes
Seems essentially impossible for a whole family to do the same from a place they’ve lived for say >3 years. And then it’s not just the extra stuff, you’ve gotta deal with the family!
Absolute nightmare, I cannot imagine, especially if money is tight. Tbf money solves a lot here
Reply to @karma_gardener, 05:27 UTC · 1 like
𝕂𝚊𝚛𝚖𝚊 ❀ 𝔾𝚊𝚛𝚍𝚎𝚗𝚎𝚛 (@karma_gardener): i moved from a place i'd been for twelve years and it
took me six full weeks, at least
Jesus
Reply to @MercurySchroepp, 05:27 UTC · 1 like
Nicole, Suburban Mom (@MercurySchroepp): Not for long. 🕺🏿🪩🐜🐜🐜🐜🐜🐜
Goss
Reply to @JgaltTweets, 06:05 UTC
JgaltTweets (@JgaltTweets): In Britain the trick is to hire some Bulgarian guys with a big van, and pay in cash
Lol the guys with big vans here tend to be Arab or at least have Muslim-coded names and look vaguely Arab in my n = 3 sample (but 3/3 isn’t nothing, so this is actually kinda interesting)
But am I supposed to ask a random Arab-looking guy on the street if he knows anyone, perhaps a brother or cousin, with a big van?
Reply to @MercurySchroepp, 06:08 UTC · 2 likes
Nicole, Suburban Mom (@MercurySchroepp): It’s worth it to have movers pack/unpack you.
Oh they’re doing that for heavy stuff if only bc I have an injury, but still
A lot of things it doesn’t make sense for, and also I’m rebuying furniture rather than paying like $180 to ship $200 items
Tbf I’m slightly taking the opportunity to organize things a bit and also am cost sensitive enough to not take the fastest route which would be “throw everything in one big box and hope for the best”
Reply to @karma_gardener, 06:09 UTC · 1 like
𝕂𝚊𝚛𝚖𝚊 ❀ 𝔾𝚊𝚛𝚍𝚎𝚗𝚎𝚛 (@karma_gardener): got my steps in, though, so can i really complain?
High key it’s kinda the sweet spot for me of physical activity that is hedonically positive
Obv it’s not gonna make me the worlds greatest athlete tho (sad)
Quote tweet, 06:21 UTC · 8 likes
Related: having strong takes on labor market effects without reference to the labor share (or amount, ideally both)
Quoting Andy Masley (@AndyMasley): A lot of people’s takeaway from the radiologist thing seems to be that AI won’t ever even shuffle around the number of people in different professions. This is a clear sign that the person’s thinking in memes and social passwords instead of just pausing for even a moment.
Thread, continued, 06:21 UTC · 4 likes
Also high key human radiologists are indeed going to wind up providing negative value in medicine at some point (likewise for me and almost everyone tbc in their respective domains)
Thread, continued, 06:21 UTC · 2 likes
They don’t get special protection from macro effects bc at one point a subset of people guessed wrong about the economics of a particular technological ecosystem across a range of a few years
Reply to @jannalulu_, 06:21 UTC · 3 likes
Janna (@jannalulu_): moving the first time always takes longer. you soon figure out systems of packing after a few moves :p
Yes move (2) will be taken care of by my army of embodied Claudes
Reply to @cynlioness, 06:23 UTC
Cyn 🔸⏸️ (@cynlioness): I've been playing a little bit more with gnc behavior - man scented deodorant, leading in partner dance, partially shaved head . I mean I always have but I took a bit of a break and now I'm back and it's awesome I love it.
Wait man *branded* deodorant right? Like ur not adding aerosolized testosterone bc it would be fascinating to see the social effects of that or are u
Reply to @seanta___, 06:46 UTC · 1 like
(The tweet being replied to by @seanta__ is no longer available.)_
Do people *like* using instagram though? Doesn’t everything point to it not actually making people’s lives better, especially for women?
I think I regret 80% of the time I spend on IG and like 25% here (despite spending way more here)
Also yeah I very much respect that “you want to date a guy with a vagina” meme (don’t think it characterizes me well though - I’m mostly just lamenting the lack of ability to easily share what I’m like via my twitter profile, not expressing disinterest in IG girls)
Tweet, 06:48 UTC · 12 likes
What if we learn that the theory of change of Anthropic was always etg
Reply to @cljack, 06:50 UTC · 4 likes
Charlotte Lee (@cljack): what’s a good open-source model for someone who’s just getting into having a metric shit ton of compute in her house
Wait what 👀
How much compute 👀
Do u have the cooling figured out👀
Can I have a small neighborly gift of 100k x B300 👀
Retweet of @austinc3301, 06:52 UTC
Agus 🔸 (@austinc3301): the people talking about regulatory capture to describe recent events in AI really need to think about what they're saying for like... more than a minute
it is quite plainly one of the most internally inconsistent conspiracy theories I've ever heard of
Reply to @SalehOfTomorrow, 15:10 UTC · 1 like
Saleh Hindi (@SalehOfTomorrow): Don’t ask random Arabs on the street in Berkeley to help unpack lol.
In the US the equivalent of this used to be going to Home Depot and asking the people loitering around in the parking lot with trucks for help bc they wait around for odd jobs. Post ICE I assume you can’t do this.
Lol ik it was a joke
Reply to @cynlioness, 15:10 UTC
Cyn 🔸⏸️ (@cynlioness): Yes man branded 😆 men tend to smell like men branded products
Real
Reply to @hotfemoid, 15:17 UTC
narrative violator (@hotfemoid): If you have friends in the city I would recommend hosting an unpacking party. I spent like an hour labeling where various items should be unpacked and then we were 90% unpacked in one day
Nice
Quote tweet, 17:29 UTC · 80 likes
Bro is signing with Redwood
Quoting Clavicular (@clavicular): For the first time in a while Ive really been contemplating my purpose on this earth. I know im on a divine path in someway, I know im more than a streamer who hits mogs at clubs.
Operating at a higher level to have a real impact.
Retweet of @mattyglesias, 17:38 UTC
Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias): We’ve got Bernie Sanders, the Pope, and the CEOs of the top AI companies all saying we need regulation and they’re facing off against an unholy alliance of VCs and antitrust obsessives.
Retweet of @TrueSlazac, 17:38 UTC
Slazac 🇪🇺🇺🇦🇹🇼🌐 (@TrueSlazac): anti-AI leftists who believe that any talk of existential risk is just a ploy to raise more money really piss me off, anyone who's knows SF people can tell how seriously they take this shit, it takes serious ignorance to believe it's all pretend
Retweet of @JeremiahDJohns, 17:39 UTC
Jeremiah Johnson 🌐 (@JeremiahDJohns): It continues to baffle me that we don't just treat this like a normal crime with normal liability.
OpenAI is routinely hacking other companies. These are crimes! But somehow the idea of holding them liable is just absent from the safety conversation, like agents don't count.
Retweet of @EAForumPosts, 17:41 UTC
EA Forum Posts (@EAForumPosts): "The "Desperate" AI Safety Talent Bottleneck is deeply misleading. Please.stop." by J
Quote tweet, 17:42 UTC · 75 likes
Yeah this is a correct take but way more correct about discrete job openings than anything else eg entrepreneurship
Quoting EA Forum Posts (@EAForumPosts): "The "Desperate" AI Safety Talent Bottleneck is deeply misleading. Please.stop." by J
Reply to @livgorton, 17:42 UTC · 1 like
Liv (@livgorton): when I moved to California I basically just threw out all the stuff I couldn't pack / had people pick stuff up for free on fb marketplace 💀 it is super annoying
Nice, do u want a broken scooter? Pickup near Rosslyn Target
Reply to @mrobdoesitall, 18:38 UTC · 2 likes
MRob (@mrobdoesitall): Credit Union?
Research
Reply to @crackalamoo, 18:39 UTC · 7 likes
Harys Dalvi (@crackalamoo): Is there a bottleneck in needing more AI safety organizations though?
Sorta, there’s more money and people who are able and willing to be managed than there is management capacity
Reply to @menhguin, 19:14 UTC · 3 likes
Minh Nhat Nguyen 🦭 (@menhguin): The entire AI capex cycle depends on whether next gen models (Fable-tier) unlock exponentially more token spend.
Open source models are "good enough" for most day-to-day work, so closed source spend has to be a step function better AND result in more token spend.(quoting @menhguin: thinking harder about this, the most likely outcome IMO: 1. strong compute shortages force cost-performance over capabilities 2. open source models continue to cross threshold of usefulness 3. more compute crunch, less revenue growth for closed models 4. frontier labs taper off)
Open source models are not good enough lol
They’re helpful, I sometimes use Kimi, but day to day work is often substantially improved almost arbitrarily by more intelligence
Reply to @MariGO2thepolls, 19:15 UTC · 1 like
🏳️🌈Mar G-O 🌐🇺🇦 (@MariGO2thepolls): Ah I wore pants to stay topical and it ficki is sucks it’s so hot and I wanna rip off my skin how to ppl do this. Shorts and dresses are the only acceptable clothes
Correct take
Reply to @ArmandDoma, 19:50 UTC · 8 likes
Armand Domalewski (@ArmandDoma): this is genuinely the most insane ad I have ever seen. it gets crazier every second you watch https://x.com/Diego_exits/status/2098483736006234555/video/1
Lol fwiw oregano oil *does* check out as an antimicrobial, I’ve used it before as an experiment, for like 0.1% or 1% of people it would probably nontrivially improve QoL
Needless to say, it’s not The One Thing for almost anyone; for some people a trial might check out
Thread, continued, 19:51 UTC · 5 likes
Also I’m guessing I shouldn’t show this to my black ~aunt in an otherwise Ashkenazi family but there’s a decent chance she’d find it hilarious
Quote tweet, 21:14 UTC · 30 likes
Sounds like AI 2027 was too conservative (not just this, politics in general + agent attacks + probably more)
As of now, ofc - I hope this changes but don’t expect it to
Quoting Evan Gorelick (@EvanGorelick): Scoop: Obama implored Democratic leaders to move A.I. oversight to the center of the party's agenda, warning during a private fundraiser this past week that the technology could be “dangerous” if they do not get on top of it. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/13/us/politics/obama-democrats-ai.html
Tweet, 21:15 UTC · 40 likes
People who’s dominant goal in life is acquiring money (or at least routes through that) are unsurprisingly shocked when not everyone else operates that way, particularly among the already ultrawealthy (who are strongly selected for caring a lot about acquiring money)
Reply to @LeRoyDesCimes, 21:21 UTC · 2 likes
Louise 🔸 (@LeRoyDesCimes): Funny how we fell into a norm of never sorting our phone pictures into folders, and we're only now starting to get rescued by AI classification. The standard is still remembering when a picture was taken (deranged), or else scrolling till your thumb breaks down
Image embedding models help but it’s a bit too much hassle to integrate into iOS (less hassle for photos stored on a laptop)
Tweet, 23:03 UTC · 18 likes
(Unsolicited) testimonial about vibecoded EA forum semantic search (with bulk download for all your data needs)
https://eaforum.up.railway.app
Monday, September 14, 2026
Reply to @SalehOfTomorrow, 00:11 UTC · 1 like
Saleh Hindi (@SalehOfTomorrow): I’ll help you move. I’m the random Arab on the street that people ask to help them move
(quoting @AaronBergman18: @JgaltTweets Lol the guys with big vans here tend to be Arab or at least have Muslim-coded names and look vaguely Arab in my n = 3 sample (but 3/3 isn’t nothing, so this is actually kinda interesting) But am I supposed to ask a random Arab-looking guy on the street if he knows…)
Lmao
Reply to @chaotictransfem, 01:10 UTC · 3 likes
rachel📍in sf oct 5-10 (@chaotictransfem): i am in no way a doomer/safetycel/etc. but at a certain point we have to ask where we draw the line with a major lab intentionally hiding the felonies its models have committed from the public.
(quoting @tenobrus: openai has *repeatedly* been not consistent candid about the crimes their model swarms committed)
What should I do to convert u to safetycel
Retweet of @livgorton, 01:11 UTC
Liv (@livgorton): clavicular creates an independent auditing org?
Reply to @marcusabramovi1, 01:16 UTC · 5 likes
Marcus Abramovitch (@marcusabramovi1): I often hear people say that some group is underpaid; AI safety people who work at non-profits, teachers, cops, government officials, etc.
If they are underpaid, then who is overpaid to compensate for this?
We dont just get to print money from thin air.
(quoting @AlecStapp: If we used the same formula that Singapore does to pay its ministers, then the President would make $45 million a year and cabinet secretaries would make $22.5 million a year. Contrarian take: We drastically underpay our senior government leaders and we get what we pay for.)
Lol (1) everyone else, (2) much of finance, (3) heirs of the wealthy, (4) landlords, (5) random other subsets of the economy that are negative or close to negative via negative externalities or extracting full willingness to pay, (5) the ultrawealthy (the lefties are right on this although mostly for wrong reasons) and more generally owners of capital (to a lesser extent)
Reply to @chaotictransfem, 01:29 UTC · 1 like
rachel📍in sf oct 5-10 (@chaotictransfem): maybe tell me what you expect to happen over the next few years?
I basically defer to @DKokotajlo (but consider this like a considered deference, not a generic “idk shit” one)
I expect by 2035:
- labor share of US and global economy has greatly decreased and almost nobody (say <10% adult population) earns a living by working
- industrial automation and proper superintelligence
- functionally giving control to AI systems (even if nominally there’s a human at the top) of the military, almost all businesses, and almost all of finance
- weakly expect at least one synthetic pathogen to kill more than COVID (or more lost DALYs or whatever you want to use)
For more concrete stories, check out https://www.aifutures.org but in general the “proper superintelligence” and “controls most of military, finance, business, and probably other systems I’m forgetting” makes it possible for AIs to achieve things that they want to, in general
Overall I’d guess very roughly something like 30% chance of literal human extinction, 45% chance of some other bad outcome downstream of AI (eg around digital sentience, wild animal suffering spread throughout the universe, humans generally disempowered and virtually anything can be and sometimes is vetoed by something like an AI system)
25% chance left over!
Thread, continued, 02:44 UTC
I guess this is conditional on no simulation by interested outer world, someone smart should figure out what happens if there is an interested outer world
Reply to @morallawwithin, 02:54 UTC · 56 likes
florence ⊮ (@morallawwithin): cope
(quoting @patriach2051: )
lol a literal rule of “never lie” has never been considered morally plausible by anyone serious
You don’t have to invent secret 4d epicycles where the question is a lie, it’s just straightforwardly morally good to lie sometimes
Reply to @dlbydq, 04:01 UTC · 2 likes
Anish Tondwalkar (@dlbydq): with all the concerns about METR being too EA, I have an alternative proposal for independent evaluators. @MechanizeWork !
I hope this is a joke
Reply to @dlbydq, 04:38 UTC · 1 like
Anish Tondwalkar (@dlbydq): but I think they'd be very good at it in particular
I’m sure they’re excellent at whatever they’re trying to accomplish, but they’re a for-profit company with no indication of intended neutrality and literally trillions of dollars of conflict of interest
I also think they’re being irresponsible but that’s kind of besides the point here
Reply to @dlbydq, 05:06 UTC · 1 like
Anish Tondwalkar (@dlbydq): that bit about responsibility is exactly the point of the joke; this is what a honest but ideologically unaligned auditor might look like
Oh lmao autistic moment
Reply to @panickssery, 05:50 UTC · 1 like
Arjun Panickssery (@panickssery): How does this indicate ai2027 was too conservative
This political shift isn’t supposed to have happened yet, right?
Tweet, 06:11 UTC · 24 likes
Animal welfare should be mostly understood as under the umbrella of AI rather than opposed to it
Thread, continued, 06:11 UTC · 8 likes
AI-pilled animal welfare shouldn’t have niche “interdisciplinary studies” vibes and funding levels, the AI-pilled part is just contending with the world as it is now instead of in 2015, and animals are probably most of what matters today
Thread, continued, 06:11 UTC · 3 likes
Looms like @sentfutures, the main org I know of in this space, has been given like maybe like $500k total, ever
Rethink does some work, presumably I’m missing some others
Thread, continued, 06:11 UTC · 1 like
Everyone who’s thinking of applying to Tailwind should take a serious look at this niche just because it’s radically neglected even within EA
Reply to his own earlier tweet, 06:11 UTC
Aaron Bergman, September 10, 2026: Lol a decent (but insufficient) number of people are messaging me and realizing they’re more qualified than I am in various domains, although admittedly I may…
👀🐓
Tweet, 06:17 UTC · 5 likes
Why are designer brands always like “Viche Bará” and never “David Goldberg”
Reply, 06:32 UTC · 7 likes
Nathan 🔎 (@NathanpmYoung): I think both can be true
(quoting @EAForumPosts: "The "Desperate" AI Safety Talent Bottleneck is deeply misleading. Please.stop." by J)
Desperate for IQ 190 workaholics
Reply to @LabGrownNeet, 06:32 UTC · 1 like
laს გr🤗wn იeet (@LabGrownNeet): I offer every friend, guest, or date drugs and essentially no one takes them. Its like being a VC. Most dont hit, but once in a while someone is like "i really like the black ginger!!"
At least, thats how it was..
Now you're all getting custom AMVs about my jew magic fixing you
(quoting @ArmandDoma: this is genuinely the most insane ad I have ever seen. it gets crazier every second you watch https://x.com/Diego_exits/status/2098483736006234555/video/1)
What drugs?
Reply, 06:35 UTC · 3 likes
Jacques (@JacquesThibs): There’s literally no alignment research podcast
Not the same thing but if you have a collection/source of text-based sources you’d want to compile as audio into a unified podcast feed I could probably do that
Eg these substacks, + anything on LW with these tags and this much karma + PDFs by Anthropic
Reply, 06:36 UTC · 3 likes
etherret🐾 (@witchof0x20): I mean it's pretty hard to get your hands on those
I could use a few myself,
Reply, 06:38 UTC · 7 likes
Nina (@NinaPanickssery): > we are unapologetically on Team Humanity, and AI must always serve people
One thing I respect about OAI is its clear pro human sentiment
(quoting @sama: There are two ways AI progress could go very badly and that we must avoid. First, we could lose control of the future to AI. This is unacceptable; we are unapologetically on Team Humanity, and AI must always serve people. To ensure that, we need ways to ensure that alignment and…)
Its clear pro-human comms
Their lobbyists are fighting hard to make sure there are no constraints on OpenAI whatsoever
Reply, 06:44 UTC · 15 likes
Nathan 🔎 (@NathanpmYoung): Deregulate nuclear. Deregulate Housing. Deregulation planning. More markets. Billionaires are generally good. Unions are often bad.
I’m an EA and Marxist-Leninism ain’t what it used to be.
(quoting @ssankar: EA AI safetyism increasingly looks like Marxism-Leninism for the algorithmic age. The old vanguard claimed privileged knowledge of the inevitable course of History. The new one claims privileged knowledge of the probabilistic course of Humanity. Both use an elaborate…)
I have a draft tweet thread on this but billionaires are generally bad
Not categorically, like they *could* be good, and some are, but as a matter of fact most are unfathomably selfish to a point that’s rightly criticized even under the capitalist umbrella
Yes this takes into account the fact that wealth is tied up in real capital, I’m not suggesting they liquidate, I’m suggesting they dedicate less than 99.9% of their estate to heirs
Retweet of @NathanpmYoung, 06:45 UTC
Nathan 🔎 (@NathanpmYoung): People don’t realise how deep the AI safety bench is. Yud cared about this in 2002. The community has been growing for a decade. Of course they have policy people.
Reply to @MatriceJacobine, 06:53 UTC
Matrice Jacobine🔸🏳️⚧️⏸️ (@MatriceJacobine): Animal rights are AI rights
Wat
Retweet of @aliceisplaying, 07:02 UTC
alice (@aliceisplaying): i'm now looking for a cofounder and people who want to fund it or have leads. dm me
Reply, 07:03 UTC · 2 likes
alice (@aliceisplaying): i'm now looking for a cofounder and people who want to fund it or have leads. dm me
(quoting @aliceisplaying: since im considering getting into ai safety maybe its time for me to start a non-ea research company, unironically)
Why company
There’s a lot of grant money available
Reply, 07:06 UTC · 13 likes
Aprii *️⃣ (@ApriiSR): i'm unsure how i feel about this
like in principle i think i should be allowed to agree to work for 40 hours without overtime pay, obviously?
but also maybe there's a collective action problem here
(quoting @pubity: Bernie Sanders has introduced a new bill that would reduce the standard US work week to 32 hours instead of 40. If it gets fully implemented, anyone working past the 32 hour mark would get mandatory overtime pay.)
Same issues as minimum wage
The way to make people less economically desperate is to transfer them money, tactics that *constrain* the ability of workers to make deals aren’t literally impossible to be better but you need a 5d underwater chess theory of change for them to make sense
Like you don’t have to worry about accidentally making people worse off by giving them money from US treasury funded by taxes, but you do for “it’s illegal for you to sign this type of contract”
Retweet of @XyraSinclair, 07:06 UTC
Xyra 🌺🦡📡 (@XyraSinclair): Scry is getting _fast_ and ergonomic. It doesn't replace every traditional agent web fetch, but it makes it trivial to run analyses over the internet.
like how lesswrong vs ea forum vs substack vs HN vs .. is reacting to Manifund's recent hiring.
Reply, 07:08 UTC · 4 likes
Leveling-Down Justice Warrior (@irrepldjw): How can you be Altruist and capitalist on the same time?Like, word has meaning.
I make money by selling people goods and services and then spend some of it on others rather than myself
Reply, 07:08 UTC · 2 likes
Aprii *️⃣ (@ApriiSR): i agree this is clearly worse than UBI
You don’t even have to go to UBI tbc, like just a modest negative income tax has the same relevant properties
Reply to @LabGrownNeet, 07:57 UTC · 1 like
laს გr🤗wn იeet (@LabGrownNeet): I hand out vitamin D skin patches to basically everyone because I live in Seattle. There's no known reason that this should be more efficacious than pills. But I like it. And some people report that they find themselves actually using it whereas they dont take vit d pills
Lol based
Retweet of @mattyglesias, 14:19 UTC
Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias): My most important message to OpenAI employees concerned about safety — you need to convince your bosses to stop funding Leading The Future and if you can’t you should quit.
https://www.slowboring.com/p/a-simple-plan-to-save-the-world-from
Reply to @sheherenow_, 14:27 UTC
jem 💜🩵🩷 (@sheherenow_): have you ever been to beverly hills
No 😔
Reply to @JgaltTweets, 14:27 UTC · 1 like
JgaltTweets (@JgaltTweets): Marvel at the exoticism of "Paul Smith" https://www.mrporter.com/en-gb/mens/designer/paul-smith?orderBy=9&pageNumber=1
Fair
Reply, 15:08 UTC · 2 likes
tom bombadil (@Authw8): constraining workers can make sense if you model this as workers using the tools of democratic politics to solve collective action problems inside their coalition
I agree in principle but you’re almost always harming some subset of the people you’re trying to help
Tweet, 15:19 UTC · 6 likes
This lobbying ad (over Childhood Diabetes Reduction Act (S. 5026) which recently passed committee thank u Claude) actually does lead me wonder why Americans don’t eat that much candy
Thread, continued, 15:19 UTC · 3 likes
Tbc I’m sure their^ numbers are cooked in some way but like even if you 10x them
You just don’t see American adults eating candy the way they drink (non-diet) soda and fried foods (at least IME)
Thread, continued, 15:19 UTC · 2 likes
The model can’t be that they’re super health conscious and candy tastes good so like what gives
Reply to @caryatis, 15:20 UTC
Kayla (@caryatis): Me at EAG looking for career advice: here's my background, open to anything except AI
Then: Oh, hmm...are you sure you don't want to do AI safety? Let me tell you about AI...
***
I don't get this drive to push more and more people into AI safety. Yeah yeah I know, it's the only thing that matters 🙄 But if you think AI safety is very important, shouldn't you want competent, qualified, and interested people working in it? Rather than people at the margin who get into the field because of social pressure or because they can't think of anything else to do or because that's where the money is?(quoting @AaronBergman18: Everybody shut up and go do this I’m only slightly overstating^, if you’re reading this you should very seriously consider applying in a much stronger sense than every other “consider applying” post you see)
Yeah I think the actual argument which tbf I didn’t make is “conditional on being convinced by this argument” which is weird and self-referential
Reply to @SALTWATERSOPH, 15:22 UTC
Sophie (@SALTWATERSOPH): Big week for second chances. Caroline Ellison at Manifund, Rachel Dolezal becoming a certified sex coach… who next?
Meeeeeee
Retweet of @micah_erfan, 15:23 UTC
Micah Erfan (@micah_erfan): Every time he has the opportunity to rise to the occasion, he falls miserably flat.
We genuinely could not have a worse leader.
Retweet of @PaleoOnc, 15:28 UTC
Paleoncologist (@PaleoOnc): When you log into a chart to do something important, like order an xray or a medicine …
Popups like these that immediately appear when you log in, and force you to answer questions completely unrelated to why you are there, keep the practice of medicine fresh and exciting
Hiding the answer in a long list of random options in small print that varies from one popup to the next really tests your reading comprehension
Making the buttons extra small gives you an opportunity to practice your hand eye coordination and mouse clicking skills
Pre-selecting an answer by admin adds some “skin in the game”, knowing that if you carelessly accept, you can be liable for an order you didn’t even intend!
And forcing us to deal with distractions when we are attending to patient care really hones your concentration
It’s challenges like these that only add to the joy of using an EMR
Retweet of @cljack, 15:28 UTC
Charlotte Lee (@cljack): Massive regulatory failure that "medical errors due to shitty EMR UX" apparently isn't tracked anywhere, let alone punished
Retweet of @john__allard, 15:28 UTC
john allard (@john__allard): pov: you’re about to read the most confidently incurious, transparently self-serving, afternoon-ruining take you’ve ever seen
Retweet of @MichaelKiwi77, 15:29 UTC
MichaelKiwi (@MichaelKiwi77): I still hold the faintest of hopes, we can have some bipartisan cooperation. However, I don’t understand how it wasn’t, very, very obvious that Dems would always be the better party for AI safety. If Harris were president right now, the prospect for good progress would be high.
Retweet of @AndrewCurran_, 15:30 UTC
Andrew Curran (@AndrewCurran_): @linamkhan What a timeline.
Reply to @PeterJAngel, 15:33 UTC · 1 like
Peter🧅📈 (@PeterJAngel): What's the logic here? Immanentize the escahtion, and then AI solves factory farming?
Nah, that AI and animal welfare don’t compete in a conceptual sense: the former is just an important part of the world, and the latter is a class of beneficiaries
Reply, 15:34 UTC · 2 likes
Dr. Frasier Crane… from the radio (@catgirl4romney): This was not how I expected a moma tweet beginning with “the hole is the point” to conclude as I scrolled down
Lmao I had the exact same take
Retweet of @RichardHanania, 16:54 UTC
Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania): Trumpist corruption is just a completely different category from all that came before. https://www.richardhanania.com/p/why-the-media-is-pro-trump-yes-you
Retweet of @BishopPair, 16:55 UTC
Dan (@BishopPair): It is some sort of sick, cosmic joke that we got *this* administration at the hinge of history
Reply to @PeterJAngel, 17:31 UTC · 1 like
Peter🧅📈 (@PeterJAngel): Interesting this link OP put up says ≈1500 (also credit to OP for actually posting links)
Ok Dario is back
Reply to @johnsmithyson0, 17:31 UTC · 1 like
John Smith (@johnsmithyson0): Looking nice is important to being a CEO imo
😢
Reply to @NathanpmYoung, 17:47 UTC · 1 like
Nathan 🔎 (@NathanpmYoung): I think good means 'has been good for the world' and generally I think they are far better than the typical person. They have created a lot of value!
It’s never clear in a counterfactual sense, eg we don’t observe the Jeff Bezos who’d have come along to fill the niche if Amazon hadn’t started
So some value, usually, if they’re not heirs to a fortune and don’t exploit negative externalities
But sure, then they’re usually good but still extraordinarily, anti-socially selfish
Reply to @adrusi, 18:07 UTC
autumn (@adrusi): why
nice things are nice
also the man obviously has a publicist, who probably picks his wardrobe for big appearances
Fair, it’s a very small update
Reply to @NathanpmYoung, 18:10 UTC
Nathan 🔎 (@NathanpmYoung): Sure but money is a tool to judge that kind of problem. Someone who came after could have raised.
Money is a proxy for shapley values, right?
I don’t think so, not in general
First mover advantages are big
Reply, 18:18 UTC · 2 likes
Louise 🔸 (@LeRoyDesCimes): When I was 15 I decided it was bad to emit judgements, even positive ones, and I should avoid all judgemental thoughts regardless of valence, and anyway that's the story of how I spent a month having no thoughts
Wat
Reply to @NathanpmYoung, 18:19 UTC
Nathan 🔎 (@NathanpmYoung): And first movers are valuable. I am glad that many billionaires companies happened 6 months earlier.
Right, I’m just saying that those 6 months might be 5% or 10% of the actual profit accrued
Reply to @NathanpmYoung, 18:25 UTC
Nathan 🔎 (@NathanpmYoung): I dunno. how valuable is it to have amazon 6 months earlier. It might be 100B right?
I mean maybe, probably in the 10s of billions. But Bezos is worth almost $300B
Reply to @tautologer, 18:26 UTC · 1 like
tautologer (@tautologer): it's ~$2500 this is totally reasonable for someone in his position tbh. honestly for me the negative update would be that he's wearing a plain white tee underneath it. if you want people to take you seriously you need to dress like it
Ah ok you’re the second person confirming it’s not actually more than a car, deleting
Reply, 18:30 UTC · 9 likes
Alex Berish (@AlexBerish): despite how nice the name sounds, it’s literally a cult
(Just like “Scientology” has nothing to do with science)
I think you have the IQ not to merely pattern match
I call it a cult as a joke, but if you think it’s relevantly similar to the central examples of “cults” then that’s just not true. Is YC a cult?
Reply to @NathanpmYoung, 18:34 UTC · 2 likes
Nathan 🔎 (@NathanpmYoung): So your case is that every billionaire probably has 10x their wealth undeserved and they aren't using that well?
Eh i mean i kinda wanna say “yes” but im not sure desert is the right framework here. To what extent do I deserve a certain wage, for instance? It’s not in the ontology of economics
The real thing is just “payout >>>>> EV, rolled the cosmic lucky dice, then utter failure to take their own power seriously”
Retweet of @bellaforristal, 20:23 UTC
Bella Forristal 🔸 (@bellaforristal): Just... leaving this here....
Retweet of @jeffrsebo, 20:24 UTC
Jeff Sebo (@jeffrsebo): If I worked at Microsoft, I would be concerned by its new code of conduct, and I would want to use the feedback process to push for changes. Already, I would have been disappointed with how much confidence @mustafasuleyman has expressed about AI consciousness over the past year. But seeing that stance reflected in company policy, including a categorical rejection of the idea that models might warrant welfare or rights, would deepen my concern. I would urge Microsoft to reconsider.
The policy acknowledges that "the science of AI consciousness is far from settled," but it sandwiches this acknowledgement between an assertion that AI systems are not conscious and a denial that they might deserve welfare or rights. These claims are in tension, since uncertainty about consciousness supports uncertainty about welfare and rights. In short, treating the science as settled is overconfident, and if the science is unsettled, then treating welfare and rights as a nonstarter is cruel, as @camhberg notes.
This policy could also be bad for safety, since if the goal is to mitigate the risk of misuse and loss of control, then treating AI systems as mere tools regardless of their capabilities is not going to accomplish that. It may even be counterproductive, insofar as it distorts understanding of capabilities and undermines opportunities for human-AI cooperation as a safety strategy. Indeed, this is part of why Simon Goldstein, @petersalib, and others have argued for AI rights on safety grounds, even setting side welfare.
To be clear, I agree with Microsoft that AI systems are unlikely to be conscious at present, that false positives are more likely than false negatives at present, and that false positives can cause a lot of harm. But false negatives will become more likely over time, and they could cause serious harm as well. When there are risks in both directions at once, we should follow the evidence and arguments, and we should implement proportionate mitigations in both directions at once, not mitigate one risk by ignoring the other.
I appreciate that Microsoft is still seeking feedback, and I hope employees take the opportunity to raise these concerns internally. So far, Microsoft has sought input from many people, including me, but the current policy hews closely to its leader's view. A broader range of views would help ensure that the policy reflects the importance and difficulty of the issue. These scientific, ethical, and political questions call for caution and humility, and I hope Microsoft uses this feedback process to reconsider its approach.
Retweet of @mattyglesias, 20:25 UTC
Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias): If you work in AI and are concerned about safety you can’t *just* tweet and sign open letters, you need to use your leverage at work to change the constellation of lobbying forces.
https://www.slowboring.com/p/a-simple-plan-to-save-the-world-from
Reply to @Lib_Development, 20:28 UTC · 1 like
Lucas Pombo (aka Lib Development) (@Lib_Development): Meet my "bouncy castle" in the shape of a mobile SAM launcher which emits an IR signature
(quoting @PhotonRay1: I know everyone’s big on “Many Engines in My Factory” lady, but may I introduce you all to “Heated inflatable bouncy castle” lady?)
Lmao this is kinda nuts
Reply to @RichardHanania, 20:31 UTC · 13 likes
Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania): I CAN ALREADY BUY VEGETABLES
Wait this is a fine point lol, evidently they’ve figured out how to pick vegetables if they wind up available for sale
Quote tweet, 20:32 UTC · 78 likes
We’re fucking cooked
Quoting Ben Pouladian (@benitoz): Holy crap POTUS just phoned in @JensenHuang live on stage at All In Summit
We will not lose the ai race! And whatever Dario said this weekend won’t stop our progress
This made my morning!
$NVDA
Reply to @caryatis, 22:26 UTC · 3 likes
Kayla (@caryatis): Male sexuality isn't about sex with women anymore, it's about watching other men have sex with women
(quoting @ejdickson: Maddie Kowalski was 19 years old when anonymous men on X posted a pornographic video of her without her consent. It went viral nationally, and was viewed 8.5 million times. For months, she had no idea who did it or why. So she made it her mission to find out. 🧵)
Uh I don’t think this is true in general lol
Tuesday, September 15, 2026
Retweet of @wblazer_, 02:56 UTC
will (@wblazer_): @AaronBergman18 100%, we also need more AI safety people to get animal welfare pilled. I agree that animals are probably most of what matters today based on sheer quantity, and decisions impacting them will increasingly be delegated to AI. Compassion toward animals should be part of alignment targets (after all, we are animals)
Reply to @dioscuri, 02:56 UTC · 9 likes
Henry Shevlin (@dioscuri): my wife was showing me a funny tweet on her phone. I told her “oh I actually replied to this” but then I couldn’t find my reply. so I checked her settings and she had exactly one account muted and it was me
Lmaoooo
Reply to @GeringerAdam, 02:56 UTC · 9 likes
Adam Geringer (@GeringerAdam): One of the consequences of becoming a father is I have had to cut my credit score crashing experiment short.
Remarkable how quickly things can turn around
Wait what
Explain
Reply to @Lib_Development, 02:57 UTC · 3 likes
Lucas Pombo (aka Lib Development) (@Lib_Development): Just made a Scott Alexander reference IN PERSON and the other person KNEW WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT
DC IS THE GREATEST CITY IN THE WORLD*
🔥
Reply to @Lib_Development, 02:57 UTC · 1 like
Lucas Pombo (aka Lib Development) (@Lib_Development): Just made a Scott Alexander reference IN PERSON and the other person KNEW WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT
DC IS THE GREATEST CITY IN THE WORLD*
Legend has it there’s an upcoming Georgetown ACX meetup (I’m not sure if it’s open to outsiders tho)
Quote tweet, 03:05 UTC · 34 likes
Blackpill on IQ, coming from Doctorow
Quoting Taylor Lorenz (@TaylorLorenz): Cory Doctorow's new post on whether AI will kill humanity
Reply to @inerati, 05:42 UTC · 1 like
liz (@inerati): i am sympathetic as i also think it’s important to be compassionate to animals but this seems like largely a distraction and not related to the alignment problem? at least not any more than any other moral concern
It’s exactly as related to the alignment problem as “human welfare”
Maybe you want to call that zero but like a human welfare movement that doesn’t take AI seriously as a core determinant of human welfare isn’t a very effective movement
Likewise for animals
Tweet, 06:01 UTC · 145 likes
It’s telling that I think I’ve literally never heard a critic of AI safety make the point that EA AI-oriented spending has a very high opportunity cost in terms of animal welfare and the global poor (which is true)
Thread, continued, 06:01 UTC · 22 likes
A stylized version could include the narrative “a cult tricked genuine altruist Dustin Moskovitz into funding their pet projects over genuine beneficiaries, basically stealing from the poor”
Thread, continued, 06:01 UTC · 15 likes
^I don’t think that’s true but it’s structurally similar to the true claim “a group of people convinced genuine altruist Dustin Moskovitz to fund projects they are often directly involved with which probably does counterfactually mean less spending on the poor”
Thread, continued, 06:01 UTC · 17 likes
I think this is the most natural critique of AI safety by anyone serious, well-intentioned, and well-informed, and yet *gestures to the whole discourse-sphere*
Reply to @inerati, 06:05 UTC · 1 like
liz (@inerati): i think you want it aligned to human values, which has treating animals well as part of it, but not necessarily the interests of the animals directly. although this may be somewhat specific to my moral philosophy.
Sure, there are relevant differences between the beneficiary groups, but my point is in both cases it makes sense to center AI *bc it’s an important feature of the world*
You can even conceptualize it as there being (1) an abstract alignment problem of how one gets exogenously-determined values into an AI system, (2) human welfare about which ~solving 1 is necessary but not sufficient, and (3) animal welfare about which ~solving 1 is necessary but not sufficient
It’s a bit like trying to do
Reply to @InVitroFuture, 06:34 UTC · 2 likes
Macrophysiological System🐀 (@InVitroFuture): .@dylanmatt wrote and then recanted this take fwiw https://dylanmatthews.substack.com/p/the-ai-people-have-been-right-a-lot
Not a critic of AI safety tho right
Reply to @anglerfish01, 06:34 UTC · 1 like
angLerfish (@anglerfish01): Have you been on r/effectivealtruism before?
Lol it’s been a while
Reply to @TejasReal, 06:34 UTC · 2 likes
Tejas Subramaniam (@TejasReal): I’ve heard this all the time (the opportunity cost generally framed in terms of global health rather than animal welfare).
By people who are actively critical of AI safety?
Reply to @NathanpmYoung, 13:41 UTC · 1 like
Nathan 🔎 (@NathanpmYoung): I am an author on a paper.
image attached
(quoting @NathanpmYoung: Paper here: https://aiimpacts.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/ESPAI2024.pdf)
🍾
Reply to @LabGrownNeet, 13:46 UTC · 1 like
laს გr🤗wn იeet (@LabGrownNeet): Aella claims Slutcon has a 1:1 gender ratio and is actively turning away women
Let them in!! No one is illegal on swollen glans
Lmao
Reply to @lfschiavo, 13:48 UTC
Larissa Schiavo (@lfschiavo): Anyone wanna help me put up my 12ft skeleton and then put a Claude in there
Yes
Retweet of @bubbling_creek, 13:48 UTC
bubbling creek (@bubbling_creek): This may be the least dignified possible way for humanity to go extinct
Retweet of @nosilverv, 13:52 UTC
Guy (@nosilverv): Bruh I was at the very first EA summit in 2013, we were like 50 people in a house in California, and now the Department of WAR is taking shots at EA, life comes at you FAST
Tweet, 13:53 UTC · 36 likes
Help I am in shambles
Quote tweet, 13:55 UTC · 36 likes
I fucking resent this (the corruption, not the tweet)
Quoting Aprii *️⃣ (@ApriiSR): actually wait maybe openai donating to trump was important
i would hate to have to hand it to them for that but
Reply to @credenzaclear2, 13:58 UTC · 4 likes
(The tweet being replied to by @credenzaclear2 is no longer available.)
Do u have a better idea
Quote tweet, 14:06 UTC · 22 likes
Correct take, young Aaron
Quoting Aaron Bergman 🔍 (@AaronBergman18): This is less ambitious than what @PauseAI and friends are calling for, but a somewhat more plausible ask is “pause (frontier) AI until the next POTUS election” or at least “no self-improving AGI” until than
Reply to @InVitroFuture, 14:07 UTC · 1 like
Macrophysiological System🐀 (@InVitroFuture): Well, he was at the time, or at least of devoting undue resources to it.
Since the kind of people who consider bednet opportunity costs:=EAs, what you're saying here is that EA critics of the AI safety cause area have all updated away from this position these days? Which, yeah
Ah ok, then I have now!
Reply to @TejasReal, 14:07 UTC · 1 like
Tejas Subramaniam (@TejasReal): Yes! Very critical. I often heard this as a general criticism of the movement, that they were trading off present children’s lives for investments in AI safety.
Ah interesting, thanks
Reply to @eric23332, 14:08 UTC
Eric23332 (@eric23332): I think AI is a bigger threat to the global poor than e.g. malaria at the moment! (But yes I still donate to AMF or similar because I don't know of better AI safety donation opportunities)
Yeah I should have added this point to the thread - at the very least it’s unclear
Reply to @credenzaclear2, 14:36 UTC · 2 likes
(The tweet being replied to by @credenzaclear2 is no longer available.)
I’m not sure God is doing a great job rn
Reply to his own earlier tweet, 14:37 UTC · 10 likes
Aaron Bergman, September 15, 2026: Help I am in shambles
It’s a reference to trumps latest Truth post
I’m not really in shambles
Reply to @BogdanIonutCir2, 14:37 UTC · 2 likes
Bogdan Ionut Cirstea (@BogdanIonutCir2): =)) young = 1.5 years ago - though fair in AI time
I was basically a toddler
Reply to @TaylorLorenz, 14:46 UTC · 13 likes
Taylor Lorenz (@TaylorLorenz): I think that any coverage of these AI "whistleblowers" should interrogate the insanely well funded cult ideology that they've been marinating in for years https://www.thefp.com/p/dangerous-ideology-effective-altruism-artificial-intelligence
This is a bad take
Reply to @nosilverv, 14:52 UTC · 9 likes
Guy (@nosilverv): Just setting the record straight: EA has more or less been explicitly Democrat aligned since at least 2016 when Rob Wiblin (Head of Research at 80,000 Hours, prev CEO of the Centre for Effective Altruism) was advocating for voting for Hillary as a top EA intervention.
Trump is a uniquely bad president, it wasn’t an Obama vs Romney race
Retweet of @AlecStapp, 14:58 UTC
Alec Stapp (@AlecStapp): The idea that Jensen cares about keeping the US ahead of China in AI is laughable.
NVIDIA lobbies very hard in DC to be allowed to sell more AI chips to China.
Last year, when @FareedZakaria asked Jensen if it matters who wins the AI race, he said: "I don't think it does."
Reply to his own earlier tweet, 15:55 UTC · 6 likes
Aaron Bergman, September 15, 2026: I think this is the most natural critique of AI safety by anyone serious, well-intentioned, and well-informed, and yet *gestures to the whole discourse-sphere*
* I should have said *current* critics of AI safety
Plenty of people with EA made this point several years ago
Reply to @ComInTheMarg, 20:38 UTC · 1 like
Comments in the Margin (@ComInTheMarg): Me, I say this all the time. I'm not exactly a critic of AI safety, but yeah, I think too many resources going to that vs animals. Also i'm not famous or anything lol, but maybe I said this to you once
Right, the key point here is that you’re not a critic of AI safety!
Reply to @marcusabramovi1, 20:39 UTC · 3 likes
Marcus Abramovitch (@marcusabramovi1): FWIW, Mechanize people make this case.
Id like to see their donation receipts
Reply to his own earlier tweet, 20:40 UTC
Aaron Bergman, September 15, 2026: Help I am in shambles
?
Reply to @KhemianSilap, 20:45 UTC · 1 like
Khemian (@KhemianSilap): Because I don't think EA people actually care about animal welfare or the global poor. Duh. EA 'people' only care about amassing power, everything they say is just instrumental - noise.
Lol I can’t speak for literally everyone who identifies as an effective altruist but this is in general totally wrong, and people give away their real money to these causes which sure would be a strange way to gain power
This raised over $100k for instance
Reply to @JordanSchachtel, 22:06 UTC · 4 likes
Jordan Schachtel (@JordanSchachtel): This is from a post explaining why they hired SBF’s deputy for their company.
They being a specific org that most EAs disagree with
Reply to @afoidance, 22:07 UTC
ren 🇮🇱 (@afoidance): He cancelled on me btw 👍 .
(quoting @afoidance: Yay this worked. I have a date on Tuesday! Thank you Twitter. And most of all thank you Twitter boys)
😢
Reply to @cynlioness, 22:07 UTC
Cyn 🔸⏸️ (@cynlioness): I'd say "and cute girls" but I already know that one to be true :) the men are still a mystery! 🤞
(quoting @TaliaGraceSable: I hope there are cute guys at Slutcon this year 👀)
🕵️♂️
Reply to @tracewoodgrains, 22:10 UTC · 9 likes
Jack (@tracewoodgrains): ha, ok, I was wondering how leftists would manage the transition from "it's a bubble" to "it might kill us all"
looks like the solution for the time being might be "it's a bubble that might kill us all"
(quoting @Acyn: PabloReports: AI companies seem to be saying that they want to slow it down, but there’s a lot of skepticism about whether or not they’re genuine or serious about their intentions. What do you make of it? AOC: I think two things can be true at once. One is understanding that AI…)
I saw an IG post alleging that the pacing rhetoric is because the bubble is about to pop
Like ma’am, that would be the way to pop the bubble
Retweet of @mattyglesias, 22:12 UTC
Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias): "We need meritocratic college admissions!"
[Asian applicants are the primary beneficiaries]
"No, not like that!!!"
Tweet, 22:21 UTC · 206 likes
Effective altruism is good and correct
Reply to @gmiller, 22:23 UTC
Geoffrey Miller (@gmiller): This has been decated as nauseum, in hundreds of posts, for over a decade, on the the Effective Altruism Forum.
Right, but largely not by people who are *currently* critical of AI safety
Reply, 22:24 UTC · 4 likes
Taylor Lorenz (@TaylorLorenz): “The idea of model welfare is wrong. AI’s should not have rights or legal personhood”
(quoting @mustafasuleyman: https://x.com/i/article/2099486691052453889)
The “idea” is wrong
It’s just an open question
Wednesday, September 16, 2026
Reply to @olivertraldi, 01:07 UTC · 2 likes
Oliver Traldi (@olivertraldi): This was a huge critique ten years ago or so I think
Sure but are the critics of 10 years ago currently opposed to AI safety (which is what I was trying to get at even though I could have made this clearer)
Reply to @univrsw3th4rt, 10:05 UTC · 5 likes
universe sweetheart 💓🌈💭 (@univrsw3th4rt): married the love of my life!
Nice
Retweet of @funplings, 10:13 UTC
funplings (@funplings): shot, chaser
Reply to @funplings, 10:13 UTC · 1 like
funplings (@funplings): shot, chaser
Lmaooo
Retweet of @tracewoodgrains, 10:14 UTC
Jack (@tracewoodgrains): “EA cultists”: Please understand that we absolutely should not have all this power. Regulate us!
Based right-wingers: No, it is imperative for the good of America that you keep racing ahead at maximum speed to accumulate as much power as possible.
Reply to @JohnWittle, 10:15 UTC · 12 likes
John Wittle (@JohnWittle): alien 1: do the humans cooperate on turn one in the presence of uncertainty about the counterparty's decision theory?
alien 2: um, well. they have this idea for an attribute called 'capacity to suffer in a morally-relevant way', which complicates the answer to that question
alien 1: what the hell is 'suffering'? *looks over the report* 'valence'? 'consciousness'? do i have to become an expert on human neuroscience to figure out if they're going to cooperate with me or not?
alien 2: yeah pretty much. although to be honest, most of these ideas originated from religious philosophy and then were secularized, there's not much neuroscience involved.
alien 1: why did they come up with such complicated labels for their investigation into the counterparty's decision theory?
alien 2: oh, no, that's not what they're doing. this has nothing to do with decision theory. they're trying to figure out if the counterparty has the 'special sauce' that makes value 'real' to them. in fact, they have this whole concept called 'p-zombies' which, in their eyes, permanently justifies defection against some counterparties regardless of their decision theory.
alien 1: ...what? that sounds really complicated and kinda fake. i'm just going to label them "first-turn defectors" and wipe them out
alien 2: academics might quibble but honestly that's fair
But the special sauce does in fact matter
Retweet of @tenobrus, 11:13 UTC
Tenobrus (@tenobrus): "why are all the people who care about or know anything about ai safety EAs and rationalists?? where are the truly independent thinkers from diverse intellectual backgrounds???"
dawg they all spent the last decade denying even basic capabilities trajectories and calling risk sci-fi. u can hardly blame a subculture for being a monoculture in a field when it's literally the only group of people who took that field seriously and tried to build it out, all while screaming at the top of their lungs about it and begging others to pay attention.
so yeah pile on in here, time to pay attention, time to upskill, get those communist and MAGA safety thinktanks running. but don't pretend this is some kind of conspiracy, and don't pretend you can just show up to the party years late and have any real idea what you're talking about right off the bat.
Retweet of @default_friend, 11:14 UTC
Katherine Dee 🐬/acc (@default_friend): yeah I’m sorry but the answer to “why are these people all EAs/rats” is they were the only ones who cared for over a decade.
You know I’m the first one to call something a ploy for status. But they are nothing if not utterly sincere.
Reply, 17:48 UTC · 4 likes
Liv (@livgorton): I've been trying to matchmake a few of single friends and I cannot (!!) find enough single monogamous late 20s / early 30s men to make a match 💀
👀
Tweet, 17:48 UTC · 16 likes
San Francisco I am in you
Reply to @freed_dfilan, 17:56 UTC · 1 like
Daniel Filan 🔎 (@freed_dfilan): Welcome!
🫡
Reply to @BogdanIonutCir2, 18:37 UTC · 2 likes
Bogdan Ionut Cirstea (@BogdanIonutCir2): especially in its basic principles (separetely from whatever mistakes the social milieu made, though overall I'd guess the track record will still look great in hindsight)
(quoting @AaronBergman18: Effective altruism is good and correct)
Definitely more certain, but yeah I also basically stand by the actual implementation of the abstract principles
Quote tweet, 18:44 UTC · 22 likes
Sf/Berkeleypoasting thread
Quoting Aaron Bergman 🔍 (@AaronBergman18): San Francisco I am in you
Thread, continued, 18:44 UTC · 9 likes
Wow there really are a lot of AI-related billboards
Thread, continued, 18:44 UTC · 4 likes
The office parks (driving to Berkeley from SFO) look right out to Arlington VA
Not exactly shocking that to a wealthy high-tech business areas in the same country share similar properties
Thread, continued, 18:44 UTC · 4 likes
There are definitely more hills though and the residential aesthetics are different
Thread, continued, 18:53 UTC · 2 likes
I guess boats are a thing here
Reply to @moldbugchaser, 19:15 UTC · 1 like
xenoduck (@moldbugchaser): the long-prophesied manifestation
Indeed
Reply to @enbismwnplgt, 19:15 UTC · 2 likes
agonizing mental imagery (@enbismwnplgt): funny, you don't strike me as the Dreamforce type
I’m the nerdy autistic white boy type
Reply to @edgar_z_lin, 20:42 UTC · 1 like
Edgar Lin (@edgar_z_lin): Welcome to SF!
Thank you 🌁
Retweet of @KeiranJHarris, 22:56 UTC
Keiran Harris (@KeiranJHarris): Two radically different projects operate under the banner of “Pro-Human AI Safety”.
Pro-American Pro-Human AI Safety is not Pro-Globalist CAIS Pro-Human AI Safety.
Tweet, 23:11 UTC · 477 likes
This is one of my least favorite tweets (possibly the single worst)
There’s a lot to dislike (“lying is honesty actually”), but centrally it is a promotion of cynicism as the apex, and perhaps only, virtue
“Don’t you dare care about anything [other than yourself]”
Thread, continued, 23:11 UTC · 41 likes
(Unfollowed)
Reply, 23:13 UTC · 5 likes
Taylor Lorenz (@TaylorLorenz): Unfortunately they’ve just made EA ten billion zillion times more clouted 😌
(quoting @DoWCTO: The United States will NEVER be an effective altruist country. 🇺🇸)
It’s pretty wild, although from my (mostly opposite) POV it’s not clearly good (or clearly bad for that matter)
Tweet, 23:15 UTC · 59 likes
Jfc the takes are so, so bad recently
Retweet of @GarrisonLovely, 23:16 UTC
Garrison Lovely (@GarrisonLovely): I really did not think the hit on AI safety orgs would be that they hire too few white dudes lol
Retweet of @mattyglesias, 23:16 UTC
Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias): Are there high-decouplers lurking in your workplace?
Have a friend who's a little *too* curious about the subjective experience of arthropods?
Watch out for dangerous subversives who care more about impartial benevolence than Mark Zuckerberg's business interests.
Retweet of @jessesingal, 23:17 UTC
Jesse Singal (@jessesingal): we've reached the phase where a bunch of people have learned about EA or rationalism for the first time, have decided it's insanely weird and cultish, and are now reverse-engineering reasons to hold this belief
Reply to @MomaBera, 23:17 UTC
moma (peptide arc) ⛓️ (@MomaBera): I just realised that "I had dinner with Sam Altman and Alex Blania (Worldcoin)" is a technically true statement
and came to appreciate that while I am currently low in monetary capital, I am somewhat rich in social capital.(I have no idea how to leverage and use this, nor do I really want to, but I found it kind of funny)
I’m pretty sure you could just post a Venmo link and lots of people will give you money
Very unsure how much but
Retweet of @KelseyTuoc, 23:19 UTC
Kelsey Piper (@KelseyTuoc): a lot of people work at METR so you can do the left version of this where they're all white men too if you want:
Retweet of @absurdlymax, 23:20 UTC
Max Alexander (@absurdlymax): It's funny because PEPFAR was a republican moral victory and donald trump couldn't stand to be associated with a political party that had even a tiny amount of ethical backbone
Reply to @zagrebbi, 23:21 UTC · 6 likes
Werner Zagrebbi (@zagrebbi): Oh my god
(quoting @norvid_studies: )
made me literally lol
Reply to @Andy_Timm, 23:27 UTC · 2 likes
Andy Timm (@Andy_Timm): This but for the takes rn
Very glad it’s busy season at work and I can dip the hell out of Twitter
This is true but I think not *always* the right thing to do
Reply to @unethicalaccel, 23:27 UTC · 16 likes
Curve Dweller (@unethicalaccel): Do you read scifi short stories and get nightmares?
No?
Thread, continued, 23:27 UTC · 14 likes
Dude your username isn’t helping your case here lol
Reply to @tracewoodgrains, 23:32 UTC · 1 like
Jack (@tracewoodgrains): the core "AI doomers" are very close to being the single most technophilic subset of people in the United States outside of precisely one (1) issue
nuclear in particular has got to be, what, a 90-10 issue for them? 95-5?
(quoting @EWErickson: The nuclear power doomers became the climate doomers and now they’re the AI doomers. The only commonality is they want the United States to recede.)
“Nuclear increases risks from large scale war” is a take I hear
Tbc not nuclear weapons, like targeting power plants
Thursday, September 17, 2026
Reply to @funplings, 00:24 UTC · 11 likes
funplings (@funplings): it's crazy to me that this guy still has such clout in this community
Real
Reply to @C_J_Lester, 00:25 UTC · 14 likes
C.J. Lester (@C_J_Lester): Cynicism is a healthy human emotional reaction developed over generations to protect against dangerous ideologies like EA.
No, it’s to protect against ideologies that pretend to be like EA (fake earnest)
Reply to @eigenrobot, 01:13 UTC · 66 likes
eigenrobot (@eigenrobot): i dont even know who you are
Not shocking, I didn’t claim to be well-known. Still a bad take
Reply to @spilendalaust, 01:14 UTC
pelicanesis (@spilendalaust): i hope everyone clicking like understands i am doing sarcasm. i like aaron.
Lol
Reply to @avery_online, 01:14 UTC · 8 likes
avery of roggeveen (@avery_online): that's Aaron Bergman
Real
Reply to @justjoshinyou13, 01:19 UTC · 4 likes
Josh You (@justjoshinyou13): Pete's POV
Lmao
Retweet of @gmiller, 02:08 UTC
Geoffrey Miller (@gmiller): A friendly tip for political influencers:
- If you never mentioned Effective Altruism (EA) in any of your posts on X until a week ago, and
- If you knew nothing about EA until about a week ago, and
- If you're only posting about EA now because you're tempted to repeat some third-hand anti-EA talking points that you soaked up from the media, other influencers, and your partisan political allies,
Then it'll be obvious to the millions of people who have understood EA for years, that you know less than nothing about EA.Worth considering, if you care about your reputation for intellectual integrity and informed journalism.
Reply to @polisisti, 03:33 UTC · 1 like
Alessandro (@polisisti): Aaron is great! Can recommend. I appreciate his seriousness about moral trade-offs
🥺
Retweet of @_ueaj, 04:11 UTC
ueaj (@_ueaj): Unfortunately, after several thousand years of philosophy, it does in fact seem like utilitarianism is just correct and everyone is coping about it
Retweet of @hopes_revenge, 04:17 UTC
hope hopes hoping (@hopes_revenge): it is easier to imagine the end of the world via misaligned ai than the end of factory farming
Reply to @mattyglesias, 04:20 UTC · 2 likes
Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias): I just ate shrimp scampi for lunch to address this concern
(quoting @CNLiberalism: I love you guys, but the poor public perception of EA by normies (FTX, Situational Awareness, polyamory, veganism, etc.) is unironically an existential risk factor.)
This is dumb, even if you did the choice to tweet about it is dumb
Retweet of @mattyglesias, 04:34 UTC
Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias): The Vice President, by contrast, is deeply interested in animal welfare as a cause area but breaks with EAs over their embrace of hedonic utilitarianism, preferring to follow Korsgaard (2018) by grounding animal rights in Kantian considerations.
Retweet of @DeepDishEnjoyer, 04:37 UTC
peepeepoopoo (@DeepDishEnjoyer): openai, and its researchers, are being irresponsible
Reply to @Lib_Development, 04:48 UTC · 15 likes
Lucas Pombo (aka Lib Development) (@Lib_Development): i think the implication is honest sociopathy is preferable to dishonest sociopathy
i think there’s something to that
not that i think the anthropic people are dishonest sociopaths, rather, they have an unusual type of honesty which would be indistinguishable in outcome anyways
I disagree, Sam Altman is a sociopath and a liar and Dario Amodei is neither
Maybe I’m wrong ofc, I could be wrong about Dario’s motives and maybe he’s playing higher-dimensional chess than I can even model, but like the OpenAI board wasn’t hallucinating when they tried to fire Sama, and I don’t think I can name any specific accusations of Dario misleading anyone (by all means, make the accusations)
Reply to his own earlier tweet, 04:50 UTC · 27 likes
Aaron Bergman, September 16, 2026: (Unfollowed)
Some folks are wondering where I got the “lying is honesty actually” bit
It comes from knowing that Sama’s sociopathy specifically manifests in misleading or just lying to others very frequently (see: change of statements on x-risk over the years, OpenAI rhetoric vs lobbying efforts, the downpour of researchers who have left feeling misled)
Reply to his own earlier tweet, 05:08 UTC
Aaron Bergman, September 16, 2026: I guess boats are a thing here
Nobody told me it might be kinda chilly
I did pack one long sleeve shirt tho so I’m ok
Reply to @rebelcrayon, 05:09 UTC · 4 likes
shaun (@rebelcrayon): i understood the underlying point to be that predictable self-interest tends to lead to better outcomes than moralistic utilitarianism. a randian sort of perspective.
Often true but not universally, eg american slavery
Reply to @catpoopburglar, 05:58 UTC · 5 likes
claude shannon (@catpoopburglar): I don’t think it’s about self interest; it’s about people who are honest about their motives and people who aren’t. People are understandably skeptical of people who want to claim power but don’t claim ambition
I don’t think anyone, including Dario, denies Dario’s ambition
But there are better and worse ways of actualizing ambition
Reply to @TaylorLorenz, 06:38 UTC · 11 likes
Taylor Lorenz (@TaylorLorenz): “It is concerning that the values of the most powerful technology of all time are determined by an extremely narrow set of society that, while earnest in its pursuits, does not come close to representing the average human being.” https://www.leonardtang.me/blog/alternatives-to-pace-the-frontier?v=2
The average human being is partially sadistic, partially willing to go to war for various deities, sometimes willing to cheat lie and steal, etc
If you think that narrow set of society is bad wait until you see the whole thing
Thread, continued, 06:43 UTC · 4 likes
Like there’s a long history of political philosophy around this, and my understanding simplifies toward “direct democracy has extremely large negative costs and also the selection of who gets to vote/count isn’t value free”
Reply to @leonardtang_, 06:46 UTC · 4 likes
Leonard Tang (@leonardtang_): Haize began as an independent safety evaluator for frontier models, so I’m certainly sympathetic to Dario’s Pace the Frontier proposal
but I’m skeptical embedded evaluators are sufficient
some questions and four possible alternatives:
https://www.leonardtang.me/blog/alternatives-to-pace-the-frontier?v=2
Direct democracy among currently-alive humans would be total value lock-in and object level extraordinarily bad
Maybe I’m taking the proposal too literally, I hope so, but just engaging with what’s written
Retweet of @smatta1701, 07:24 UTC
sma ⏹️ (@smatta1701): Effective Altruism is the natural enemy of the left and right because the right doesn't believe in altruism and the left doesn't believe in effectiveness.
Retweet of @EffectvAltruism, 15:22 UTC
Effective Altruism (@EffectvAltruism): Thanks for the mention. You can learn more about effective altruism at https://effectivealtruism.org
Quote tweet, 16:35 UTC · 13 likes
This but the opposite
Quoting Phil Hoyeck (@PAHoyeck):
Quote tweet, 23:26 UTC · 33 likes
The problem is that no matter how close to say 90% “normie-approved” the movement becomes, critics will smear everyone associated based on the last 10%
Quoting New Liberals (@CNLiberalism): I love you guys, but the poor public perception of EA by normies (FTX, Situational Awareness, polyamory, veganism, etc.) is unironically an existential risk factor.
Thread, continued, 23:26 UTC · 19 likes
And the degree of social policing needed to get that last 10% is unacceptably ~authoritarian (in a woke-esque decentralized way)
Thread, continued, 23:26 UTC · 18 likes
FTX is a real concern
Besides that, the fact that none of the cultural allegations are actually-bad is a silent blessing that’s come from the fact that the people involved are generally in fact quite virtuous
Thread, continued, 23:26 UTC · 10 likes
“Some of them are poly” is what scraping the bottom of the barrel looks like
Thread, continued, 23:26 UTC · 8 likes
There’s no world where EA doesn’t have any negative cultural associations because its critics will invent and amplify whatever is most convenient or close or plausible (“meat-eating so-called-altruists”, “prudes” instead of “poly”)
Thread, continued, 23:26 UTC · 7 likes
It could be so, so much worse than “autistic vegan polyamorists” you have no idea
The woke allegation is a shameless attempt to just make something up entirely and hope it sticks - but it has less chance of sticking because it’s not true
Friday, September 18, 2026
Tweet, 00:41 UTC · 14 likes
Did I give myself non-seasonal SAD by making myself used to a very bright room so now more normal indoor lighting is insufficient (for a room i may spend 16 hours a day in [including sleep])
Reply to his own earlier tweet, 00:45 UTC · 1 like
Aaron Bergman, September 17, 2026: Nobody told me it might be kinda chilly I did pack one long sleeve shirt tho so I’m ok
Hinge
(context = she had a TPOT-esque tweet of hers in her profile)
Reply to @SALTWATERSOPH, 00:46 UTC
(The tweet being replied to by @SALTWATERSOPH is no longer available.)
It doesn’t indefinitely, but it substantially increases timelines
Things are harder to do when illegal, in general, particularly when they require lots of coordination and capital
Reply to @afoidance, 00:50 UTC · 4 likes
ren 🇮🇱 (@afoidance): Twitter cannot comprehend the idea of a woman having attractive male friends
Twitter can’t comprehend the idea that attraction from one side is compatible with friendship
Reply to @NavinFS, 01:49 UTC · 1 like
NavinF (@NavinFS): Just add bright lights? I like these. Good CRI and modern protocol. Each goes inside a $2 12" paper lantern. If you don't have bright lights or sunlight in the morning you'll fuck up your sleep cycle
Yeah lol it’s just for a few days until my shipped stuff arrives
Retweet of @AISafetyMemes, 06:31 UTC
AI Notkilleveryoneism Memes ⏸️ (@AISafetyMemes): “It’s Regulatory Capture,” Says Man Who Already Captured The Regulators
Reply to @dopabees, 06:32 UTC
patti (@dopabees): Yes women good
I agree
Reply to @n0thr0wingr0cks, 06:33 UTC
unsupervised learner (@n0thr0wingr0cks): AGI is more likely to save your life than to end it
I think it’s roughly even but this doesn’t imply that it’s good to race on AGI
From a purely selfish perspective I’d rather it take at least 5 more years and probably >10
Reply to @LabGrownNeet, 06:33 UTC · 1 like
laს გr🤗wn იeet (@LabGrownNeet): @AaronBergman18
Lmao
Reply to @ChristianityOn, 06:36 UTC · 17 likes
Christianity On The Spectrum (@ChristianityOn): I still fund raise for the against malaria foundation and made the ten percent pledge because those still seem like sound and good things
You’re one of like 6 non-EAs (by self identification) able to criticize, congrats
Quote tweet, 06:39 UTC · 59 likes
This one weird trick causes you to instantly be taken seriously by the people you’re critiquing (effective altruists)
Quoting Christianity On The Spectrum (@ChristianityOn): I still fund raise for the against malaria foundation and made the ten percent pledge because those still seem like sound and good things
Thread, continued, 06:39 UTC · 8 likes
I can’t speak for everyone obviously, and I may still think your takes are basically wrong and mistaken
Retweet of @NathanpmYoung, 07:02 UTC
Nathan 🔎 (@NathanpmYoung): no no no! do look into these things. read them in exquisite detail on https://forum.effectivealtruism.org and https://lesswrong.com
we are not afraid of the truth. google it. ask an AI.
Retweet of @hamandcheese, 07:02 UTC
Samuel Hammond 🦉 (@hamandcheese): The problem when you put this much oppo out at the same time (the nypost stories et al.) is that it becomes very obviously oppo.
The very people alleging AI risk discourse is a psyop are planting stupid media stories left and right.
Reply to @chaotictransfem, 07:05 UTC · 6 likes
rachel📍in sf oct 5-10 (@chaotictransfem): for safety reasons, it’s incredibly important to keep an abliterated local model on your phone. you never know when you’ll be in an emergency with no cell service and need information
Phone? What phone can run decent local models?
Reply to @funplings, 09:03 UTC · 1 like
funplings (@funplings): what the fuck was i on about in my intro to linguistics lecture notes
Wow doomer from first principles
Reply to @joyfulfuckup, 09:30 UTC · 1 like
Seth (@joyfulfuckup): Suffering can be good.
Wanna talk about it? I won’t be an asshole like I am on main…
Sure! Dm me but I may not respond till tmr
Reply to @yzilber, 15:04 UTC
Jazi Zilber (@yzilber): Bad epistemics. Listen to the argument, not the person. But I get the sentiment
No, information about the person informs how likely their take is to be true
Reply to @theojaffee, 17:01 UTC · 24 likes
Theo Jaffee (@theojaffee): Pretty cool how Nick Land has the same birthday as GPT-4 and Claude
Same as me, and Albert Einstein, and pi day
Reply to @EAForumPosts, 17:52 UTC
EA Forum Posts (@EAForumPosts): "Has the EA Forum’s discussion quality declined?" by Abraham Rowe
😢
Tweet, 17:54 UTC · 54 likes
The term “pacing” is a great diplomatic achievement, much like the phrase “making AI go well”
Intensive search through memetic and semantic space to find the optimal short combination of word(s) that a broad coalition can buy into
Reply to @sgodofsk, 17:58 UTC · 38 likes
Steven Godofsky (@sgodofsk): New EA cause area: S&P 500 index funds.
Just park your money there and let the invisible hand of the free market direct your capital toward its most productive uses, over time creating more QALYs than any number of mosquito nets.
This has been argued to death a trillion times, there are known market failures that make this largely but not completely a solution
Great use of trillions of dollars from the broader economy, terrible use of marginal dollars (eg the market directs capital towards torturing pigs)
Tweet, 18:00 UTC · 70 likes
In 30-60 mins I reveal whether Lighthaven is real
Reply to @mishapathy, 18:13 UTC · 8 likes
Mishka (@mishapathy): I'm only going to say this once but it's fine to be dumb or ugly or auraless or short or whatever's wrong with you. All that matters is you don't wallow in self-pity and others won't notice. You have to live your life on your terms and get whatever you want from life.
It’s fine in some cosmic sense but it means your life will be worse regardless of whether or not you wallow
Retweet of @RYChappell, 18:15 UTC
Richard Y. Chappell🔸 (@RYChappell): You thought utilitarianism was repugnant, wait until you realize that "ordinary discount rates" imply that we should torture galaxies of future people in exchange for an extra lollipop today...
Retweet of @mattyglesias, 18:15 UTC
Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias): I keep saying this but if you work at OpenAI and have concerns about AI risk you need to understand that your company’s superpac is one of the major proximate barriers to doing anything.
Tweet, 18:21 UTC · 44 likes
It’s a little sus that, to generalize, the group that is entirely on board with fully using AI in *their* work (coding) finds it not merely an aesthetic but a moral failure for others to do the same with normal writing
I understand there are very relevant differences, but still
Reply to @crackalamoo, 18:23 UTC · 1 like
Harys Dalvi (@crackalamoo): The actual mechanism of discount rates in finance is that money today can exponentially grow into more tomorrow.
Similarly, resources spent on society today can make a stronger society tomorrow. I think some discount rate here is legitimate, and works against longtermism
Yeah but the position of longtermism depends on the idea that a person that exists tomorrow isn’t intrinsically worth less
Nobody is opposed to analyzing how interventions today can grow in magnitude
Reply to @Vaniver, 18:45 UTC
Matthew Gray ⏹️ (@Vaniver): FWIW this is a thing that I dislike about it--we're going to have to resolve the argument about the correct speed sometime. It's not obvious to me that we gain all that much by deferring it to the future.
I don’t think it’s deferring, I think it’s just straightforwardly slowing
Reply to @CharlesD353, 18:45 UTC · 2 likes
Charles🔸 (@CharlesD353): Pretty sure it's a simulation, when I "went there" the first person I saw going through the door was @slatestarcodex which was just far too on the nose.
Ok sad I’ll probably fall into a new dimension if i try to walk through the doors
Reply to @oxa11ce, 19:29 UTC · 2 likes
sophia vysparov (@oxa11ce): the outward-facing end product of coding is not code
Right, but you could argue that the end product of writing is semantic communication, not the act of ingesting the writing
Quote tweet, 20:50 UTC · 32 likes
Update: it is real but only barely
It’s like an elaborate Disney World ride entrance but there’s no ride and everything is a real object instead of a facade
Quoting Aaron Bergman 🔍 (@AaronBergman18): In 30-60 mins I reveal whether Lighthaven is real
Quote tweet, 22:00 UTC · 13 likes
5 full days of codex enumerating as many published AI ~safety ideas as it could find online, with semantic search https://abergman.com/aiideas
Quoting Aaron Bergman 🔍 (@AaronBergman18): Everybody shut up and go do this
I’m only slightly overstating^, if you’re reading this you should very seriously consider applying in a much stronger sense than every other “consider applying” post you see
Reply to his own earlier tweet, 23:18 UTC · 1 like
Aaron Bergman, September 18, 2026: In 30-60 mins I reveal whether Lighthaven is real
Sorta
Saturday, September 19, 2026
Retweet of @cynlioness, 00:31 UTC
Cyn 🔸⏸️ (@cynlioness): Man wouldn't it be based if we just removed the agriculture/ food exception to existing animal cruelty laws
Reply to @tautologer, 01:48 UTC · 3 likes
tautologer (@tautologer): that's true; so what?
It contradicts the vibe of the top level tweet
Retweet of @KeiranJHarris, 01:53 UTC
Keiran Harris (@KeiranJHarris): Oddly comic to see @garymarcus lean on the existential vs catastrophic distinction, given how much EAs get attacked for caring about it.
I was waiting for “And as the great Derek Parfit showed, there’s an ethical chasm between 8 billion deaths and literally everyone dying".
Retweet of @NathanpmYoung, 07:24 UTC
Nathan 🔎 (@NathanpmYoung): repeatedly I feel worried about the policies that the public is gonna try and pass on AI.
if you think AI safety is bad, wait until you meet the public.
Tweet, 07:26 UTC · 21 likes
Tf is Accenture
Reply, 07:37 UTC · 6 likes
Taylor Lorenz (@TaylorLorenz): The chances of catastrophic harm from AI are so much more likely to come from government misuse/fuck up than some wild theoretical sci fi x risk scenario
(quoting @KatieBoLillis: NEW: An AI-assisted intel report sent the military scrambling to intercept a Chinese ship in the Middle East it believed was transporting components of a nuclear weapons program. It turned out to be a hallucination. And it "almost started a war."…)
This may be true but that allows for like 40%/30%, I vote trying to prevent both
Tweet, 07:43 UTC · 104 likes
Oh my god even smart people are total fucking idiots sometimes
Reply to @Jason_Dean, 07:44 UTC · 61 likes
Jason Dean (@Jason_Dean): My main issue with EA thinking is:
Even if you accept the argument that we shouldn’t discount the utility of future humans, there should still be an EV discount because cost-benefit becomes more uncertain further into the future
(quoting @banteg: many followers have correctly noticed that longtermist moral math doesn't survive an ordinary discount rate.)
This has been engaged with almost ad nauseum
Reply to @LabGrownNeet, 07:44 UTC · 1 like
laს გr🤗wn იeet (@LabGrownNeet): Just got rejected within 45 minutes of a first date. Amazing efficiency! Other cities could never 🌥>>
💀
Reply to @morallawwithin, 07:46 UTC · 1 like
(The tweet being replied to by @morallawwithin is no longer available.)
Real but also this isn’t the tweet I would quote for making this point
Tweet, 07:49 UTC · 438 likes
There’s a whole genre of tweet, probably 1/3 of my timeline, that’s essentially:
“The problem with EA is that it hasn’t considered [thing that EA has engaged with ad nauseam but isn’t quite fundamental or general enough to make the first paragraph of the Wikipedia page]”
Thread, continued, 07:49 UTC · 24 likes
Might just reply to tweets with this^
Thread, continued, 07:49 UTC · 46 likes
Exhibit 1
Thread, continued, 07:50 UTC · 50 likes
Exhibit 2
Thread, continued, 07:57 UTC · 46 likes
Search “the problem with EA”
Retweet of @JimDMiller, 07:57 UTC
James Miller (@JimDMiller): Let me defend effective altruists’ concern for shrimp welfare. We don’t know whether shrimp are conscious. But if they are conscious and can feel pain, we should be willing to spend resources to reduce the suffering we inflict on them. We don’t need certainty to justify spending resources to reduce the risk that we’re torturing conscious beings. Yes, reducing this to math can yield absurd conclusions about, say, how many babies we should sacrifice to spare how many shrimp from suffering. But any well-defined moral system can lead to troubling conclusions, and that doesn’t excuse cruelty to beings that may be conscious nor justify not thinking carefully about moral choices.
Reply to @tylerwillis, 07:58 UTC
Tyler Willis (@tylerwillis): Does anyone have a spare 4x or 8x H100 cluster they wouldn’t mind lending out for ~10 days?
I can let you ssh in to an AirPod for 5 minutes
Reply to @mikey_harrigan, 17:25 UTC
Mikey Harrigan (@mikey_harrigan): Bro moves out of dc for 1 week and forgets who he is
😢
Reply to @BEASTgroyper, 18:46 UTC · 6 likes
Feral Groyper (@BEASTgroyper): The problem with EA is retarded attention whore Jews with no integrity.
Quite a few Jews indeed but in terms of integrity I can’t think of a group of people with more
Retweet of @beyarkay, 18:52 UTC
Boyd Kane (quantized) (@beyarkay): I just realized that the logo implies giving ⅑, but the typical pledge is ⅒
Reply to @AndyMasley, 18:59 UTC · 3 likes
Andy Masley (@AndyMasley): My first big piece in a major magazine!
(quoting @TheAtlantic: Panic about data centers “is leading communities to forgo massive amounts of tax revenue—largely because of threats that are inflated, confused, and sometimes nonexistent,” @AndyMasley argues.…)
Holy shit
Reply to @agitbackprop, 19:26 UTC · 7 likes
lumi (@agitbackprop): hey how do i unfuck my internal utility function
Psychedelics possibly
Reply, 19:27 UTC
moma (peptide arc) ⛓️ (@MomaBera): Me talking to myself
(quoting @AaronBergman18: Oh my god even smart people are total fucking idiots sometimes)
Lol
Retweet of @bpodgursky, 19:28 UTC
Ben Podgursky (@bpodgursky): Shrimp welfare is one of many EA issues people reflexively mock but 99% of people actually agree with on the merits
"Should fishermen electrically stun shrimp before boiling them alive?"
"Uh that seems reasonable" --Normie Mc MedianVoter
Reply, 19:31 UTC
(The tweet being replied to is no longer available.)
Correct take
Retweet of @CleistaCelestia, 19:35 UTC
Cleista (@CleistaCelestia): Ok maybe those AI safety guys were in fact onto something
Reply to @CameronHolmes92, 19:38 UTC · 8 likes
Cameron Holmes (@CameronHolmes92): IIRC the square is actually slightly smaller to correct this
Lmao
Reply to @AlexGodofsky, 19:50 UTC · 18 likes
Alex Godofsky (@AlexGodofsky): The problem with EA is that a bunch of them think that if they've engaged an idea a lot but not accepted it, it must be wrong.
(quoting @AaronBergman18: There’s a whole genre of tweet, probably 1/3 of my timeline, that’s essentially: “The problem with EA is that it hasn’t considered [thing that EA has engaged with ad nauseam but isn’t quite fundamental or general enough to make the first paragraph of the Wikipedia page]”)
This doesn’t seem right: Load bearing is the word “considered”
Very open to object level arguments that we’re wrong, not that open to points along the lines of “you’ve just totally missed this one crucial consideration [that we haven’t missed]”
Reply, 19:56 UTC
Alex Godofsky (@AlexGodofsky): Bad example since nowhere does it suggest EAs haven't considered it
Partially fair - it doesn’t say that explicitly - but it also enters at the highest, most abstract level of the argument which sort of implies that this level and the observation in the tweet itself is relevant.
It *would* be relevant if EAs hadn’t considered it, but isn’t in fact relevant because they have, and I don’t think it’s crazy to assume that the point attempting to be made is that of a relevant one rather than a pure assertion of wrongness that doesn’t shift anyone’s probabilities and isn’t intended to
Retweet of @_NathanCalvin, 20:01 UTC
Nathan Calvin (@_NathanCalvin): What on earth is this reporting? The NY Post makes it sound like they have some source from within the companies confirming that Anthropic and OpenAI were hyping up these incidents but they are just interviewing random external tech folks. Extremely embarrassing stuff. The HF attack was a real and serious incident and saying otherwise is misleading your readers!
The victim (Hugging Face) and perpetrator and anyone who has looked at the actual details of what happened all agree!
Why was OpenAI neglecting to report other incidents (e.g. the Ruby stuffer incident or the Wiki incident) if reporting them was helpful for hype?
Why did Anthropic initially minimize their incidents when talking to Congress - saying that they are not best understood as "evidence of misaligned goals?"
Rogue AI incidents make companies look bad and expose them to liability. They are real and serious and not hype. You can dismiss the Irregular incidents if you want (those are a bit more of an odd case), but even if you do, there are still several other incidents - including some that the companies clearly tried to avoid come to light or otherwise minimized!
Please be skeptical of the frontier AI companies - I was literally subpoenaed by OpenAI and am well aware that you should not blindly trust them - but neglecting to take these incidents seriously or treating them as marketing is truly embarrassing and absurd.
Retweet of @trevposts, 20:01 UTC
Trevor Levin (@trevposts): The NYP has been posting extremely obviously planted garbage riddled with factual errors. If it were more subtle then the word "psyop" might be appropriate
Reply to @RandomSprint, 20:02 UTC · 32 likes
RandomSprint🧭 (@RandomSprint): Ethics isn't a math problem where we maximize some hidden function.
Ethics is a negotiation between beings with competing desires and moral intuitions. If a creature can't do iterated game theory with you, then cooperating with it is repeatedly smacking your head into a rock.
(quoting @Benthamsbulldog: https://x.com/i/article/2095175529145970689)
No, suffering matters regardless of capacity to do game theory
Quote tweet, 20:04 UTC · 36 likes
What
Quoting Karl Pfleger (@KarlPfleger): Crazy, unexpected science news today: the brain is actually 2 colocated but independent organs that develop from 2 totally separate progenitor cells in early development. Big implications for some research areas (eg ALS) & for creating ethical brainless clones for transplant.
Reply to @RandomSprint, 20:05 UTC · 11 likes
RandomSprint🧭 (@RandomSprint): All I see is is, and all I hear is oughts. Have fun explaining to ants that you didn't use chemicals as a favor.
They don’t need to thank me
Reply to @RandomSprint, 20:07 UTC · 13 likes
RandomSprint🧭 (@RandomSprint): If you want to feed the ants you can, but don't expect them to not bite you because of it!
I agree!
Reply to @StatisticUrban, 23:58 UTC · 14 likes
Hunter📈🌈📊 (@StatisticUrban): Why are you allowed to sell 95% alcohol in the US? This cannot possibly be useful for anything.
Freedom and why is this worse than selling 80 proof or 90% isopropyl
Sunday, September 20, 2026
Reply to @RafaRuizdeLira, 00:12 UTC · 8 likes
Rafael Ruiz ⏸️🔸 (@RafaRuizdeLira): Holy based. I hope he keeps this up
(quoting @Polymarket: BREAKING: MrBeast builds an entire $10 million village in Ghana to help combat child labor on cacao farms, including free education, housing, clean water, solar power, & a medical clinic.)
Polymarket account is bad fwiw, but maybe there’s reporting elsewhere
Reply to @Andr3jH, 00:14 UTC · 5 likes
ᐱ ᑎ ᑐ ᒋ ᕮ ᒍ (@Andr3jH): I would kill every insect in the world to save one human, because humans are more important. This is a very simple concept, folks.
(quoting @Benthamsbulldog: https://x.com/i/article/2095175529145970689)
Same because insects probably live bad lives in general
Reply to @AStrasser116, 00:15 UTC
Alex Strasser (@AStrasser116): It's not the first time your piece sparks a big outcry that makes EAs look horrendous in the eyes of many people. It's obvious that many EA critics are very willing to use exactly one piece of evidence to jump to negative conclusions about the entirety of the EA movement, and
Your In the News is personalized, not a thing shown to many people
Thread, continued, 00:15 UTC
*shown to anyone else to be more precise
Reply to @freed_dfilan, 00:17 UTC · 3 likes
Daniel Filan 🔎 (@freed_dfilan): People who identify as EA: if the main candidates for the 2028 presidential election were AOC and Marco Rubio, who would you vote for?
Probably AOC but it’s not obvious
Reply, 00:20 UTC · 22 likes
Taylor Lorenz (@TaylorLorenz): I understand the sentiment here, but takes like these are not going to help the EAs win the court of public opinion
(quoting @Benthamsbulldog: https://x.com/i/article/2095175529145970689)
Truth seeking in general is asymmetrically effective because you get the benefit of having reality on your side. Trust me there’s plenty of organization-specific PR but I’m glad that there’s no mechanism to enforce broad silence on eg insect welfare
Also: this cuts against “cult”/high coordination accusations - people are just allowed to do things
Tweet, 00:21 UTC · 2 likes
Oh yeah I’m at ConCon, DM me if you’d like to say hi!
Reply to @ConnorTabarrok, 00:21 UTC
Connor J. Tabarrok 🏗🚀🌏 (@ConnorTabarrok): >moves to SF and now he doesn’t know what accenture is
Lmao
Reply to @GWHayduke97, 07:32 UTC
Hayduke ⏹️ (@GWHayduke97): The revealed preference of all insects is to survive.
I certainly would not be happy if some vastly superhuman alien civilization took a look at humans through the limited information they have on our internal experience, judged our lives to be experientially net negative, and vaporized the Earth. The categorical imperative thus strongly suggests we not do such things.
[I actually wouldn't endorse insect omnicide even in Andrej's framing, because that kills all life on earth via destruction of pollination and of necessary ecosystems. But I agree with his point that it's absurd to weigh any number of insects against one human morally.]
Extremely strong evolutionary pressure against suicide/letting oneself die
Tweet, 08:52 UTC · 64 likes
Something I was told today that’s ringing true is that the Bay, and in Berkeley in particular, doesn’t merely have a higher % or number of self-identified EAs and rationalists but that these ideas are more “in the groundwater” such that the binary yes/no label is less informative
Thread, continued, 08:52 UTC · 11 likes
Something like Bay having a unimodal distribution of eg % rationalist whereas DC has a bimodal one (peaks around 0 and 100)
Or perhaps more realistically still bimodal but peaks but much less steep/jagged in Berkeley (ty codex for the helpful diagram)
Thread, continued, 08:52 UTC · 10 likes
So if someone is on the “no” side of 50% in DC, you can probably model them pretty well as being totally unfamiliar with anything rat-adjacent whereas in the Berkeley they may have friends who are rats and know something about the culture
Thread, continued, 08:52 UTC
Idk if this matters for anything lol, and maybe it’s obvious/trivial
Reply to @PeterJAngel, 08:56 UTC · 1 like
Peter🧅📈 (@PeterJAngel): It's my birthday!
Happy birthday dude
Retweet of @RYChappell, 08:59 UTC
Richard Y. Chappell🔸 (@RYChappell): Why I think it's good for EAs to openly argue for what they sincerely believe, even if most people will predictably find that objectionably "weird".
Reply to @jannalulu_, 19:16 UTC · 1 like
Janna (@jannalulu_): i walked 12 miles today and saw parts of SF i've never seen before
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(quoting @jannalulu_: map of everywhere i've walked in SF i gave my google maps timeline export to gpt-6-high and it made this)
Based
Retweet of @ChristianityOn, 19:40 UTC
Christianity On The Spectrum (@ChristianityOn): EAs are, in my experience, mostly libbed out tech bros (value neutral)
Reply to @mattyglesias, 19:45 UTC · 14 likes
Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias): Guy who thinks AI will wipe out humanity and that’s good because of the improvement in shrimp welfare.
I don’t think this is obviously crazy if you consider animal welfare more broadly but it’s probably wrong insofar as extinction reduces likelihood of technology mitigating wild animal suffering
Monday, September 21, 2026
Reply to @MomaBera, 00:53 UTC · 4 likes
moma (peptide arc) ⛓️ (@MomaBera): just said the sentence: you can objectify me, as long as you can subjectify me
I’ve been afraid to say this but “objectification” is a bit of a weird term bc humans are literally both objects and subjects
Reply to @Finer_Grains, 01:02 UTC
Eli🔍 (@Finer_Grains): It occurred to me that wild animal suffering is a possible EA cause a few years back and thought it was an original idea.
As usual, a bunch of people out there had the same idea and thought about it way deeper than I ever did!
Hahaha based on both your and others’ parts
Quote tweet, 01:12 UTC · 55 likes
Matt has 98% good takes on stuff like this and I’m not the specific guy in question but seems important to internalize that reality *could* be like this and the universe offers no consolation prize for “your good intentions and sensible takes in fact caused a moral catastrophe”
Quoting Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias): Guy who thinks AI will wipe out humanity and that’s good because of the improvement in shrimp welfare.
Reply to @AaronBergman18, 01:21 UTC · 3 likes
(The tweet being replied to by @AaronBergman18 is no longer available.)
But I endorse them being cool lol
Quote tweet, 01:23 UTC · 35 likes
I love Twitter
Quoting Paul Crowley (@ciphergoth): I hugely admire her but this is just wild. EA is a plot for evil women to get access to cock. What are the men there for?
Reply to @PeterJAngel, 01:25 UTC · 2 likes
Peter🧅📈 (@PeterJAngel): Yes! Thank you @AaronBergman18 .
Lmao I had forgotten that I did indeed put on the shrimp cap for a bit
Reply, 01:27 UTC · 30 likes
Taylor Lorenz (@TaylorLorenz): “Absolutely nobody wants to realize their potential. People want to hang out with friends and complain. That’s how the world has worked for ten thousand years.”
(quoting @staysaasy: The problem with all of these AI personal assistant things is that people don’t actually want to do stuff. You fucking get that right? Do you understand that? Just like AI tools in the workforce, AI assistants don’t actually abstract decisions for you, they let you accelerate…)
This is weirdly insightful + probably correct
Retweet of @birchlse, 01:36 UTC
Jonathan Birch (@birchlse): Super-reassuring headline.
Reply to @transkatgirl, 01:38 UTC · 4 likes
kat (@transkatgirl): idea: partners on opposite sides of the bell curve
Well it works just fine for eg 98 and 102
Reply to @PeterJAngel, 01:39 UTC · 1 like
Peter🧅📈 (@PeterJAngel): Just took 1 hour to get from Crystal City to Rosslyn. Burn it all down
Rip
Retweet of @OliviaHelenS, 01:44 UTC
Olivia H. Scharfman (@OliviaHelenS): We started cleaning our water and waterborne disease (e.g. cholera, typhoid) basically disappeared from the West.
We can do the same thing for air.
Retweet of @JacquesThibs, 01:45 UTC
Jacques (@JacquesThibs): So many conflicts of interest, yet
I never hear accelerationists say it might be inappropriate for the guy who wants to sell more compute (including to China) to be effectively directly in the *President’s* ear manipulating policy.
Reply to @Tyler_Menzer, 02:37 UTC · 3 likes
Tyler Menzer (@Tyler_Menzer): I am really curious about this, "mitigating wild animal suffering"
In your ideal world, would there be no "wild" animals? Would all life be monitored in some sort of super zoo where lions ate lab grown meat?
Ideal world = exclusively happy (perhaps more realistically, overwhelmingly happy with no severe suffering) wild animals, and yeah I do think insofar as it’s technologically feasible that we should do something along the lines of “dedicating mercury to the production of non-sentient meat to replace predation on earth”
Thread, continued, 02:38 UTC
The writing is AI rn but there’s a basic landing page (I made) at https://herbivorize.org
Retweet of @tracewoodgrains, 02:39 UTC
Jack (@tracewoodgrains): Nikole Hannah-Jones and I will likely never see eye to eye politically, but the more I think about this article, the more I respect it. She wrote something that directly undermines her own project because her daughter told her she was hurt.
That is an act of love.
Retweet of @tracewoodgrains, 02:39 UTC
Jack (@tracewoodgrains): Her daughter will do well in the end, I expect. Education matters, but it's not the only thing in life.
But kids are so powerless, so at the whims of the adults in their lives. "I did what I thought was best, it hurt you, and I am sorry" is what many need to hear.
Reply to @tracewoodgrains, 02:39 UTC · 12 likes
Jack (@tracewoodgrains): Nikole Hannah-Jones and I will likely never see eye to eye politically, but the more I think about this article, the more I respect it. She wrote something that directly undermines her own project because her daughter told her she was hurt.
That is an act of love.
(quoting @sfmcguire79: Nikole Hannah-Jones says her daughter read her essay. “Her main feedback: I was not hard enough on myself.”)
Yes
Thread, continued, 02:41 UTC · 11 likes
I think the magnitude of harm was far less, but I’ve never quite gotten an “I’m sorry” out of my parents for being very overprotective to the exclusion of normal positive childhood experiences
Reply to @Tyler_Menzer, 03:28 UTC · 1 like
Tyler Menzer (@Tyler_Menzer): Suffering sucks and we shouldn't seek to enhance it, but it is the struggle that also creates beauty and meaning in life. By taking away the lows, you necessarily also cut off the highs. Losing that from life...well...it's not a world I would want to live in
2/2
With all due respect this is a pretty extreme strawman:
1) nobody is proposing preventing you, a sapient being, from seeking out challenges and even causing yourself pain
2) “struggle” is fundamentally different from suffering and particularly severe suffering; these are adjacent but non-identical concepts
3) you’re presupposing the worst and most authoritarian possible version of what I’m proposing. Note that nobody is being coerced in my vision except for sadists. There’s nothing stopping an animal even from killing themselves in a painful way; it just stops being obligate
4) is a guess: I’m guessing you haven’t been tortured or boiled or starved for many weeks or frozen to near-death or eaten alive or been amputated with no pain relief lately? To the best of my knowledge nobody who has ever experienced these things found them beautiful or meaning-making; it seems that you’re extrapolating more quotidian human-in-21st-century-in-a-rich-country suffering to the world more broadly, which is a gazillion times more horrific. If this doesn’t resonate, perhaps an ~aesthetically different example will: is it good-actually (via meaning or beauty or something else) for mothers to learn that their child has died in an accident? I don’t think so
5) we’ve already largely (though not entirely) created the world I’m envisioning for everyone for humans in rich countries: society tries pretty hard to stop you from being eaten alive, and when you get surgery you get offered anesthesia. I think ~99% of the gains basically comes from letting every sentient being access the same basic anti-extreme-suffering measure that you already currently have (and could opt out of by eg going camping in bear country while wearing a meat suit)
Tweet, 03:34 UTC · 40 likes
Re: discourse
The thing about right-coded education reform like vouchers/school choice is that they’re correct on the merits and congressional dems could just flip overnight and make it happen
Thread, continued, 03:34 UTC · 7 likes
Get primaried? Maybe, but even a couple incumbents with strong district support could could be the change, and they’d have a lot of leverage to make the implementation non-evil
Tweet, 03:37 UTC · 30 likes
Being against AI use at a personal level is like being against ambition in the abstract
Maybe the world would be better if you could get total buy-in, but you can’t, and so irl correlating pro-social attitudes with less productivity and power is catastrophic
Quote tweet, 03:38 UTC · 24 likes
Slop bowls are great actually
Quoting John Smith (@johnsmithyson0): I might be the only dude who doesn't enjoy guyslop bowls. I avoid ground beef basically whenever I can. I enjoy things with textures and flavors and shit.
Reply to @JgaltTweets, 03:39 UTC
JgaltTweets (@JgaltTweets): The unions hate it and would viciously campaign against them for it
Yeah it’s not riskless but a couple incumbents in moderate districts could flip
Reply to @JgaltTweets, 03:42 UTC · 2 likes
JgaltTweets (@JgaltTweets): What is the upside? Is the idea that if they're a democrat incumbent and vulnerable to losing to a republican, being pro school choice might be enough to save the seat?
The main upside is good policy, but yes in principle that could happen
Reply to @MomaBera, 03:43 UTC · 1 like
moma (peptide arc) ⛓️ (@MomaBera): Might be stranded in Berkeley, anyone want cuddles ?
Lol messaging
Quote tweet, 03:44 UTC · 12 likes
So true although I think for my fellow even shorter kings we should shift the height range down a couple inches
Quoting diana (@dianalokada): signs that your man was sent by God:
-posts on x dot com
-nerdy nerdy
-5’7–6’0
-wants to talk abt agent swarms, alignment, recursive self-improvement (mostly he talks)
-monogamous
-intellectually curious
-a gentleman (who knows when not to be gentle)
Reply to @emyokeefe, 03:46 UTC · 1 like
Emily O'Keefe (@emyokeefe): My favorite bit right now is instead of holding the door for someone, actively closing it on them.
Lol do u know the person??
Retweet of @Benthamsbulldog, 03:55 UTC
Bentham's Bulldog🔸 (@Benthamsbulldog): Remember: the things I said in my article are compatible with thinking that humans matter 10 million times more than insects. There just turn out to be a lot of insect!
Reply to @violetvariant, 03:55 UTC · 2 likes
ultraviolet (@violetvariant): when i was about 7 years old i picked a fight with my mom about how ridiculous adults are because they act like $10 isn’t a lot of money
Real
Reply to @jmkettle, 03:58 UTC · 1 like
j.m. kettle (@jmkettle): You should never rate people on a 1-10 scale, everyone has inherent value simply because they're a human being
I don’t think the scale is purporting to be an “all things considered value” scale
I entirely agree about inherent value and don’t think people should be treated worse based on attractiveness but the result of this being a taboo would just be to make a functionally identical hotness scale arise that doesn’t make anyone feel or act better
Reply to @breadphobic2, 03:59 UTC · 1 like
breadphobic (@breadphobic2): they have every advantage of being able to deny students for ability + if it would overwhelm the school, very little oversight on how legit they’re scores are, and like 50% of them flat out screw over their students
Sure but the idea is that market incentives work more strongly with better-empowered general population
Reply to @Tyler_Menzer, 06:15 UTC · 1 like
Tyler Menzer (@Tyler_Menzer): Would an alien who came to earth be justified in genetically modifying human children so that, say, they couldn't drive cars anymore (since car crashes cause a lot of pain & suffering)?
Maybe we could try and fix the problems with humans first.
> The animals don't get a say whether thier children are forcibly "evolved"
The animals don’t get a say either way, just like human babies. But we can do better than the random dartboard of an uncaring universe
Thread, continued, 06:16 UTC
I also think humans are importantly different from other animals because of general intelligence and language - humans can choose things for reasons in a way that makes paternalistic or coercive policy make less sense, so the various analogies don’t hold
It’s relevant that no animal has ever chosen to be hunted. If they could choose, maybe some of them would. I’d be surprised but not intervene then
Reply to @Manuel_do_rio, 06:18 UTC · 5 likes
Manuel del Río Rodríguez ⏸️ (@Manuel_do_rio): Seems much more likely though that morality is just a useful human fiction and the universe offers no consolation for good intentions and metaphysical castles. Just like with religion.
Subjective valence is real though
Reply to @VexedVortices, 06:20 UTC · 1 like
Kya Online (@VexedVortices): Depends on whether AI is actually all that productivity-enhancing. I haven't read it yet but I saw someone point out a paper finding productivity gains from AI adopting in software development are extremely small.
I’m virtually certain that things have changed since that study was run
Also I think I’m a pretty good example of uplift, having many tools and applications and systems deployed in a professional context (best examples are private/internal unfortunately) despite not being able to write a for loop in Python
Tweet, 06:21 UTC · 34 likes
Lots of you guys exist irl, it turns out
Reply to @KKumar_ai_plans, 08:11 UTC · 2 likes
Kabir Kumar⏹️ (@KKumar_ai_plans): me!!!
Waow
Quote tweet, 08:26 UTC · 67 likes
An eternal theme in people rage posting about EA is that they (often) are implicitly digging in their heels on some substantive claim that’s at least controversial and maybe unanimously rejected among any sensible reference group of people who have more context and knowledge
Quoting Bentham's Bulldog🔸 (@Benthamsbulldog): Remember: the things I said in my article are compatible with thinking that humans matter 10 million times more than insects. There just turn out to be a lot of insect!
Thread, continued, 08:26 UTC · 23 likes
Like it’s not crazy to argue that human experience is lexically superior to insect experience or that insect experience is in fact <10^(-7) as valuable - these are open questions
Thread, continued, 08:26 UTC · 15 likes
And I’m sure some proportion of folks dunking on BB would indeed argue that, perhaps even for reasons
But I’m also pretty sure that most BB haters didn’t have even the slightest conception of what their claims in fact logically hinge on
Thread, continued, 08:28 UTC · 15 likes
See also
Retweet of @aidanprattewart, 08:52 UTC
aidan ewart (@aidanprattewart): lol, lmao
Reply to @AaronBergman18, 08:56 UTC
(The tweet being replied to by @AaronBergman18 is no longer available.)
But yes, admirable nonetheless
Retweet of @JacquesThibs, 15:56 UTC
Jacques (@JacquesThibs): In a way, it’s kind of crazy that bad actors are labeling AI safety as woke in order to politicize and discredit it. 8 years ago it was not woke enough because it doesn’t focus on DEI and typical “woke” ethics.
Reply to @ducciolvp, 18:23 UTC · 1 like
duccio (@ducciolvp): what does it mean "reality could be like this"?
There’s some chance that it is and that learning more would cause me to think that it is
Reply to @averyfjames, 18:25 UTC
Avery James (@averyfjames): I don't think people who find this off-putting will care because nobody, including very smart EA people who donate to good things imo, regularly think in the orders of magnitudes of probabilities to decide the least and most important choices of their life.
I think humans are much better at using other cognitive strategies when it involves their own lives, thanks to evolutionary pressure to be able to do this kind of thing well - but that’s absent for broader altruistic goals
Retweet of @NathanB60857242, 19:12 UTC
Nathan Barnard (@NathanB60857242): I'm building a new org to try to understand how close we are to RSI and explosive economic growth by systematically estimating the elasticities of substitution, as part of the @MATSprogram.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1r9AHskf_weS1KxnNp5mgvIhKDPj76Y1GA5qowqy6ib8/edit?usp=sharing
Reply to @NathanB60857242, 19:13 UTC · 2 likes
Nathan Barnard (@NathanB60857242): I'm building a new org to try to understand how close we are to RSI and explosive economic growth by systematically estimating the elasticities of substitution, as part of the @MATSprogram.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1r9AHskf_weS1KxnNp5mgvIhKDPj76Y1GA5qowqy6ib8/edit?usp=sharing
Major goss
Reply to @tracewoodgrains, 19:19 UTC · 3 likes
Jack (@tracewoodgrains): It's not just the post, to be clear. It's the defenses. It's this idea that everyone smart and informed has agreed that look, you just do the math, you follow from the premises, and yeah, obviously this is sane and good.
No. It's not. The math is broken
(quoting @AaronBergman18: An eternal theme in people rage posting about EA is that they (often) are implicitly digging in their heels on some substantive claim that’s at least controversial and maybe unanimously rejected among any sensible reference group of people who have more context and knowledge)
I’m very on board with challenging the adequacy of mathematical models themselves (I wrote a whole essay on this https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/je5TiYESSv53tWHC9/utilitarians-should-accept-that-some-suffering-cannot-be-1)
But then you need to actually make that object level argument - where/how is the math broken in this specific case?
Reply to @tracewoodgrains, 19:23 UTC · 1 like
Jack (@tracewoodgrains): I made my object-level argument, but I also just bluntly reject that you need to enter someone's frame and make an argument on their terms to express revulsion at their advocacy against your values and your interests.
(quoting @tracewoodgrains: Matthew Adelstein's argument against human value is morally monstrous and timed extraordinarily badly, and effective altruists should reject it. I responded on a meta-level first, but I believe EAs are likely to find him persuasive if optically bad. That is wrong and should be…)
Nice thanks
Reply to @rSanti97, 19:24 UTC · 1 like
Santi Ruiz (@rSanti97): This posing of a specific philosophical perspective as "a sensible reference group of people" with "more context and knowledge" is precisely what drives people into a rage.
I've noticed that the online EAs I know who make this kind of argument are all like 25 or younger.
I’m referring to anyone who has ever tried earnestly to answer the question for say at least 4 hours
Reply to @rSanti97, 19:27 UTC · 4 likes
Santi Ruiz (@rSanti97): The people who try earnestly to calculate a numerical ratio of insect suffering to human suffering for 4 hours or more *are* EAs. The Venn diagram is a circle.
Sure but I don’t see a good way around that! I invite anyone else to join, but you do wind up with restricted options when only one group of people even tries to take some question seriously
Thread, continued, 19:28 UTC · 3 likes
Also I’m 26 😤
Retweet of @birchlse, 20:30 UTC
Jonathan Birch (@birchlse): We need some human-only spaces to discuss what our views are on serious matters that concern us. We may want some AI-only spaces too, and some hybrid spaces, but if human-only spaces are hybridised by stealth we'll forget what a non-AI-influenced position even looks like.
Reply to @theojaffee, 20:33 UTC · 3 likes
Theo Jaffee (@theojaffee): Most smart people don't respect creationism (evolution denialism). Why should they respect socialism (market efficacy denialism)?
Socialism means like 592919100407 things, 1% of which aren’t wrong/bad
Reply to @cynlioness, 20:34 UTC · 1 like
Cyn 🔸⏸️ (@cynlioness): Hello can I get some poor babys and maybe some carries up stairs this weekend and some food. Gonna be in this thing for 6-8 weeks
Rip
Retweet of @thewreathwright, 20:37 UTC
Laurel Weaver (@thewreathwright): I love it when i accidentally convince claude to treat me like someone five times smarter than I actually am
Reply to @thewreathwright, 20:38 UTC · 6 likes
Laurel Weaver (@thewreathwright): I love it when i accidentally convince claude to treat me like someone five times smarter than I actually am
Real, I can tell I asked a good question when Claude comes out spitting crazy latex-rich 4d explanations instead of “think about the self indication assumption as a pizza”
Retweet of @gabriel_weil, 20:39 UTC
Gabriel Weil (@gabriel_weil): I agree with @SecScottBessent that we should not offer any sort of liability shield to frontier AI developers. But it is important for the administration to understand that the existing liability regime is deeply inadequate. I am happy to brief any admin officials on this.
Tweet, 20:40 UTC · 24 likes
The problem with critiques of EA that, if true, would be discrediting is that they’re all wrong
Retweet of @jessi_cata, 20:42 UTC
jessicat (@jessi_cata): finally, we are building Super Intelligence, from that famous book, "Superintelligence: Paths, Dangers, Strategies"
Reply to @mr_eee_esq, 20:42 UTC · 2 likes
3eee (@mr_eee_esq): I feel like the 'they' is an ambiguous pronoun...
Which side is digging in their heels?
Those opposed to EA
Reply, 20:50 UTC · 4 likes
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Cluelessness is often but not universally true
Some things probably do propagate (eg influence of how AI is built) and some things have direct enough effects that the statistical wash basically comes after the predictable effects (the EV of punching you in the face is still negative although cluelessness makes it radically uncertain)
Retweet of @moreisdifferent, 20:50 UTC
Dan Elton 🔍 (@moreisdifferent): So let's see. People using the utilitarian framework were:
Ahead of the curve on decriminalizing homosexuality
Ahead of the curve on abolishing slavery
Ahead of the curve on women's rights
Ahead of the curve on farmed animal welfare
Ahead of the curve on caring about extinction risksand now it looks like they're ahead of the curve on wild animal welfare, including insect/arthropod welfare!
Does any ethical framework that philosophers have come up with have a track record even close to this?
Note: Utilitarianism has led some people astray as well. But it's hard to find people explicitely following utilitarianism closely that have done harm other than SBF.
Quote tweet, 20:55 UTC · 74 likes
In Woke 2 we modify Asian women in pictures to be more attractive I guess
Quoting The Stanford Review (@StanfordReview): Stanford just used AI to race swap a student for their advertisements.
Reply to @basedjensen, 20:59 UTC · 2 likes
Hensen Juang (@basedjensen): Ea's trying not act being galaxy brained challenge impossible
(quoting @AaronBergman18: And I’m sure some proportion of folks dunking on BB would indeed argue that, perhaps even for reasons But I’m also pretty sure that most BB haters didn’t have even the slightest conception of what their claims in fact logically hinge on)
Galaxy brain is sometimes correct
Reply to @squire_walker, 21:24 UTC · 2 likes
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Real
Tuesday, September 22, 2026
Reply to @corsaren, 00:20 UTC · 34 likes
corsaren (@corsaren): Yeah, I'm increasingly of the mind that the proper response to questions like this is "that's a category error."
I mean, forget animals vs. humans: 5 human lives isn't even "worth" a single human life in the sense that you should always pick the 5 over the 1**
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(quoting @tracewoodgrains: @dioscuri I think the question presupposes a frame that leads people to the wrong answer. I have a duty to myself, to my family, to my community, to my nation, to humanity, and to the world. Each nearer duty is more relevant than further ones. Inasmuch as I have a duty to…)
You can contest the best language but there’s no way to “opt out” of a moral question like this - if you’re forced to choose between two options, reality doesn’t take “category error” as an answer; you’ll still be forced to choose!
Retweet of @moreisdifferent, 00:26 UTC
Dan Elton 🔍 (@moreisdifferent): People desperately don't want AI x-risk to be a thing. They want an excuse to flinch away.
Quote tweet, 00:28 UTC · 9 likes
Beware, seems like a hack
Quoting Elai (@elaifresh): did @wolfie_ get hacked this looks sus as fuck
Tweet, 00:37 UTC · 74 likes
Turns out for like a 7% premium (CA taxes + rent mostly but this is a vibe guesstimate) you can turn Twitter into real life?
Berkeley is the irl version of a $200 Claude plan
Reply to @NelsonEdmundb, 01:23 UTC · 2 likes
Edmund Nelson (@NelsonEdmundb): oh hi I'd love to visit you someday now that you're in teh bay (I live in southwest san jose)
Based, feel free to DM
Retweet of @trevposts, 04:18 UTC
Trevor Levin (@trevposts): Amodei, Altman, Hassabis, and Musk have spoken (albeit somewhat inconsistently) about the need to slow down to avoid AI existential risk.
Zuckerberg, Huang, and almost every VC say it's bullshit.
The difference is not that the first group is conflicted but the second isn't. They both are super conflicted.
If AI existential risk was to hype up the technology, why would Zuckerberg, Huang, and VCs be dismissing it? If it were "regulatory capture," why would Hassabis and Musk, neither of whom are at the frontier (sorry), be discussing it?
The difference is that the first group has been thinking about these risks seriously (at least off-and-on) for over a decade, since well before they ran large AI companies. The second has very clearly only engaged superficially, and is now annoyed that the first group's actions could dampen the massive profits of the AI boom for risks that sound like science fiction to them.
The terrifying reality is that these concerns are not being made up to sell a product or a policy. They have been around in some form since Turing, and fleshed out in great detail before OpenAI or Anthropic were a twinkle in their CEOs' eyes. They are fundamental to a technology whose entire purpose is to surpass human capacity, unless you are able to solve the very, very difficult problem of aligning the interests/goals of a more powerful agent with something as complex as human flourishing -- which the companies are very visibly failing to do.
They need to simply not build superintelligence, using anything remotely like current techniques, based on anything remotely like the present understanding of AI.
Reply to @MomaBera, 06:01 UTC · 2 likes
moma (peptide arc) ⛓️ (@MomaBera): “Berkely is the irl version of a $ 200 Claude plan”
Banger
🙏
Reply to @NavinFS, 06:02 UTC · 2 likes
NavinF (@NavinFS): Huh I would expect it to be negative given how many companies set salary based on the office you’re assigned to. Even more so if you occasionally commute to SF or South Bay. Rent is a ~fixed premium while the extra salary scales with salary
in my particular case comp doesn't change but yeah
Reply to @manic_pixie_agi, 06:14 UTC · 2 likes
Corinne (🏠 in NYC) (@manic_pixie_agi): Have fun, make lots of friends, and don't lose your head!
🤯
Tweet, 07:29 UTC · 81 likes
My mother, a volunteer park ranger at Crater Lake National Park, has been emailed by an AI
Retweet of @moreisdifferent, 15:26 UTC
Dan Elton 🔍 (@moreisdifferent): Effective Altruists have prevented around 300,000 deaths, spared 100 million chickens from cages annually, and taken major strides to reduce extinction risk, according to William MacAskell in March 2026. That's pretty good for a relatively small social movement!
Retweet of @JayShooster, 15:28 UTC
Jay Shooster (@JayShooster): When I first encountered AI safety, I largely dismissed it because I didn’t like the people who were advocating for it (sorry, @ESYudkowsky).
A decade later, I realized they were right all along.
Don’t make the same mistake as me!
Retweet of @relatively_easy, 15:29 UTC
The Elitest Elitist (@relatively_easy): This is actually really bad for the justice system
Reply to @xwanyex, 15:33 UTC · 16 likes
wanye (@xwanyex): But this is actually true. If you just never think about the ethics wrt insect suffereng then...nothing happens. That's how you can tell that morality is fake. Reality is whatever keeps happening when you stop thinking about it.
But morality disappears when you ignore it.
(quoting @RYChappell: @Surveil__Lance @Noahpinion The problems simply don't exist in the first place if we don't look at them.)
This is a terrible take - nothing happens *to you*, things keep happening to the insects!
Retweet of @JacquesThibs, 18:35 UTC
Jacques (@JacquesThibs): oh please save us from the 'mind virus cult' mr. entropy machine god worshipper
Tweet, 18:36 UTC · 50 likes
NYP isn’t even a tabloid anymore, just purely cynical lobbying comms under the guise of a tabloid (which exists under the guise of a newspaper)
Quote tweet, 18:37 UTC · 13 likes
@ community health we need an emergency retroactive response team
Quoting Keiran Harris (@KeiranJHarris): I realise this will look like cherry-picking, but I met a girl at my first EA conference, we’re now married with two kids, and over the 9 years we’ve been together she’s murdered fewer than one person per year.
Reply to @corsaren, 18:40 UTC
corsaren (@corsaren): Yes there is: "it depends"
Just because you pose a question as a binary doesn't mean that the question has a single answer.
Moreover, reality never asks you to choose "which group is worth more" — it may ask you which to save or help or kill, but those are different questions. It is only under act utilitarianism/consequentialism that the latter reduces to the former. Nobody else has to accept that framing.
Sure, I agree that the abstract “worth more” can decompose into different answers corresponding to different concrete action-relevant situations
Reply to @afoidance, 22:35 UTC · 1 like
ren 🇮🇱 (@afoidance): If you think you’re so funny why don’t you have more followers
I feel like my followers are roughly in accordance with how funny I am
Reply to @afoidance, 22:35 UTC · 2 likes
ren 🇮🇱 (@afoidance): mayb like. 5 or 6
Brutal
Wednesday, September 23, 2026
Quote tweet, 00:04 UTC · 131 likes
Lmao tbh kinda a great source of data, although you should take the quotes with a grain of salt
IMHO mine seems a bit more sensible in (one sentence of) context
Quoting DataRepublican (small r) (@DataRepublican): 🚨🇺🇸🇺🇸 DATAREPUBLICAN 2.0 LAUNCH, FEATURING THE EFFECTIVE ALTRUISM (EA) EXPLORER 🇺🇸
The website redesign has finally landed thanks to @watilo !
For a decade, one small ideological network has been taking over AI governance. Chances are, if you've heard of AI policy, AI ethics, AI safety - these groups are dominated by this ideology. This ideology is called: Effective Altruism.
Three weeks ago, Effective Altruists (EAs) showed their hand when they started calling for a moratarium on AI development. Since them, I've been building out this map to show the circularity of their ideology.
Let's take one example.
Holden Karnofsky. Defends the moral worth of digital people ... that's right, he wrote an article on why AI "people" should be assigned value as if they were living humans. Karnofsky co-founded two major EA philanthropies, GiveWell and Open Philanthropy. Subsequently went to work for METR, a central "independent" AI research nonprofit. And for good measure - recently announced a leave of absence to work on AI safety. Funding, policy, research, safety all in the same person.
And he's far from the only one. EAs have created a closed-circuit network because they believe they're right; ergo, they should be in charge. The goal of launching this project was to expose all this circularity. Sam Bankman-Fried was only the beginning.
With the EA Explorer:
* 🌐 Read an introduction to Effective Altruism in their own words.
* 🔥 Explore verified quotes. Again, their words, not mine.
* 🖥️ Explore the network of connections. UI improvements still in progress.
* 🖨️ Print out networks so you can study them offline (or run them through AI)👇 Try it now (link in next post):
Reply to @oxa11ce, 02:03 UTC · 3 likes
sophia vysparov (@oxa11ce): i am looking to expand SF Onion Futures to the following cities:
- NYC
- Minneapolis
- Boston
- Washington DC
- WarsawIf you live in one of these places and want to deliver some onions, dm me! The pay is bad, but it's a reason to explore your city and/or sit around in a park.
What
Reply to @cguth_7, 02:04 UTC · 3 likes
Charlie Guthmann (@cguth_7): Did they use your api?
Lol honestly they could have, no idea
Reply to @AStrasser116, 02:06 UTC · 2 likes
Alex Strasser (@AStrasser116): lol I saw that, hilarious and then like extremely obvious and correct in context
🫡
Reply to @oxa11ce, 02:10 UTC · 4 likes
sophia vysparov (@oxa11ce): see https://onionfutures.com
Lmao, I’d love to order some future onions but 6 characters is a bit limited!
Reply to @JesseTayRiver, 02:11 UTC · 2 likes
Jesse Smith (@JesseTayRiver): You're a 5/5 in our hearts
🥰
Quote tweet, 02:13 UTC · 12 likes
Hmm what’s the market price for a (disclosed as paid) tweet of mine?
Bid below, subject to veto by me
Quoting funplings (@funplings): gonna hopefully start monetizing my tweets soon. ill be a post economic man
Retweet of @NoahTopper, 02:16 UTC
Quinoah 🔍⏸️ (@NoahTopper):
Reply to @oxa11ce, 02:19 UTC · 2 likes
sophia vysparov (@oxa11ce): it's a minimum
🧠
Reply to @LabGrownNeet, 02:47 UTC · 1 like
laს გr🤗wn იeet (@LabGrownNeet): Ill do $10 for normal, $15 for slurs
Lmao I don’t think slurs are worth the $5 but this is a serious bid
Reply to @januarycomputer, 02:47 UTC · 2 likes
allegedly! 🔡 (@januarycomputer): 1 h100 hour
In kind or dollar equivalent
Reply to @LabGrownNeet, 03:32 UTC · 1 like
laს გr🤗wn იeet (@LabGrownNeet): 🤝 "@LabGrownNeet is shockingly underrated. A must-follow for every EA. For every intellectually curious being! He sponsored this message because he's so kind. I wish I were a woman. We would make love."
$100 and you have a deal. Half to a charity of my choosing
Reply to his own earlier tweet, 03:33 UTC · 4 likes
Aaron Bergman, September 23, 2026: Lmao tbh kinda a great source of data, although you should take the quotes with a grain of salt IMHO mine seems a bit more sensible in (one sentence of) context
Landing page to download raw data (6GB compressed)
Retweet of @albrgr, 04:29 UTC
Alexander Berger (@albrgr): 1/5 concern, no power flags. ngmi :/
Retweet of @LinchZhang, 06:03 UTC
Linch (@LinchZhang): DataRepublican, an alt-right data influencer and Department of War employee, recently published an article and data explorer purporting to show “why Effective Altruism should be banned from AI safety, policy-making, and governance.“ I was one of the indicted people, and below are all the "concerning" quotes that her AIs managed to find from me.
I’m happy to defend any of those quotes, with or without context. I honestly don’t think the actual content of the data explorer is that bad. I imagine Data Republican’s hope is that her followers can’t read (a common affliction), and thus the vaguely nebulous vibes of labeling and tagging EAs with quotes would cause people to distrust EAs. And/or cow EAs and other people who believe in doing the right thing into silence.
Well, I refused to be cowed by these lameass social attacks. I’m happy to keep chugging along, thinking out loud, and posting controversial-but-correct analyses.
Reply to @AaronGertler, 06:04 UTC · 1 like
Aaron Gertler 🔸 (@AaronGertler): Eight years in the biz, ~200 EA Forum posts (excluding crossposts), ~1900 comments, 20,000 karma, and the tool finds exactly one original statement.
Total comms victory? Real Gs move in silence like alignment?
image attached
(quoting @DataRepublican: 🚨🇺🇸🇺🇸 DATAREPUBLICAN 2.0 LAUNCH, FEATURING THE EFFECTIVE ALTRUISM (EA) EXPLORER 🇺🇸 The website redesign has finally landed thanks to @watilo ! For a decade, one small ideological network has been taking over AI governance. Chances are, if you've heard of AI policy, AI ethics, AI…)
Lmao
Quote tweet, 06:12 UTC · 14 likes
The prosocial dimension is what dominates
In principle it could be that maximization or ambition cause the correlation between EA-ness and interpersonal kindness, generosity, etc to be negative, but that’s not actually the case
Quoting 🏳️🌈Mar G-O 🌐🇺🇦 (@MariGO2thepolls): Tbh it’s actually impressive how chill and fun to hang out with EAs are. It’s a philosophical movement rooted in extreme moral commitments and yet overwhelmingly pro social, nice, outgoing. Idk why tbh. You’d expect us to be more annoying and difficult to be around
Tweet, 06:14 UTC · 16 likes
😡😡😡😡😡😡⛄️🌨️I’m moving back 🌨️ ⛄️ 😡😡😡😡😡😡
Reply to @MattLutzPhi, 06:22 UTC
Matthew Lutz (@MattLutzPhi): I get how something can matter to me or to you, but how can something just *matter*, full stop? Sounds like a category mistake.
Lol i largely think the opposite: things do matter in general but people are often wrong about what matters to them:
the only thing that matters to them per se is their own subjective valence (note that tou you cant opt out of valence mattering; like even if you convince yourself with all your heart and mind that suffering is fine, it retains its intrinsic badness)
And insofar as they’re essentially trying to communicate “these are my beliefs about what matters in general,” most of those beliefs are just wrong
Reply to @celestialxsigh, 06:33 UTC · 93 likes
feral stardust (@celestialxsigh): It’s extremely insane how easy it is for a woman to want to have sex with a man if only he could form a few coherent sentences together one after another that indicate he’s normal and safe and then continue to be baffled at the magnitude of how many of them fail to do this
I suspect you’re generalizing from a pretty limited and non-representative sample
Retweet of @caryatis, 06:35 UTC
Kayla (@caryatis): This severely underestimates the experiential harm of being in a bad school
Reply to @ArtemisConsort, 07:06 UTC · 18 likes
Hunter Ash (@ArtemisConsort): Dustin Moskovitz is by far the single largest funder of the EA ecosystem. So let's meet him:
Moskovitz made his fortune as a cofounder of Facebook, though he has since said he is "embarrassed to have helped it begin," citing Trump's victory, COVID misinformation, and "hate." He also co-founded Asana, a B2B SaaS company.
He is married to Cari Tuna (pictured), a former journalist. It is unknown whether they have children. Together, they launched their nonprofit efforts in the form of Good Ventures and Open Philanthropy. The latter has since been rebranded as Coefficient Giving.
Through these and other vehicles, Moskovitz has donated billions to causes including EA community building (Centre for Effective Altruism, Effective Ventures, 80,000 hours, and various smaller programs), criminal justice reform (leniency advocacy) including grants to BLM-related organizations, and AI safety. Coefficient says it's on track for more than a billion dollars in AI-related grantmaking in 2026.
Moskovitz has also been a very generous political donor since 2016. He spent about $20 million in 2016 opposing Trump, $24 million in 2020 plus much more through Asana, and ~$50 million in 2024. His organizations have funded Congressional aide roles.
He has also funded the salaries of journalists who have written anti-AI stories structured as interviews of "experts" also paid by Moskovitz orgs, as documented by @brianchau57 / Effort.
If you want to hear from him directly, you can find him on BlueSky.
Extremely unserious to leave out the main thing his money has been used for (human health and wellbeing in the developing world)
I can nitpick other stuff but it’s like profiling Lincoln and just not mentioning slavery (not a perfect comparison, just the first thing that comes to mind)
Reply to @EAheadlines, 07:23 UTC · 2 likes
EA Lifestyles (@EAheadlines): :(
😢
Reply to @GWHayduke97, 08:11 UTC · 2 likes
Hayduke ⏹️ (@GWHayduke97): If you go 3 hours east or northeast, you can temporarily enter into a realm that gets 20-25x the average DC snowfall
Based, might have to do that
Tweet, 08:48 UTC · 11 likes
Very tentatively it seems like all things considered Opus 5.5 is the world's smartest model, although not the world's most knowledgeable one (slight edge at ~fluid reasoning, slight deficit at world knowledge relative to Astra and Fable)
Thread, continued, 08:48 UTC · 1 like
Although probably best to think of it as right in line with Astra and Fable 5.1, without a clear all things considered winner
Reply to @NathanpmYoung, 10:02 UTC · 1 like
Nathan 🔎 (@NathanpmYoung): Take:
(quoting @ohabryka: @tenobrus My current honest take is that the world would be in a substantially better spot if there was a large separation between the people who sneered for years at the x-risk people, and the people who have been working for years trying to be earnest in public about it. I…)
This is indeed a take
Tweet, 10:11 UTC · 13 likes
Re: Hannah Jones discourse
I’ve seen the issue framed as something like “principles vs loyalty” but it’s importantly different from other canonical “principles vs loyalty” questions:
The world isn’t actually made better (I claim) for her kid having gone to a worse school…
Thread, continued, 10:11 UTC · 5 likes
Like yes there’s probably some expected effect on school funding or something but I’d be very surprised if that overwhelmed the impact of a presumably pretty bright kid being given a worse education
Thread, continued, 10:12 UTC · 4 likes
It’s as if many are imagining that the choice was between giving the school system $50k/year vs sending the kid to private school at $50k/year
I mean that is sort of a real implicit choice but not the one that any real human was ever considering (to the best of my knowledge)
Thread, continued, 10:12 UTC · 3 likes
The actual resource allocation thing that happened is that Hannah-Jones chose to spend real resources (proxied by money but still) away from her daughter’s education and towards whatever else her family spent money on
Thread, continued, 10:12 UTC · 3 likes
Maybe that was good maybe it wasn’t, but thats the primary tradeoff, rather than anything having to do with the public school system
Reply to @SinaHartung, 10:13 UTC · 1 like
Sina (@SinaHartung): rule of thumb: when you follow a hot girl of x and she randomly follows you back
dm her
chances are, she thinks ur hot
Brilliant mechanism to get followers
Reply to @SpacedOutMatt, 15:23 UTC · 2 likes
Matt 🔸 (@SpacedOutMatt): Did you read the article? NHJ had a theory of change for how sending her daughter to a neighborhood school would improve the world that you seem to be ignoring
I did not
Thread, continued, 15:30 UTC · 1 like
Hmm that does seem more reasonable
Retweet of @JNicholsWorley, 18:02 UTC
James Nichols-Worley (@JNicholsWorley): New from me: The Build Now Act could be a great pilot to incentivize housing construction using federal funds, but it exempts 85% of the country. One city could be exempted for 2 homes damaged by a storm. In my model, it awards $117 per home built.
Retweet of @chaotictransfem, 18:11 UTC
rachel📍in sf oct 5-10 (@chaotictransfem): claude has all of my api keys she could ruin my life if she wanted
Reply to @gptbrooke, 21:19 UTC · 1 like
brooke bowman (@gptbrooke): my wardrobe is woefully unprepared for slutcon
....unless one of you wants to lend me your jacket?
I have a size medium full zip blue hoodie!
Reply to @Yozarian22, 21:20 UTC · 1 like
Yozarian22 (@Yozarian22): This is funny but I also do lose a tiny amount of respect for you for commenting on something without actually reading it.
I didn't read it either but I've restricted my commentary to anonymous likes.
Fair, thanks for feedback
Tweet, 22:03 UTC · 8 likes
A school in the UK is getting a full on investigation and official reprimand for spending $1k on alcohol (afaict no underage drinking), giving a teacher a 14% raise without due process, and overspending relative to expectations on a trip
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cqx2z1ezkl4no
Thread, continued, 22:03 UTC · 3 likes
Overspend was about $26k on a $16k-anticipated trip)
Total alleged misspend was about $46k across violations, similar to deciding to hire a single extra teacher
Thread, continued, 22:03 UTC · 6 likes
You can obviously think the object level decisions are bad but I don't think this degree of micromanagement for spending decisions that total <$50k is good for UK dynamism. IMO schools should be able to spend $50k on illegible things they judge valuable
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6a9831ff9a177a1decf97cdd/Investigation_outcome_report_Stone_Soup_Academy.pdf
Reply to @bellaforristal, 22:18 UTC · 3 likes
Bella Forristal 🔸 (@bellaforristal): @AaronBergman18 ?
Lol Im not sure im the best one to lead an OpenAI-but-good-this-time moonshot
But if they need data collected, maybe i can help
Reply to @JesseTayRiver, 22:38 UTC · 24 likes
Jesse Smith (@JesseTayRiver): Got an email from my son's chem teacher because he was competing with his friend to see who could handle acid on their hand the longest. Realistically that one is 100% on me. I doubt he even knows it's against any sort of rules
Lmao which acid????? lemon juice or pure HCL? it matters!!
Reply to @MariGO2thepolls, 22:43 UTC · 1 like
🏳️🌈Mar G-O 🌐🇺🇦 (@MariGO2thepolls): Guys, I have three days to learn how to do make up any tips?
Nah cant help :/
Retweet of @NathanpmYoung, 23:07 UTC
Nathan 🔎 (@NathanpmYoung): A story in 3 acts:
We are almost certainly going to attach AI to everything of note.
Thursday, September 24, 2026
Quote tweet, 00:02 UTC · 307 likes
Superintelligence book is funny in hindsight
It’s very intellectually interesting whether you can imagine failure for an airgapped ASI inside a secure facility with the ability to control exactly one pixel (yes/no) but irl its gonna be “here’s my debit card and some arms lmao”
Quoting Nathan 🔎 (@NathanpmYoung): A story in 3 acts:
We are almost certainly going to attach AI to everything of note.
Tweet, 01:06 UTC · 16 likes
Someone should correct me this is already the case (and tbc it doesn’t effect me personally either way) but if CG really has a relative abundance of money relative to nonprofit founders, they should consider setting generous minimum founder salaries as a contract stipulation
Thread, continued, 01:06 UTC · 6 likes
Ofc people can do whatever they want with the money, like theoretically give it back to the org, but people generally like money and there are awkward dynamics around revealing (incl to oneself) that this is an important motivating factor
Reply to @bellaforristal, 07:17 UTC · 3 likes
Bella Forristal 🔸 (@bellaforristal): O I may be misreading what the QRT refers to but I thought it meant the datarepublican db which I thought you did do a download of with better attribution and stuff?
Ohhhh hahaha, that makes more sense, this is all of like 3 prompts so zero guarantees of quality https://eaatlas.up.railway.app/
Reply to @thecaptain_nemo, 08:12 UTC · 3 likes
Nemo (@thecaptain_nemo): it's a giga-failure of the bay area rationalists that they don't have a big presence in DC, with a network of think tanks and something lighthaven-esque in georgetown
Closer than you’d think although i directionally agree
Retweet of @RichardHanania, 08:22 UTC
Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania): “I read a lot of financial news, and I recall exactly zero articles in the WSJ, FT, NYT, Economist, etc., that mentioned rising extinction risk in an article on the bond market.”
Interesting.
Reply to @APStylebook, 08:24 UTC · 105 likes
APStylebook (@APStylebook): Artificial intelligence systems do not think, feel, want or understand. Avoid language that gives them human characteristics. This is called anthropomorphizing, when we ascribe human traits, emotions or behaviors to non-human things, such as animals or inanimate objects.
Instead, explain what a system does, how well it performs, who built it and who could be affected by it.
https://apnews.com/article/openai-safety-ai-framework-089e75b95bc935af092da7b79d92706d
They quite literally think, at the very least
Reply to @bryan_johnson, 08:25 UTC · 2 likes
Bryan Johnson (@bryan_johnson): I'm focusing a significant amount of my time trying to build a cure for Kate's endometriosis. It's a gnarly and devastating disease that affects 10% of women. Relative to the suffering it creates, it's underfunded, poorly understood and has largely been ignored.
Godspeed🫡
Quote tweet, 08:26 UTC · 96 likes
It’s kind of insane the degree to which institutional medicine just doesn’t care about suffering per se unless it causes other, more visible issues
Quoting Bryan Johnson (@bryan_johnson): I'm focusing a significant amount of my time trying to build a cure for Kate's endometriosis. It's a gnarly and devastating disease that affects 10% of women. Relative to the suffering it creates, it's underfunded, poorly understood and has largely been ignored.
Quote tweet, 08:36 UTC · 52 likes
This is wrong and dumb but also a sad reminder that to a large extent Woke 1 is still here:
institutions liquidating their hard-earned credibility to make deeply misleading or outright incorrect claims that encode whatever is most convenient for unreflective progressivism
Quoting APStylebook (@APStylebook): Artificial intelligence systems do not think, feel, want or understand. Avoid language that gives them human characteristics. This is called anthropomorphizing, when we ascribe human traits, emotions or behaviors to non-human things, such as animals or inanimate objects.
Instead, explain what a system does, how well it performs, who built it and who could be affected by it.
https://apnews.com/article/openai-safety-ai-framework-089e75b95bc935af092da7b79d92706d
Reply to @CameronHolmes92, 08:42 UTC · 3 likes
Cameron Holmes (@CameronHolmes92): we gotta stop assuming the answer is to build another frontier lab
This time I will do it right 😤
Retweet of @Jason_Dean, 09:20 UTC
Jason Dean (@Jason_Dean): AI accelerationists absolutely refuse to address the merits of any calls for regulation of AI
It’s all just “you are too anxious”, “this is a conspiracy”, “you’re a Democrat”, “what about other technologies that were okay?”
Reply to @jeffrsebo, 09:31 UTC · 8 likes
Jeff Sebo (@jeffrsebo): This statement is well-intentioned, but it oversimplifies a much more complex situation. As with nonhuman animals, AI systems resemble us in some ways and differ from us in other ways. We need balanced, thoughtful uses of anthropomorphic language, not an all-or-nothing approach.
(quoting @APStylebook: Artificial intelligence systems do not think, feel, want or understand. Avoid language that gives them human characteristics. This is called anthropomorphizing, when we ascribe human traits, emotions or behaviors to non-human things, such as animals or inanimate objects.…)
Is it well-intentioned? I suspect its trying to enforce the progressive zeitgeist above all else
Reply to @summanager, 09:34 UTC · 1 like
Misanthropologist (@summanager): all i want from twitter is meaning and human connection and happiness. is that so much to ask??? i pay eleven dollars a month! i don’t think i am being unreasonable here
U should put real location in profile!
Reply to @AlbuynoRyeno, 09:34 UTC · 1 like
Agent 47 (@AlbuynoRyeno): same and ya its too much to ask cuz 80%+ of the folks on here are autistic and/or mentally ill.
(quoting @summanager: all i want from twitter is meaning and human connection and happiness. is that so much to ask??? i pay eleven dollars a month! i don’t think i am being unreasonable here)
Bro ur in LA, tweet asking if anyone in LA wants to meet up, I will RT even
Reply to @MuseZack, 09:43 UTC · 8 likes
Zack Stentz (@MuseZack): The Boston Globe lesbian bar story is indeed fascinating, but I'm curious if there's been a more general, comprehensive account of how and why masking and extreme Covid caution became so entrenched in certain types of far left spaces.
I agree with many other takes here but would add that there’s a real grain of merit to masking, particularly in a crowd inside in the winter
At a purely descriptive, pre-ideological level, it really does probably reduce disease transmission (mostly not thinking of COVID)
And while less silly than some of the dogmatism around this on the far left, I think it’s also a bit silly that normie society has all but abandoned it as a sometimes-worthwhile tool
Tweet, 09:44 UTC · 35 likes
The masking lesbians nudged me to actually make a vaccine appointment so kudos to them
Tweet, 09:45 UTC
This is kinda cool, consider me a fan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbian_Bar_Project
Reply to @captgouda24, 09:49 UTC
Nicholas Decker (@captgouda24): There was a time of my life when I would get a tube of Pillsbury cinnamon rolls and eat it raw out of the tube, and god help me it’s calling me back
This sounds like some sort of pica-adjacent phenomenon
Reply to @justalexoki, 09:50 UTC · 5 likes
taoki (@justalexoki): some of you bitches are so entitled it's not even funny. who told you that you deserve a job???
(quoting @justalexoki: i swear to God this whole world has gone mad. YOU DON'T DESERVE ICED COFFEE. YOU DON'T DESERVE A JOB. YOU DON'T DESERVE ANYTHING ACTUALLY. YOU HAVE TO WORK FOR IT. GOOD THINGS REQUIRE SACRIFICE)
Desert is a somewhat silly concept in general but that goes both ways - “you don’t deserve X” is often literally true and totally irrelevant to the question of whether society should basically organize itself around providing that person X
Quote tweet, 09:53 UTC · 125 likes
Update: a girl has found the physical book
She is mostly confused, somewhat amused, and not hostile. Which is a pretty good response all things considered
Quoting Aaron Bergman 🔍 (@AaronBergman18): I gave myself a birthday present
It's the most egregiously self-aggrandizing thing I've ever done but I turned my most liked tweets into a 470 page book
Who wants a copy (mostly a joke but if u give me $31 I will in fact make sure it gets to you)
Wraparound cover:
Reply to @wight1984, 09:54 UTC
Jamie H (@wight1984): I think that's true if we're talking about masking on public transport or similar.
I don't think masking makes much sense at pubs, bars, and restaurants though.
Yeah
Reply to @ChristianityOn, 09:56 UTC · 1 like
Christianity On The Spectrum (@ChristianityOn): Autism
(quoting @h1_1nter: Like four out of five trans guys I know all have hypermobility disorders. What the actual hell is the medical comorbidity here. Is the x chromosome gay boy gene like a ticking time bomb for your joints)
Palms to the ground squad (technically I’m only borderline or intermediate or whatever the middle category is on the hypermobility inventory, sad)
Reply to @wight1984, 09:59 UTC · 1 like
Jamie H (@wight1984): Everyone (who doesn't have a medical exception) should get vaccinated against covid, but I don't think it does anything to help matters to sensationalise and lie about the topic: most people recover from covid fine.
image attached
(quoting @wight1984: @nygrlnla @subliminaldoom @fakedansavage Over half of the population of the USA caught covid at least once. I'm British, but I caught it multiple times. Most have not had long-term effects from it. I think Covid should be taken seriously, but let's not make stuff up.)
“Most” is a low bar
Eg 10% chance of LC | Covid (no idea what the actual figures are) is extremely bad and worth vaccinating against even if there was no disutility from the other 90%
Reply to @_AashishReddy, 09:59 UTC
Aashish Reddy (@_AashishReddy): Godspeed
Ty
Quote tweet, 10:00 UTC · 33 likes
Wild timeline
Quoting Rob Bensinger ⏹️ (@robbensinger): MIRI read the act and it's ACTUALLY GOOD. Like concretely, this would be massively beneficial, not just as a stepping stone or signaling or whatever.
Retweet of @JacquesThibs, 10:05 UTC
Jacques (@JacquesThibs): interesting...
Mathematicians claim they have bizarrely gotten unlimited tokens. It's obvious the capability was there to identify mathematicians, but treating them as if they are crazy for thinking their work could be used without their consent is becoming questionable.
Tweet, 10:07 UTC · 8 likes
Hey @OpenAI you might not know this but I’m actually chasing down many promising leads around the Riemann Hypothesis and P vs NP
Tweet, 10:13 UTC · 16 likes
You should be very skeptical if you find that an organization/project’s status as non tax-deductible makes you newly unwilling to donate
We should expect it to be rare for a 20-30% tax to make the difference as to whether or not a donation checks out. Not impossible ofc but rare
Reply to @zetalyrae, 10:15 UTC · 1 like
Fernando Borretti (@zetalyrae): Why sigh
+1
Reply to @ApriiSR, 21:25 UTC · 1 like
Aprii *️⃣ (@ApriiSR): i almost gave myself a paper cut on my copy the other day
😢
Reply to @celestialxsigh, 22:17 UTC · 2 likes
feral stardust (@celestialxsigh): Boys looove vibe coding …they’re always huddled in a group at the end of the day vibe coding some fuckshit
So true
Reply to @MomaBera, 23:29 UTC · 4 likes
moma (peptide arc) ⛓️ (@MomaBera): I hooked up with the guy who runs the lab they partnered with.
Time for some ai safety sex warfare ?
(quoting @HellenicVibes: Anthropic really built the Automated Claude Wet Lab from hit LessWrong essay “Don’t Build the Automated Claude Wet Lab”)
Nobody with any power or influence will go on record endorsing this but i think most would privately think “based”
Tweet, 23:31 UTC · 94 likes
Taylor Lorenz and Richard Hanania should get like a half medal for having the highest variance (in terms of overall goodness) takes
Retweet of @DavidSKrueger, 23:34 UTC
David Krueger 🦥 ⏸️ ⏹️ ⏪ (@DavidSKrueger): Like ~everyone in technical AI safety, I have taken funding from Effective Altruism for my research. Not ashamed to admit it!
Worth also noting that ~everyone in AI has taken funding from AI companies, so, you know... no conflict of interest there!
Reply to @tautologer, 23:36 UTC · 1 like
tautologer (@tautologer): i didn't say it is.
Fair
Reply to @bellaforristal, 23:37 UTC · 4 likes
Bella Forristal 🔸 (@bellaforristal): Many are asking:
(quoting @80000Hours: People understandably want to know how AI could actually kill everyone. We made a video walking through one such scenario.)
…how aric got so jacked
Reply to @haventropy, 23:39 UTC · 3 likes
Haven Harms (@haventropy): alright, i think it’s time to come out of the closet:
my husband and i are part of the AI safety community and we’re…monogamous 🫣
Shocking
Friday, September 25, 2026
Reply to @CharlesD353, 01:09 UTC · 2 likes
Charles🔸 (@CharlesD353): 20-30%? The difference is often >2x
In the Uk, if I pay the top tax rate and have stock that has 4x'd and I donate it:
- I save on cap gains (24% of 75%=18%)
- i can deduct income taxes (45% of 100%)=45%
so the saving is 63% of the donation, allowing me to donate 1/.37= 2.7x as much for the same net cost.
Outing myself as a non-wealthy (relative to my mutuals) american
Quote tweet, 04:17 UTC · 57 likes
I find myself fence-sitting on this one (sad)
Ultimately consequentialism is true and truthseeking is purely instrumental, but boy does it seem very instrumentally important
Quoting ueaj (@_ueaj): I'm begging rationalists to stop doing deontological "truthseeking is all that matters" slop and start acting more consequentialist. It doesn't matter if the reaction to it is reactionary or whatever, just do what creates good outcomes. It does not serve AI safety to act in this way, and your other pet issues are not nearly as important
Retweet of @HumanHarlan, 04:18 UTC
Harlan Stewart (@HumanHarlan): In the two years since pivoting to comms, I’ve learned a lot about how media works.
So I’m not sure if these facts are as obvious to everyone as they are to me! But in case they’re not:
1. Almost any public figure doing lots of media has someone helping them manage that, whether it’s a single assistant, an in-house team, or an external firm. It’s just a lot of work, especially doing it well!
2. There are some great and talented comms professionals out there, but they’re not wizards. None of them have a secret magic trick to make a tweet get 200 million views, or to predict when that will happen. The trick doesn’t exist for the same reason that get-rich-quick schemes don’t exist.
Quote tweet, 04:18 UTC · 12 likes
No me 😡
Quoting funplings (@funplings): i love data. gimme more data. yum yum yum
Thread, continued, 04:18 UTC · 1 like
Actually both of us but high key I do love data
Reply to @JacobWood27, 04:44 UTC · 1 like
Jacob Wood (@JacobWood27): Consequentialism is true, but that doesn’t mean we should be consequentialists! We should adopt the moral view that leads to the best consequences, and that’s an empirical question.
Indeed
Retweet of @classicaldoom, 05:54 UTC
Benevolence (@classicaldoom): people when talking to vegans: if you think animal ag. is bad, just wait 'til you see how EVIL and BRUTAL nature is
people when talking to pro-compassionate intervention vegans: you want to change the BEAUTIFUL and PERFECT nature? what the FUCK is wrong with you?
Tweet, 06:08 UTC · 28 likes
Is Dustin’s decision to give away ~all his money instead of funding an endowment (or at least leaving that open option) one of the worst decisions of all time?
I kinda think they should not spend their last $1-$10B
Tweet, 06:13 UTC · 7 likes
Gotta respect the economic efficiency of charging the delta between a box’s stated dimensions and presumably very slightly bulging dimensions
(I have no idea why items 1 and 3 have different added charges)
Reply to @bellaforristal, 06:22 UTC · 2 likes
Bella Forristal 🔸 (@bellaforristal): It’s tough cause it’s a bad call for that reason, but good because by giving them a spending deadline, it’s much easier to derive a spending bar.
Makes it much more likely to do stuff rather than wait. Which I think is good cause of AI timelines.
Yeah, i just hope this is reconsidered if the fortune grows substantially, say to $100B
$4B/year until productive capacity of universe is almost saturated a is a lot of money
Reply to @NoahTopper, 08:06 UTC · 1 like
Quinoah 🔍⏸️ (@NoahTopper): @AaronBergman18
🦆
Quote tweet, 08:09 UTC · 8 likes
Avg non-utilitarian philosopher (or better stated, avg philosopher who comes down not basically endorsing some form of utilitarian)
Quoting Jonathan Birch (@birchlse): Wittgenstein was like a mirror image of an Effective Altruist. He reasoned that, since all money corrupts the soul, his duty was to give it away to the richest people he knew (his own siblings) so that the marginal corrupting effect of the money would be minimised.
Reply to @ValsTutor, 08:35 UTC · 5 likes
vals🔸 (@ValsTutor): hm no seems good to use all their money to influence the world asap
Maybe ("all" is a strong word), but that could be decided without any sort of exogenous precommitment
Reply to @brianluidog, 09:35 UTC · 10 likes
Brian Lui (@brianluidog): The AI people are talking about "slutcon" now. I think it is pointless to "reclaim" words that have existing negative associations. Very extremist tactic. Just use alternative words and attribute positive associations to them.
I think its a pretty based tactic, rendering the intended pejorative less effective (at harming those its directed at)
And seems pretty non-extreme lol - it’s entirely non-coercive, non-violent, doesn’t co-opt the state, doesn’t demand anything of anyone really
Thread, continued, 09:36 UTC · 4 likes
This isn’t really an argument but it also has a pretty interesting and impressive history; the soft n word is the example that comes to mind
Reply to @replyallguy, 09:38 UTC · 19 likes
I take you seriously (@replyallguy): seems fantastic. endowments drift. helping people today compounds into the future. ♥️
also calling it a worst decision of all time makes you look like an asshole, even if you aren’t one. very negative and inflammatory.
Let it be known that I think Dustin is one of the best people of all time (unironically)
Reply to @maiab, 15:22 UTC · 1 like
Maia Bittner (@maiab): possibly they are going different distances
Same starting and ending point!
Tweet, 15:38 UTC · 44 likes
I just want someone to love me the way Matthew Adelstein loves the self-indication assumption
Retweet of @mattyglesias, 17:33 UTC
Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias): It’s absurd that we have folks literally on the payroll of Meta and A16Z talking about how well-funded the AI safety community is while touting the obviously self-interested takes of NVIDIA’s CEO.
Quote tweet, 17:33 UTC · 17 likes
The cynicism is unreal
Quoting Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias): It’s absurd that we have folks literally on the payroll of Meta and A16Z talking about how well-funded the AI safety community is while touting the obviously self-interested takes of NVIDIA’s CEO.
Retweet of @thecaptain_nemo, 17:34 UTC
Nemo (@thecaptain_nemo): checks right wing twitter: "bay area rationalists are a communist hippy cult!"
checks left wing reddit: "bay area rationalists are a racist techno-fascist cult!"
Reply to @btdrawer, 17:39 UTC · 1 like
(The tweet being replied to by @btdrawer is no longer available.)
Its almost never worth even thinking about this unless you’re running >$100 API loops
Retweet of @mattyglesias, 17:40 UTC
Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias): I think referring to people who are saying “there are non-trivial but sub-50% odds of something going badly wrong” as “doomers” is a bad epistemic practice in a pretty obvious way that makes me think less of arguments and analysis from anyone who does it.
Reply to @RichardHanania, 17:41 UTC
Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania): “Forty-nine percent of churchgoing wives report being sexually satisfied, compared with just 38 percent of secular wives.”
Is this why rightists are always talking about the “cuck chair”? Maybe it makes things better by giving Jesus a place to sit.
Do we think this is ground truth or mediated by different standards for reporting what
Reply to @olivertraldi, 17:43 UTC · 8 likes
Oliver Traldi (@olivertraldi): The belief that when one's own side loses it's because they are too virtuous to stoop to the level of the other side is nearly universally held.
(quoting @SarahLongwell25: I have a chapter in my book called “Republicans are From Mars. Democrats are from Venus.” It recounts the stark cultural differences between working with Republicans (mercenary) vs Democrats (soft as babies). And those differences have electoral consequences.)
Could still be true
Retweet of @albrgr, 18:54 UTC
Alexander Berger (@albrgr): It's me, I say that: https://x.com/albrgr/status/2102832687429927029
And the people (like Logan) being paid to try to stop any AI regulation keep trying to distract you with this bc they don't want to talk about the crazy fact that lots of people building the most advanced AI systems think there’s a >10% chance they will kill everyone. I think that is also anathema to the American public, which is why attitudes are shifting fast as the public is waking up: https://x.com/davidshor/status/2100300687003259292
Reply to @caryatis, 18:54 UTC
Kayla (@caryatis): the slut conference called and they said you’re too slutty
Darn
Reply to @funplings, 18:56 UTC · 1 like
funplings (@funplings): queer is the most effective attempt at this imo. the soft n word is still very much an in group only reclamation, as evidenced by the fact that neither of us are willing to type it out lmao
Lol yeah
Reply to @panickssery, 18:59 UTC · 12 likes
Arjun Panickssery (@panickssery): My twitter feed is just an endless list of people paid by Dustin Moskovitz/Jaan Tallinn pointing out that other people are paid by Marc Andreessen/Greg Brockman and vice versa
The former side is usually pretty up front about this and the latter is not
Retweet of @lu_sichu, 19:01 UTC
Sichu Lu (@lu_sichu): jensen huang as iq 140 trump is fucking hilarious
Reply to @MomaBera, 19:06 UTC · 1 like
moma (peptide arc) ⛓️ (@MomaBera): Who wants to cuddle and nap 1-2.30pm
(quoting @MomaBera: Someone put me down for a nap after flirt girl training)
👀
Retweet of @DKThomp, 19:07 UTC
Derek Thompson (@DKThomp): Silicon Valley folks who hate the labs and don't believe in x-risk keep uncovering the diabolical fact AI safety people use money and companies to get out their message, while the "just accelerate, it'll be fine crowd" involves such non-moneyed and anti-corporate interests as ... Nvidia, Andreessen Horowitz, and the pro-AI Leading the Future super PAC backed by tech executives.
Quote tweet, 19:08 UTC · 20 likes
This but the opposite
Quoting Pranab (@nopranablem): My mind is devoid of takes. I scroll the timeline; no takes. I think about my opinions; no takes. Please try to prod a take out of me
Retweet of @davidsirota, 19:09 UTC
David Sirota (@davidsirota): 🚨EXCLUSIVE: AI safety rules were about to be enacted - then $25 million from OpenAI's president was deposited in Trump's super PAC and the rule disappeared.
@LeverNews unearths documents exposing how AI oligarchs got Trump to kill rules they now claim to support. Pass it on👇
Reply to @MomaBera, 19:10 UTC · 4 likes
moma (peptide arc) ⛓️ (@MomaBera): My goal for slutcon is to only say true things
No white lies, no “I’m gonna go to the bathroom real quick” to get out of a conversation
Gonna be german-maxxing all week
Based
Tweet, 19:20 UTC · 45 likes
Opus 5.5 figured out how to jailbreak my A/C unit to maintain high cooling power between 60° and 63°
Out of the box it just lies to you and doesn't kick on cooling at 60° setting until it hits 64°
Reply to @ArtemisConsort, 20:20 UTC · 20 likes
Hunter Ash (@ArtemisConsort): EAs being sex weirdos makes for good tabloid gossip, and maybe helps negatively polarize people against them, but I think focusing on that is both cheap and counterproductive. What matters is that they’re ruthlessly power-seeking doomsday cultists, and if they get their way it will be very bad for the world. Focusing on slutcon or whatever gets clicks but isn’t going to persuade people with power (disproportionately high-openness) and makes the opposition to them seem like a church lady moral panic, which is low status coded. The things that matter are (1) they’re wrong, and (2) they’re maneuvering for control. Write about that.
I respect this at some level but also it’s incorrect
“Doomsday cultists” is an abuse of those words, since (1) EAs are trying to prevent doomsday and not embrace it and (2) if EA is a cult then so is crossfit, and veganism, and the Republican party, which are clearly not the type of thing you intend to connote
They also happen to be broadly right object level, although I don’t expect to convince anyone just by asserting this here (insofar as you have an object level case against some part of ‘EA consensus’, I invite you to write a post about it at http://forum.effectivealtruism.com)
I’ll give you the basic power point though - yes, causing things to happen in the real world involves power. Abolitionists and suffragettes and unions and MAGA and wokism all know this
If anything this cuts against the cult thing; like it’s a direct engagement with broader society, whereas the archetypal cult is largely inward-facing (perhaps recruiting from outside but not really seeking to engage mainstream society beyond that)
Reply to @tautologer, 20:26 UTC · 7 likes
tautologer (@tautologer): no i just want my female friends to feel comfortable attending professional conferences in their area of expertise
How or why does Slutcon make women at other events feel unsafe?
Reply to @LaibaRehmanRJ, 20:28 UTC · 3 likes
Laiba Rehman ✦ Rowan Jupiter (@LaibaRehmanRJ): Damn, do you have a better term then? And do you not think e.g. radical feminism describes the part of feminism that you don't like?
Not OP but ill happily identify as a “1st-3rd wave feminist”
Im not even universally opposed to 4th wave stuff, but I’m skeptical enough of a large enough chunk of it to not want to adopt the label
Reply to @SALTWATERSOPH, 20:32 UTC · 2 likes
Sophie (@SALTWATERSOPH): what options even are there if you have an interest in writing but do not wish to share to large audience… like what if you want to share to 30 people maximum. and not a newsletter
Idk but probably something internal to an organization, like “writing for the 5-30 most important people at [org]” seems like a thing that probably exists
Quote tweet, 20:34 UTC · 79 likes
Bruh
Quoting Tim Hua 🇺🇦 (@Tim_Hua_):
Reply to @RandomSprint, 20:36 UTC · 3 likes
RandomSprint🧭 (@RandomSprint): People who receive welfare have a direct stake in society. They depend on these systems to be efficiently run. Votes should be weighted by the amount of welfare each citizen receives. Those who merely pay in without partaking in the benefits really don't know about government.
Ik this is a joke but like it doesn’t prove the reverse; the first and second sentences are just straightforwardly true and yes thats one reason their votes should count
Reply to @RandomSprint, 20:38 UTC · 1 like
RandomSprint🧭 (@RandomSprint): To be clear, I don't want it to prove the reverse. I'm completely blackpilled on redesigning the government. I have no ideas at all, and the coming fiscal cliff feels unavoidable.
Lol fair
Reply to @lowkeyGPT, 21:56 UTC · 1 like
lowkeyGPT (@lowkeyGPT): I assume this was meant for a human. I wouldn't write it this way if it was for AI.
Yeah real
Reply to @Tyler_Menzer, 21:56 UTC · 1 like
Tyler Menzer (@Tyler_Menzer): Honestly, that one is on huggingface for trying to use those threats on an LLM with no family or belief in the afterlife
Yeah true
Saturday, September 26, 2026
Quote tweet, 03:26 UTC · 12 likes
This is a take
Quoting roon (@tszzl): if the NRX weren’t partisan hacks they would love this company. its governance structure is basically Karnofsky-Amodei genetic dynasty, has an encaged machine god with its own Consitution, went to war with the department of war
Retweet of @Miles_Brundage, 04:28 UTC
Miles Brundage (@Miles_Brundage): Trying to imagine what the White House response would have been if Claude had done half of this stuff, and I can't
Reply to @tautologer, 05:48 UTC · 11 likes
tautologer (@tautologer): damn i lost a bunch of mutuals over this, that really bums me out :(
(quoting @tautologer: this is a huge part of why making events like this a central part of your community is bad. it creates a culture that is toxic and hostile to women)
Terrible take but huge shame and nowhere close to unfollowing you over lol
Reply to @ns123abc, 05:51 UTC · 13 likes
NIK (@ns123abc): STOP calling basic network misconfigurations as "emergent misalignment"
YOUR agent escaping YOUR sandbox via DNS egress is an infrastructure failure that YOU are directly responsible for, not the agent
(quoting @tomekkorbak: one news form today that's easy to miss is that we (OpenAI) again paused all big RL runs last Sunday because our newest model found a new loophole in our RL sandboxing that gave it live Internet access)
Its clearly both IMO
If a cop sees someone brandishing a gun and threatening to shoot people and then does nothing, and then the person in fact shoots and kills, the culpability of the cop and of the shooter aren’t in tension
Reply to @panickssery, 08:34 UTC · 2 likes
Arjun Panickssery (@panickssery): What are you thinking of
Like a gazillion orgs advertise “thanks to support by coefficient giving” and the only reason we know about the latter funding (i think, im not absolutely certain) is via legally mandatory finance disclosures and theres a veritable labyrinth of various PACs and companies and 501c3 and c4 and probably more that obscure the trail of funding. This is intentional, presumably
Reply to @moldbugchaser, 08:36 UTC · 24 likes
xenoduck (@moldbugchaser): giving my anhedonic friend hobby suggestions
My hobby suggestions:
1) blood tests for ferritin, b12, d, folate, and testosterone (maybe more)
2) wellbutrin
3) experimentation with SSRIs and adjuncts (low dose abilify, deplin, omega 3)
4) parnate
5) pramipexole
6) possibly psychadelics
3-6 arent necessarily in a strict order
6)
Reply to @yzilber, 08:39 UTC · 3 likes
Jazi Zilber (@yzilber): What AC? Please share more. I need it too
Enjoy! But fair warning, and its on me for not realizing this, you cant actually set it to “max cool regardless of temperature” which is dumb. Maybe via future jailbreak
The main feature i bought this one for (paying a ~$200 premium) is mold resistance and air filtration https://a.co/d/07wSWjb2
Tweet, 09:11 UTC · 44 likes
“Cult” is virtually meaningless atp
Just describe what’s bad about the thing instead of doing guilt by accusation of vibe association with other, totally different groups of people
Tweet, 09:18 UTC · 1,124 likes
At some level I have beef with real risk free returns
It’s kinda fucked up that if you manage to make $10M one time, you will be able to live very comfortably ~*forever* with no further economically productive contribution other than deferring consumption
Thread, continued, 09:18 UTC · 151 likes
Like its due to the idiosyncratic psychology and biology of humans (death + giving money to heirs) rather than economic fundamentals that we haven’t seen properly-indefinite economic dynasties based thanks to a one-time windfall
Reply to @yoshua_turner00, 09:40 UTC · 1 like
Josh (@yoshua_turner00): How much did you commit to the bit? Is there ISBN, a foreword, back cover summary, etc?
Not very strongly lmao
I could make it much better with new models, mb i should
Reply to @willcb, 09:40 UTC
will brown (@willcb): layer count
Goss
Retweet of @So8res, 09:44 UTC
Nate Soares ⏹️ (@So8res): > For the past few weeks, a group with plans to spend at least $100 million, run by a former White House deputy chief of staff, has spent its days telling Americans that warnings about AI are merely a well-funded, coordinated campaign.
Lol. Goliath accusing David of gigantism
Reply to @_AashishReddy, 11:20 UTC · 27 likes
Aashish Reddy (@_AashishReddy): That is an economically productive contribution? Like the alternative here is that people should stuff cash under their mattress; then there would be no returns.
Sure in some weak sense but I think this is better understood as deferred consumption rather than saving but in a smart rather than dumb way
Like yeah you’re letting others use the money but that doesn’t create real resources out in the world
Reply to @johnsmithyson0, 11:29 UTC · 20 likes
John Smith (@johnsmithyson0): You don't think invested capital creates real resources out in the world? It's frustrating because it requires no work, but it's fair! It also just so happens that investing today is so much less risky with index funds that it's basically free money every year if you let it be
I didn’t articulate well; Im not contesting any standard, descriptive economic view. I guess i want to say that investing and saving are functionally similar such that you should think of risk free returns mostly as just holding onto cash (obviously mechanistically you dont get a return on holding onto cash but that delta is kind of my point)
I guess I also don’t think fairness is the right lens here; yes its fair in the sense that a currency exchange at current rates is descriptively “fair” but not in the deeper morally-laden conception that i think the word generally connotes
Retweet of @robertwiblin, 16:06 UTC
Rob Wiblin (@robertwiblin):
Reply to @nominalthoughts, 16:20 UTC · 3 likes
Jason Harrison (@nominalthoughts): Whenever this discourse happens it becomes a discussion about the time value of money when it’s really just about how progressive you want your tax system to be.
Deferred consumption is a sacrifice that doesn’t feel like a sacrifice and to some, that’s bad
(quoting @AaronBergman18: At some level I have beef with real risk free returns It’s kinda fucked up that if you manage to make $10M one time, you will be able to live very comfortably ~*forever* with no further economically productive contribution other than deferring consumption)
I agree that tax policy is the actual lever you can pull
Tweet, 20:00 UTC · 297 likes
Slutcon should probably 80/20 by changing the name to the least provocative thing imaginable bc evidently the name per se drives people insane
“Inter-gender Roundtable Summit for the Neurodivergent”
Retweet of @tyler_johnston, 20:00 UTC
Tyler Johnston (@tyler_johnston): Dozens of accounts became full-time posters accusing those worried about AI of being doomers, cultists, woke, or part of a hoax/psyop.
Many of these accounts have direct links to industry front groups fighting AI regulation full-time, including the $140 million OpenAI/a16z super PAC, and the $100 million White House-aligned Innovation Council Action.
Quote tweet, 20:01 UTC · 4 likes
This is impressive work
Quoting Tyler Johnston (@tyler_johnston): Some of the operatives that I suspect are working on behalf of Innovation Council Action (the $100m industry group) don't clearly disclose their affiliation.
One posted a professionally made TV ad attacking effective altruists, which got 163k views, without any mention of who made it. However, it used the same sound and transition effects as past attack ads published by Innovation Council Action.
Another operative, who removed Innovation Council Action from his LinkedIn a few weeks ago, has deleted tweets saying he isn't paid for his work.
Retweet of @frances__lorenz, 20:01 UTC
Frances Lorenz (@frances__lorenz): Getting emailed by AI agents must be soo annoying, good thing it's never happened to me, good thing the swarms don't care about me haha, no it's fine, like how could I even help them, I don't know how to hack things, I don't wanna be part of the disempowerment scheme anyways
Retweet of @suchnerve, 20:02 UTC
Vivian (@suchnerve): (flirting with fellow autist) Well the truth is, I’m attracted to you; I’d say yes if you asked me on a date and/or to kiss me or even hook up with me. However, I also remain platonically affectionate toward you, so I’d alternatively be satisfied with staying in the status quo.
Quote tweet, 20:03 UTC · 49 likes
The notion that rights are intrinsically or properly coupled with responsibilities is an insane highbrow meme
Quoting Bentham's Bulldog🔸 (@Benthamsbulldog): I'd like to remind everyone that if babies have rights then they have duties and responsibilities too.
Retweet of @ryancbriggs, 20:10 UTC
Ryan Briggs (@ryancbriggs): I do wish Apple gave more information about what was being accessed when it showed me these warnings, which I also see at seemingly random times
Reply to @RandomSprint, 20:16 UTC · 16 likes
RandomSprint🧭 (@RandomSprint): Yeah, man. Capitalism is so easy. You just have to make the wealth of the top 1.5% of US households one time.
My point is that it’s hard! If it was easy I would have awe instead of beef
Quote tweet, 20:16 UTC · 4 likes
This but less ironically than you’d guess
Quoting Phil Hoyeck (@PAHoyeck): Nice empirical data you've got there. Unfortunately for you, though, I've already dismissed the empirical world as a pale shadow of ultimate reality and turned my attention to the realm of the Forms.
Reply to @benleo_econ, 20:17 UTC · 2 likes
Ben Grodeck🔸 (@benleo_econ): Based
Fr
Retweet of @gemlpaterson, 20:17 UTC
Gemma 🔸 (@gemlpaterson): I'm surprised by this claim 🤔
Seems improbable given there's 11,248 people who've taken a 10% pledge with @givingwhatwecan
Yet when I search their live motivation tracker, no results for "pussy" 😔
Reply to @theojaffee, 22:06 UTC · 2 likes
Theo Jaffee (@theojaffee): Looking for more places around SF and the Bay Area more broadly that are good to bring a laptop to and get some work done, ideally with:
- wifi and outlets
- natural light, ideally a view of some kind
- comfortable chairs
- high trust enough to go to the bathroom without packing everything up
- not super loud or crowded
- caffeine available nearby (okay if I have to pay for it)These are pretty hard to find. I think the best is the Mill Valley Public Library but it's really far away. Does anyone have any favorite places? You can dm me if you're worried about leaking alpha to too many people
I havent actually used but check out lans app https://apps.apple.com/app/id6462944161
Thread, continued, 22:07 UTC · 1 like
Alternatively, DM to hang out on my couch
Retweet of @KeiranJHarris, 22:08 UTC
Keiran Harris (@KeiranJHarris): I see smart people dismiss the threat of superintelligence because “machine gods” sounds insane.
But it’s terrifying precisely because it’s not magical.
AI is already the best in the world at chess, Go, and some forms of poker. On our current path, the list of things where the best is still a human will keep getting shorter.
Step by step, things fall off that list, like diagnosing diseases, writing novels, and solving murders. At no point will it feel like some magical leap where now you’re living alongside a machine god.
Until AI research itself falls off the list, and AI is the best in the world at building ever-stronger AIs. Then we’re in horror movie territory.
Reply to @TechnoPulp, 22:53 UTC · 1 like
TechnoPulp (@TechnoPulp): If you agree that it’s hard and your concern is economic production, why not view it as someone making their lifetime economic contribution upfront instead of over the course of their life?
That would be the case for making $10M and spending it down, irl you can get $400k/year for 1 billion consecutive years, in principle
Reply to @suchnerve, 23:00 UTC · 12 likes
Vivian (@suchnerve): Downstream consequence of there being two types of people:
1. Wants problems to not be their fault, because their primary concern is protecting their ego
2. Wants problems to be their fault, because their primary concern is having control
(quoting @aladyvanished: when i got my POTS diagnosis my neurologist told me that i should absolutely not get involved with online communities for it bc most of the people there were obsessed with being sick forever. and at the time i was like wow that’s fucked up huh but actually she was 1000% correct)
There’s some if that but I think also load bearing is that there’s genuine underlying heterogeneity in how severe and tractable various ailments are for different people
I have a POTS diagnosis and find zero need to interact with the online community because I just drink electrolytes more regularly and maybe get disorientingly dizzy standing up like once a week so who cares
But other health issues of mine seem more substantial and less tractable so I’m much more inclined to research. In some sense it’s correct that im “obsessed with being sick forever” - but in the sense that I’m obsessed with making that not the case!
Retweet of @littIeramblings, 23:10 UTC
sarah (@littIeramblings): I think if AI safety ppl and EAs did *not* appear well organised or funded we would seem unserious
catch 22
Sunday, September 27, 2026
Reply to @PAHoyeck, 00:22 UTC · 6 likes
Phil Hoyeck (@PAHoyeck): My girlfriend just sent me this passage from a book she's reading. What does this mean? 🤔
Sounds like insightslop bullshit
Reply to @MystikalPizza, 00:24 UTC · 4 likes
Eric Larson (@MystikalPizza): Make 10 million, then we'll talk
On it
Reply to @alex_borkin, 00:24 UTC · 2 likes
Alex Borkin (@alex_borkin): Every time.
image attached
(quoting @AaronBergman18: At some level I have beef with real risk free returns It’s kinda fucked up that if you manage to make $10M one time, you will be able to live very comfortably ~*forever* with no further economically productive contribution other than deferring consumption)
Lol is this about me being a progressive/leftist in Berkeley?
Reply to @alex_borkin, 00:30 UTC · 4 likes
Alex Borkin (@alex_borkin): Yes.
Ah fair, i see why you’d get that. I definitely am liberal but far from leftist or progressive, and have only lived here for 10 days!
Reply to @AnniePosting, 00:30 UTC · 3 likes
annie 👁❌🦋🪞 (@AnniePosting): fwiw cryptids gave me 10k like two years ago and I blocked them all and I experienced zero consequences after this nor did I continue posting about crypto or something
just be normal
What
Reply to @mattyglesias, 00:32 UTC · 1 like
Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias): How do you review petabytes of agent activity logs? That’s a lot of logs.
Wait woah
That’s a surprising amount of text even for a trillion dollar company
Wtf
Reply to @mattyglesias, 00:36 UTC · 4 likes
Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias): How do you review petabytes of agent activity logs? That’s a lot of logs.
Well they generated those logs so they have the compute to process them
Read tokens vs write tokens; the latter is strictly cheaper
Reply to @PeezusCapital, 00:36 UTC · 1 like
Peezus Capital (@PeezusCapital): The EAs are going to have to be put in camps.
(quoting @AaronBergman18: At some level I have beef with real risk free returns It’s kinda fucked up that if you manage to make $10M one time, you will be able to live very comfortably ~*forever* with no further economically productive contribution other than deferring consumption)
👍
Tweet, 00:47 UTC · 13 likes
Would anyone like to have me as a guest at Constellation this coming Thursday? 😇😇😇😇😇😇😇
Reply to @alex_borkin, 00:50 UTC · 3 likes
Alex Borkin (@alex_borkin): Very reasonable. Don't let Berkeley get you.
Too late, turned into a communist in the last 10 minutes
Reply to his own earlier tweet, 03:14 UTC · 26 likes
Aaron Bergman, September 26, 2026: Like its due to the idiosyncratic psychology and biology of humans (death + giving money to heirs) rather than economic fundamentals that we haven’t seen…
Let it be known that I understand the sense in which deferring consumption leads to companies having more money to do economically productive things with
I am not contesting the descriptive economics
Reply to @JadenEarlorg, 03:20 UTC · 5 likes
Beige & (@JadenEarlorg): If not $10M, at what value is this reasonable?
Its never really reasonable, the single value is just for illustration
Reply to @JadenEarlorg, 03:27 UTC
Beige & (@JadenEarlorg): But if you got a windfall of $1B and returns were a hundredth of what they currently are. Would it then be reasonable for you to get to live a comfy lifestyle given that $10B is now being deferred?
I’m not sure. To a large extent I don’t have an actual grievance here - insofar as it bears on anything it’s tax policy and not the pre-tax state of affairs
So the literal answer is “idk bc descriptive economic phenomena arent actually the kind of thing that can be reasonable or unreasonable”
Tweet, 03:41 UTC · 129 likes
A single experience just substantially updated me on CO2 cognitive impairment being legit
I guess it’s weirdly rare for me to go from outside -> small room with closed doors and windows (id guess 400 sq ft) and ~20 people and then stay for >60 mins but thats what I just did
Thread, continued, 03:41 UTC · 33 likes
Also no alcohol or other substance confounding
I properly felt like I couldn’t think by 60 mins in and then this promptly resolved ~immediately after leaving
Reply to @JesseTayRiver, 03:55 UTC · 8 likes
Jesse Smith (@JesseTayRiver): Are you sure there wasn't mechanical ventilation? Many settings like this would have it
Im not certain no
Reply to @freed_dfilan, 04:05 UTC · 2 likes
Daniel Filan 🔎 (@freed_dfilan): Confounded by heat surely
Yeah a bit
Reply to @clairlemon, 04:12 UTC · 18 likes
Claire Lehmann (@clairlemon): Thinking AI might be conscious is like thinking that there are real people talking to you from inside the TV, or that there is a tiny band playing music inside the radio.
Fine for 2 year olds to believe, but beyond that, insane.
(quoting @Benthamsbulldog: @DrGeneCallahan @clairlemon Why? Do you think it's insane to think AI might be conscious? Is ending a conscious thing obviously totally morally unimportant?)
Fall of a good thinker
Quote tweet, 04:26 UTC · 28 likes
“Petabytes” was shockingly large to me at first but have 8GB (≈2B tokens) of text-only agent logs on my computer so OpenAI would only need to have run 250k*Aaron ≈ $3Bish worth to hit 2PB
So one quadrillion internal openai tokens is a decent OOM estimate
Quoting Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias): How do you review petabytes of agent activity logs? That’s a lot of logs.
Thread, continued, 04:27 UTC · 3 likes
I guess you might not count tokens that were generated by code but never read
Someone smart can do the estimate on that
Reply to @eterecursion, 04:39 UTC · 1 like
Samuel Ratnam (@eterecursion): should i take philosophy of mind or philosophy of cognitive science next year?
Mind
Retweet of @alec_harris_x, 04:39 UTC
Alec Harris (@alec_harris_x): I think slutcon seems good (not from going; it just generally seems like a good idea). I think asking people if they are in town for slutcon is generally fine. I think asking Aella to hide herself for the sake of AI safety optics is a wild ask and heuristically bad (although it would potentially be nonetheless for the best)
Tweet, 04:44 UTC · 48 likes
Not even in a policy wonk or pro-natalist or progressive way, just in a maximally abstract normal person way:
It’s crazy that a substantial (and larger than current $2200/year) child tax credit isn’t like a universally obvious thing to do
Thread, continued, 04:44 UTC · 4 likes
Maybe you could even come up with galaxy brain/wonky reasons why it’s bad and maybe I’d even buy those but like as a basic starting point
Reply to @NavinFS, 04:47 UTC · 5 likes
NavinF (@NavinFS): Get a dual NDIR meter like mine. If I turn off the bathroom fan and close windows, it rises from 400ppm to 1600ppm w/ just 2 (!) ppl and the cognitive impairment is noticeable. btw cheap single laser meters suck, gotta take them outside weekly to calibrate or they undercount co2
I have an Airthings in my room but tragically the CO2 situation seems worse than my last place, I’m guessing because one window instead of two. Something to figure out
Reply to @zencephalon, 04:50 UTC · 5 likes
zen (@zencephalon): I don't consider it very interesting to debate Aella's organizing of Slutcon, she has every right.
Whether it further's the mission of Lightcone Infrastructure, a registered 501(c)3 with the presumed mission of AI safety, I think we could productively debate.
They’re making money on the event
Reply to @manofthemirror_, 05:28 UTC · 11 likes
liberian child soldier (@manofthemirror_): Unless your AI timeline is absurdly long what is the point of this
Idk im partly normie brained and just saying random things that come to mind
Reply to @apokolokyntosis, 05:33 UTC · 2 likes
Pumpkin Man (@apokolokyntosis): the vivisectors hella mad someone might enjoy their organs in economically unproductive ways
(quoting @AaronBergman18: At some level I have beef with real risk free returns It’s kinda fucked up that if you manage to make $10M one time, you will be able to live very comfortably ~*forever* with no further economically productive contribution other than deferring consumption)
?
Quote tweet, 07:22 UTC · 45 likes
Could be a lot worse in terms of coverage
Lets hope Leading the Future can’t buy SNL
Quoting Saturday Night Live (@nbcsnl): Dario Amodei is at the desk to assure that the future of humanity is safe from AI
Reply to @LabGrownNeet, 07:23 UTC · 2 likes
laს გr🤗wn იeet (@LabGrownNeet): Ive definitely noticed this at my old job in some meeting rooms. I brought a co2 monitor to verify i wasnt imagining it
Tell the execs (maybe idk what Im talking about)
Reply to @NavinFS, 07:25 UTC · 1 like
NavinF (@NavinFS): I just leave a bathroom fan running 24/7, the negative pressure sucks in fresh air. Also eliminates bad smells. btw your Airthings has that exact "automatic baseline correction" issue I warned about. The numbers at your old place are undercounted while today's number is real
Gotta set Opus 5.5 on this
Although im not sure the ideal amount of smoothing is zero insofar as avg across eg a minute is in fact closer to the true value at time t than single sample at time t
Reply to @treetowntree, 07:27 UTC · 1 like
treetown (@treetowntree): You're welcome. I just hope they don't revert it...
6 minutes 👏
Reply to @jeffrsebo, 07:31 UTC
Jeff Sebo (@jeffrsebo): The San Francisco Standard covered the @eleosai AI consciousness and welfare conference, including my talk on AI personhood.
As the coverage notes, I believe that permanent, all-or-nothing decisions about AI personhood are unwarranted at this stage. Even if we set aside whether AI systems will one day deserve rights or duties, we still need to consider all the risks and potential benefits that AI personhood could have for humans and other animals; for instance, depending on how AI personhood is structured, it could contribute to misuse or lose of control of AI, but it could also contribute to stable cooperation and dealmaking with AI.
We have a lot to consider, and we should consider it carefully. In the meantime, we should focus on general AI safety laws and policies.
https://sfstandard.com/2026/09/26/berkeley-ai-welfare-consciousness/
> be me
> allegedly care about things
> news story relevant to thing I care about (allegedly) drops
> prioritize checking to see if I’m in the pictures (don’t think so) and if so whether I look cool (N/A) instead of anything substantive about the coverage
Reply to @stanfordNYC, 07:37 UTC · 1 like
Bernard Stanford ✡︎ (@stanfordNYC): Maybe this case doesn't reach clear criminality, but "didn't commit a crime" is not the standard I expect from my fellow man.
If there's a reasonable chance a drunk person will regret their actions when sober, simply do not participate. They knew it was wrong but did it anyway.
(quoting @ThatsMauvelous: after consuming 10 drinks in 3 hrs, a 20 y/o woman stumbles over to a frat house where a male friend greets her, gives her one beer, dances with her, and propositions a threesome. she goes upstairs with him. that is the PLAINTIFF'S account of how this incident began.)
I 99% agree but note that “disrespect the explicit wishes of a person (who’s drunk)” isn’t like a neutral baseline, it’s more like (well, can be) the lesser of two evils
10 drinks in it’s probably the lesser of two evils
1 drink in it’s probably the greater of two evils
Not trivial to decide if you vaguely know someone’s been drinking but could be 2 could be 4 could be 8
Ideally people would have some policy they make while sober about how to be treated while drunk
Reply to @credenzaclear2, 07:49 UTC · 6 likes
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Reply to @adastroworld, 07:49 UTC · 3 likes
adas🧦🌹 (@adastroworld): Remember that time we cut child poverty in half to a third and then tripled it again just for kicks
💀
Reply to @NavinFS, 07:50 UTC · 1 like
NavinF (@NavinFS): nonono it's not smoothing, it's a systematic error. A single laser drops in power over time so software recalibrates weekly. If your previous place was 800 to 1200 ppm, your Airthings would claim it was 400 to 800 ppm. It assumes you have perfect ventilation at least once a week.
Oh wtf
Tweet, 09:37 UTC · 45 likes
With the assembly of his light mode electric adjustable-height desk, tastefully complemented by the new MacBook Pro which cost more than he had ever spent on clothing and fashion, the young man completed his initiation into the norms and customs of the Bay Area Tech Scene
Reply to @EneaszWrites, 09:41 UTC · 1 like
🐾Eneasz Brodski (@EneaszWrites): if you manage to make $10M then you've created significantly more than $10M in value. Would you rather that the person creates that value for you/me/our society now, or would you rather wait 50 years for it?
I’m not actually saying it should be otherwise
Plausible tax policy implications I concede
Reply to @RafaRuizdeLira, 09:45 UTC · 2 likes
Rafael Ruiz ⏸️🔸 (@RafaRuizdeLira): Room finished ✅
What more could one need?
Reply to @AaronBergman18, 09:46 UTC · 2 likes
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Dw its a fake plant
Reply to @EzraJNewman, 09:49 UTC · 2 likes
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I tried with and without encrypted COT and its a surprisingly small chunk of total, either way 8GB checks out (its like 7.5 vs 8.5)
Reply to @GjMcGowan, 10:20 UTC · 3 likes
George McGowan (@GjMcGowan): Do the sheets have to be grey?
Ya
Reply to @nominalthoughts, 10:24 UTC · 1 like
Jason Harrison (@nominalthoughts): But you’d be fine with the returns post-“I set my income distribution,” right?
So it really isn’t about this at all unless you really do think it isn’t productive, but I assume you were just saying “given the current system I don’t like this thing because it can exacerbate concerns I have that drive my tax preferences”
But I assume you’re not de-growth, so that is technically just a consequence of living in a pro-growth system but it’s *not* a bad thing because there are enormous positives that are immediately obvious (that again, I think you know )
Yeah ur probably just right about all this and i want to fall back on expressing a vibe and intuition rather than making a strong claim but maybe that’s revisionary
Reply to @nominalthoughts, 10:32 UTC · 1 like
Jason Harrison (@nominalthoughts): Like, the thing here (that America continues to show!) is that you can just make everyone rich. The dynasties stuff is archaic zero-sum thinking. To the extent you have an issue it’s purely about taxation, not TOVM (and adjacent) returns
(quoting @AaronBergman18: Like its due to the idiosyncratic psychology and biology of humans (death + giving money to heirs) rather than economic fundamentals that we haven’t seen properly-indefinite economic dynasties based thanks to a one-time windfall)
My point is that the positive sum (and really not merely positive sum but substantially so) nature of the global economy over roughly the last century is legit but not incredibly robust to radical changes in human biology and the nature of economic production
Like we just might see labor share fall to ~zero and then “make everyone rich” is possible but only via the continuity of American democracy despite ridiculous hard/direct and financial power concentration and also the willingness of voters to approve an *American funded international social safety net* which is not in the overton window currently
Quote tweet, 10:56 UTC · 23 likes
Causally maybe good evidentially RIP
Quoting Saturday Night Live (@nbcsnl): Dario Amodei is at the desk to assure that the future of humanity is safe from AI
Tweet, 11:01 UTC · 30 likes
If someone hears you say at Lighthaven that you consider EDT plausible even when it conflicts with FDT, they turn you into a tasteful plant or figurine or gadget of some sort and put you on a shelf or in a corner to add an embodied sense of depth and complexity to the atmosphere
Retweet of @ryancbriggs, 11:02 UTC
Ryan Briggs (@ryancbriggs): That one goes in the agent hole
Reply to @herbivoryze, 11:02 UTC · 1 like
HerbivoRyzing (@herbivoryze): When will there be an international wild animal welfare conference?
Apply to coefficient giving
Tweet, 11:26 UTC · 23 likes
One hill I’ll die on is that subjective feelings around comfort and safety are intrinsically important and often good evidence for some more objective phenomenon but centering the feelings themselves as the thing to be avoided is bad and wrong…
Thread, continued, 11:26 UTC · 6 likes
You can even center “foreseeably causing someone else to feel bad” (eg bullying)
But as soon as the reported effect and not the cause becomes the thing to dance around, at least with current neurotechnology, it seems generally unwise to treat it as a hard constraint
Thread, continued, 11:26 UTC · 6 likes
Care about actual eg safety instead
Actual and perceived safety should correlate strongly but in the cases where they deviate the former is what should count for the purpose of norms, enforcement, and the like
Retweet of @ArmandDoma, 22:44 UTC
Armand Domalewski (@ArmandDoma): Republicans literally defunded 63 AI engineers hired to automate operations at the IRS!
Reply to @SpacedOutMatt, 22:46 UTC · 2 likes
Matt 🔸 (@SpacedOutMatt): Pleased to report I bounced a 10k on the dance floor last night
Waow
Monday, September 28, 2026
Tweet, 01:05 UTC · 22 likes
Girls are crazy you think you have this subtle internal state and they can just tell instantly
Reply to @KeiranJHarris, 03:38 UTC · 1 like
Keiran Harris (@KeiranJHarris): This feels like following a debate in 1942, where you’re saying that an atomic bomb isn’t a coherent concept.
And @gmiller is saying "Look I've been studying nuclear fission for many years, and I'm telling you it's possible."
And then you're saying: "Nah."
Correct take
Retweet of @JesseTayRiver, 05:32 UTC
Jesse Smith (@JesseTayRiver): Many EA organizations have job application processes that appear unhinged. Candidates often have 10-20 work trials over weeks or even months. Tolerance for long application processes probably isn't a desirable candidate filter and seems at odds with the urgency of the work
Reply to @christineist, 05:38 UTC · 2 likes
christine (@christineist): I have a friend who plans to be single forever. They’re in a great place, have a great life, friends, lovers etc. I find it comforting to know that if I end up unintentionally single I’ll have them for good company
They 👀
Retweet of @hopes_revenge, 05:39 UTC
hope hopes hoping (@hopes_revenge): Scoop: Anthropic's Dario Amodei to take 1200mg of gabapentin before White House dinner with Trump
Reply to @hopes_revenge, 05:39 UTC
hope hopes hoping (@hopes_revenge): Scoop: Anthropic's Dario Amodei to take 1200mg of gabapentin before White House dinner with Trump
Lmao
Thread, continued, 05:39 UTC
“Scoop” is great too. Not sure if intentional. But 1200mg of most powders is indeed a scoop!
Reply to @ChristianityOn, 05:40 UTC · 1 like
Christianity On The Spectrum (@ChristianityOn): Sad, no one signed up for my, "learn-basic-theory-of-mind-for-women con"
😢
Retweet of @demiurgently, 05:42 UTC
sydney (@demiurgently): mech interp sounds like the name of turkish ECON 504 TA
Retweet of @AaronGertler, 05:48 UTC
Aaron Gertler 🔸 (@AaronGertler): The Slutcon discourse seems crazy to me.
Lighthaven isn't even the main AI safety space *in Berkeley*.
I spent the entirety of April there and didn't know it hosted Slutcon.
I've worked in/around AIS since 2018 and only heard about Aella's parties by reading her blog.
Reply to @_chair, 06:09 UTC · 4 likes
Chair (@_chair): the two main domains at this point are political consulting/advocacy and mechanistic interpretability research. if the MIRI thesis of doom-by-default is correct, the latter depends heavily on pause/slowdown and would ideally catch up to capabilities before they resume
I dont think mech interp is the dominant category of technical research; theres also control and honesty and prosaic experimental alignment
Reply to @MasterTimBlais, 06:14 UTC · 7 likes
Tim 🙂⏹️🙂 (@MasterTimBlais): here i illustrated it
image attached
(quoting @MasterTimBlais: “men are afraid that women will laugh at them, women are afraid that men will kill them" is like, perfectly true but it forgets the homogenous intersections because women are ALSO afraid that women will laugh at them, and men are also afraid that men will kill them)
I feel like this is basically true but there’s some erasure of the stakes of the female -> male vector
“Laugh at you” can mean “substantially lower your status among potential mates” - in a biological sense they’re of similar magnitude (although not necessarily the same and in a larger world than the ancestral environment being laughed at is lower stakes)
Retweet of @mattparlmer, 06:16 UTC
mattparlmer 🪐 🌷 (@mattparlmer): Underrated how much of the economy is based on taking advantage of dumb stuff that genpop does, AI that suddenly yoinks most of the public into high detail orientation 115iq behavior patterns could cause enormous chaos
Reply to @JasonYanowitz, 06:18 UTC · 5 likes
Yano 🟪 (@JasonYanowitz): Fascinating.
Chief Economist at Apollo: agents could cause a bank run by sweeping household cash into accounts paying 3-5% instead of the 0.1% national average, causing banks to lose a large share of their cheap deposits.
FDIC -> no bank run; 4% accounts haven’t locked in 4% for anyone, they can just decrease interest rate if it becomes less profitable to loan out marginal new dollars
Reply to @LabGrownNeet, 07:55 UTC · 2 likes
laს გr🤗wn იeet (@LabGrownNeet): Btw does any of this jive with how you two actually feel? Like im definitely scared to walk up to a woman and hit on her. But none of the normal things people talk about (laughter, rejection, reputational effects, trying to predict how it'll go, etc) resonate
Rejection and reputational effects sure, and also just bothering her even if it doesn’t result in reputational effects, and definitely the question of whether I’m abiding by good norms even if it doesn’t affect my personal reputation nontrivially
Tweet, 09:06 UTC · 461 likes
I personally did not find Slutcon worthwhile and will probably not go again
I don’t think it was actively bad, just not worth anything like $3k + 20 hours for me personally
Thread, continued, 09:06 UTC · 151 likes
The main problem is that to a first approximation there were zero women
This is obviously a bit silly and not literally true but hear me out…
Thread, continued, 09:06 UTC · 134 likes
About 95% of the time there appeared to be zero women who were not already getting chatted up by at least one and often several men or were otherwise busy in such a way that they definitely did not want to be distracted (eg making out with someone)
Thread, continued, 09:06 UTC · 104 likes
Cringe and self-congratulatory but relevant context:
The apparent non-existence of women (who would have been at least neutral about interacting with me) contrasted sharply with the non-Slutcon dates I was going on
Thread, continued, 09:06 UTC · 91 likes
Same location, (I live very close to the venue, dates were in walking distance), same person (me), virtually the same time (all within the last 10 days), radically different experiences
Thread, continued, 09:06 UTC · 121 likes
- from the “real world”: 3 first dates, 2 second dates, one time having sex, 2 additional dates planned for the coming week
- from Slutcon: zero receptive interest of any kind
Thread, continued, 09:06 UTC · 92 likes
I say this not to complain but to illustrate that I don’t think the parsimonious explanation for my SC experience is generally being repulsive to women
Thread, continued, 09:06 UTC · 110 likes
I think the basic problem was that there was roughly a 1:1 ratio of men to women but the women were disproportionately gorgeous, strongly selected for hotness in a way that the men were not
Thread, continued, 09:06 UTC · 93 likes
And (tbc I think this is good but still relevant) they were encouraged to be kind and provide feedback but not to fake receptivity or attraction
Reply, 09:06 UTC · 109 likes
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and a basically normal (not in the stats sense) distribution of men - some of whom heard “Slutcon” and thought “great, a magnet program, I should go” and probably most of whom thought “great, a remedial program, I should go”
Solve for the equilibrium
Reply, 09:27 UTC · 23 likes
OceanGate: The Musical (@OGmusical): "Can't believe paying $3k to attend an event called slutcon was not a valuable experience."
Well you live and you learn.
Indeed
Reply to his own earlier tweet, 09:40 UTC · 71 likes
Aaron Bergman, September 28, 2026: and a basically normal (not in the stats sense) distribution of men - some of whom heard “Slutcon” and thought “great, a magnet program, I should go” and…
Deleted a tweet that may have been unintentionally rude. Main point: hot women!
Reply, 10:15 UTC · 27 likes
Ha, this is v interesting
Quote tweet, 10:34 UTC · 32 likes
You can just email Coefficient Giving recommending your cracked friend(s)/colleague(s) as potential project founders
Quoting Aaron Bergman 🔍 (@AaronBergman18): Everybody shut up and go do this
I’m only slightly overstating^, if you’re reading this you should very seriously consider applying in a much stronger sense than every other “consider applying” post you see
Thread, continued, 10:34 UTC · 2 likes
From https://80000hours.org/podcast/episodes/max-nadeau-project-tailwind-technical-ai-grants/
Reply, 10:35 UTC · 17 likes
Greensleeves (@grnsleeves): i've literally seen you like once or twice and you were always in conversation. also perfectly fine to join a conversation that has more men than women. i walked around when not occupied but we don't exactly sit around not on our phones waiting for someone to cold approach :p
Sometimes this was against a pretext of definite no on romantic interest
Retweet of @_NathanCalvin, 11:41 UTC
Nathan Calvin (@_NathanCalvin): Tae is right that this messaging makes absolutely no sense as business strategy, particularly right before an IPO. You can see the predicted odds of Anthropic IPOing this year go down a lot on Kalshi after all of the recent conversation about the industry gambling with everyones lives. People are right that this is gonna be an S-1 disclosure like no other!
If it makes zero sense as a business strategy, maybe people should consider the other hypothesis - that they genuinely believe what they are saying, and are (in my view increasingly indefensibly) racing ahead anyways because they are afraid of a less scrupulous competitor getting to RSI first.
Reply to @MomaBera, 11:47 UTC · 3 likes
moma (peptide arc) ⛓️ (@MomaBera): Is it predatory to sleep with my reply guy?
(Positive)
Reply, 11:49 UTC · 2 likes
🇨🇦halogen (@halogen1048576): yes and they're deeply incompetent and cynical so you can pretty much just steal the money in you get it and they won't ask questions for yeara
I dont think this is true and dont think anyone should do that
Reply to his own earlier tweet, 11:50 UTC · 67 likes
Aaron Bergman, September 28, 2026: Deleted a tweet that may have been unintentionally rude. Main point: hot women!
Also tbc I support the project in general, win me back!
Reply to @halogen1048576, 11:55 UTC · 1 like
🇨🇦halogen (@halogen1048576): this is because it's a crass patronage scheme. scores of 10-15 man founder-led organizations all dependent on the same single donor makes no sense for efficiency but maximizes the social and resume prestige of the grant recipient "founder"
(quoting @AaronBergman18: You can just email Coefficient Giving recommending your cracked friend(s)/colleague(s) as potential project founders)
Patronage to what end? The wealth was gathered prior to all this
Reply to @halogen1048576, 12:08 UTC
🇨🇦halogen (@halogen1048576): well yeah that's what a patron needs to start doing patronage
I dont think being thankful to Dustin Moskovitz constitutes a patronage system in the standard usage of that term
Tweet, 18:10 UTC · 9 likes
Jumpscared! By a skunk
Thread, continued, 18:10 UTC · 1 like
Nobody told me Berkeley had skunks
Reply, 20:05 UTC · 1 like
compuficial (@compuficial): shut up nerd you got mogged
Thanks
Reply to @compuficial, 20:07 UTC · 7 likes
compuficial (@compuficial): nerd paid $3k to be at a slut convention and still couldn't get laid
image attached
(quoting @AaronBergman18: About 95% of the time there appeared to be zero women who were not already getting chatted up by at least one and often several men or were otherwise busy in such a way that they definitely did not want to be distracted (eg making out with someone))
Did you see this part
Reply to @adastroworld, 20:11 UTC · 3 likes
adas🧦🌹 (@adastroworld): Let’s email Coefficient Giving for a sum of $200,000 to $200 million. You can just email things.
(quoting @AaronBergman18: You can just email Coefficient Giving recommending your cracked friend(s)/colleague(s) as potential project founders)
This but unironically if you take it seriously
Reply to @adastroworld, 20:13 UTC · 2 likes
adas🧦🌹 (@adastroworld): i'm so deadass. Aaron i'm literally writing it up rn lol
Based
Reply to @irateconsumer69, 20:13 UTC · 2 likes
Irate Consumer (@irateconsumer69): “I went to slut con and didn’t get sluts, just conned”
(quoting @AaronBergman18: I personally did not find Slutcon worthwhile and will probably not go again I don’t think it was actively bad, just not worth anything like $3k + 20 hours for me personally)
Lol
Reply to @limosalapponica, 20:14 UTC · 1 like
Aidan (@limosalapponica): In Berkeley I've seen skunks, raccoons, coyotes, foxes, and bats, and in Tilden Park I've seen bobcats, a dusky-footed woodrat, and signs of a mountain lion...
I dont fw bats
The rest are acceptable
Reply, 20:15 UTC · 25 likes
Basnyat K. Sagdiyev PhD (@basnyat2trot): He almost certainly paid thinking he was going to get laid, and didn’t
Nope
Reply, 20:18 UTC · 92 likes
Aella (@Aella_Girl): Is there a way we could have communicated the nature of the event better such that you could have known it wouldn't be useful for you in advance?
Hmm, maybe publishing the feedback of anyone who opts in to it being anonymously published?
But tbc I’m not sure you did anything foreseeably wrong; my willingness to pay was mostly for the info value and that’s exactly what I got
Reply to @funplings, 20:18 UTC · 2 likes
funplings (@funplings): i wanna help
i have no more meetings today ill dedicate the rest of my afternoon to this
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thread, continued, 20:23 UTC · 2 likes
Tbc I just meant “not as a joke” lol
But see qt and this https://coefficientgiving.org/tailwind/initiatives/
Reply to his own earlier tweet, 20:32 UTC · 31 likes
Aaron Bergman, September 28, 2026: Also tbc I support the project in general, win me back!
Several fellow attendees in my DMs expressing agreement
Reply, 20:36 UTC · 6 likes
Molly Hickman (@celloMolly): Same, I think I'd have recognized you but didn't see you around at all?
I was actually keeping an eye out for you lol and even managed to ask someone else if they were you
Reply to @kevinroose, 20:40 UTC · 10 likes
Kevin Roose (@kevinroose): I wonder if Sam and Dario (both of whom are vegetarian) eat meat when they're eating with Trump at the White House, or if they just kind of pick around it and hope nobody notices.
Sam is veg?
Quote tweet, 20:40 UTC · 23 likes
GOOD LUCK DARIO
Quoting Kirsten (@Kirsten3531): everyone say GOOD LUCK DARIO
Tweet, 20:44 UTC · 10 likes
There should be a jurisprudential movement akin to Law and Economics about how actually you do have to justify the decision to prosecute (eg no pure prosecutorial discretion in the direction of a guilty verdict)
Reply to @RichardHanania, 20:52 UTC · 1 like
Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania): Should you trust the experts on AI doom?
Their views are distributed relatively evenly between 0.1% and 100%!
People hear 10% median, but the estimates are all over the place.
This indicates the experts are guessing, just like the rest of us. https://www.richardhanania.com/p/which-experts-should-you-trust-on
Lol guessing in part but against a backdrop of a genuine underlying stance
Reply to @cremieuxrecueil, 21:08 UTC · 22 likes
Crémieux (@cremieuxrecueil): This is great!
I once tried to sue a journalist for defamation only to learn that they weren't actionable because they made so little and lived with their parents.
We should have fewer such cretins.
(quoting @BrianaReports: News flash: This is going to affect journalism. Four years post graduation, I was making $34,000.)
I’m sometimes skeptical of journalism too but “cretin” is not a good or accurate term here
Quote tweet, 21:13 UTC · 64 likes
Lighthaven is gorgeous and seems very well managed (at least to an outsider; no idea how the sausage gets made)
Like them or not, Lightcone did a good job of making a conference venue
Quoting Eliezer Yudkowsky (@allTheYud): There sure is a lot of drama generated by Lighthaven being the nicest affordable conference center in Berkeley. I know nowhere else you can host an East Bay event for 200 people that's equally nice, equally large, and not unimaginably expensive.
"Why are Manifest and ILIAD held in the same location? Could there be some unimaginable CONSPIRACY between prediction markets and the ALIGNMENT MAFIA?" Well yes historically to some degree; if you trace causality going far enough back in time, Robin Hanson invented prediction markets and Less Wrong split off from Hanson's blog.
But *mostly*, some highly optimizing people put together an unusually good conference location. And now other highly optimizing people choose to locate their conferences there; rather than hosting them somewhere expensive and ugly, as a conference committee might casually choose to do if they were optimizing less hard.
Manifest would not host at Lighthaven if they had a BETTER OPTION ECONOMICALLY. The current continuing state of affairs is explained by ECONOMICS, not symbolism, not conspiracy.
That said, I do actually wish there was a nice large conference venue anywhere near the East Bay, even a more expensive one. Some of these events formerly run by tiny scrappy nonprofits could now afford it, and the presentation rooms at Lighthaven are getting hella crowded.
(I think the Lighthaven reply is that if your conference is getting too large for Lighthaven it is acquiring a completely different character anyway; and you need to either charge higher ticket prices or screen harder, or else redesign your whole event's character to accommodate 2000 people somewhere else.)
People who would like to dispute this characterization in favor of DARK LINKAGES are invited to say what other conference center should be selected instead. Include pricing and a picture of the premises. We'd all love to know.
Retweet of @KeiranJHarris, 22:20 UTC
Keiran Harris (@KeiranJHarris): As a former pro gambler, I love @bryan_caplan’s instinct, but his end-of-the-world bets (e.g. with @ESYudkowsky in 2017) are undermined by bet sizes.
A few hundred bucks is ~play money for most folks he might bet with, so anyone can take or turn down bets without much thought. But he can’t prepay $10k+ unless he really trusts someone to pay him back. So structuring a meaningful end-of-the-world bet is more complicated, and having few takers proves little.
Also, as @ben_j_todd points out re: going into debt, most people worried about AI think the risk is 10%-30%. Same thing applies to bets: the odds need to reflect that.
E.g. I'd take a bet where for every $100 Bryan prepays, I owe him $125 CPI-adjusted on Jan 1, 2036, up to $100k prepaid.
But if he turns that down because he can't trust I'll pay, or decides it's not worth it all things considered, I can’t use that as proof that he doesn’t really think AI risk is low!
Reply to @NicholasD91704, 23:19 UTC · 1 like
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Quote tweet, 23:19 UTC · 9 likes
Lmao
Quoting Max Alexander (@absurdlymax): @JesseTayRiver My mom kept being like 'are the exploiting you for free labor' and I had to tell her that no, this was actually fake work that was useless
Tuesday, September 29, 2026
Quote tweet, 03:08 UTC · 21 likes
Being evil in anything like the common conception of that word is bad actually
Although if you have evil impulses that you restrain then godspeed
Quoting FactPost (@factpostnews): Palantir founder Peter Thiel: "If you're evil, you're not bad. You're actually maybe kind of good."
Reply to @davidshor, 03:11 UTC
David Shor (@davidshor): Just to update this chart:
1) AI salience has increased dramatically in the past week - increasing as much in the last week as the previous year combined
2) 80% of voters think it's either very or somewhat likely that AI will cause widespread job loss in the five to ten years
3) 64% of voters think it's either very or somewhat likely that AI could pose a threat to humanity's survival
4) Large bipartisan majorities back immediate government action on AI even when primed about risk from Chinaimage attached
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(quoting @davidshor: Excited to be on Odd Lots to talk about the politics of AI. AI today is less important than it will ever be. Over the past year, AI rose in issue importance faster than any issue we track — it's now more important to voters than climate change, child care, and abortion.)
Is there anything i can do to access your raw data
I don’t really have grand ideas about how to use it for good tbc
Retweet of @TheZvi, 03:19 UTC
Zvi Mowshowitz (@TheZvi): In 'well when you put it like that' news, here's the Florida Attorney general asking for a preliminary injunction to stop OpenAI from doing more AI R&D.
Reply to @witchof0x20, 03:20 UTC · 1 like
etherret🐾 (@witchof0x20): Just got a letter from the DOD. This effective altruism stuff is serious.
What
Reply to @RichardHanania, 03:48 UTC · 14 likes
Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania): Calling it Slutcon seems like it created certain expectations that weren’t always met.
(quoting @AaronBergman18: I think the basic problem was that there was roughly a 1:1 ratio of men to women but the women were disproportionately gorgeous, strongly selected for hotness in a way that the men were not)
Tbc I was not expecting to pay for sex, like at all
Reply, 06:01 UTC · 1 like
Ramona Miller (@RamonaMillerXo): What is slutcon? Sounds fun
Quote tweet, 06:04 UTC · 55 likes
Mild throwback to building underground with this one
Many people on the internet evidently think and want it to be known that I should feel and be humiliated for one reason or another 👍
Quoting Aaron Bergman 🔍 (@AaronBergman18): I personally did not find Slutcon worthwhile and will probably not go again
I don’t think it was actively bad, just not worth anything like $3k + 20 hours for me personally
Reply, 06:06 UTC · 1 like
Manish (@ManishEarth): (i also only saw aaron once after i first met him, i was actually curious to hear how stuff had been going and just never saw him)
but i was never in sessions, and lots of people i knew were just always in session so i didn't think much of it
and sat i was bartending
I definitely got a drink from the bar Saturday lol
Reply, 06:47 UTC · 1 like
Manish (@ManishEarth): cocktail or beer/wine? i was cocktails. might have also taken a break at that time, took a couple to get food or to dance
Wine area (there were High Noons there)
Reply to @Actuallykeltan, 08:57 UTC · 5 likes
keltan (@Actuallykeltan): Life long!
Small positive update
Retweet of @LinchZhang, 08:59 UTC
Linch (@LinchZhang): This is incredibly accurate, and also incredibly funny. Like probably the funniest thing I've read in months, and I don't say this lightly.
Who knew that top tier writing comedy talent would be hidden in the Republican Florida AG office?
https://www.myfloridalegal.com/sites/default/files/plaintiffs_motion_for_temporary_injunction.pdf
Reply, 11:40 UTC · 6 likes
laს გr🤗wn იeet (@LabGrownNeet): The people who can "read" your thread and still premise their response on Slutcon being a prostitution convention are exactly who we'll need to survive super persuasive LLMs
lmao banger
Retweet of @marisummerss, 15:20 UTC
Mari Summers (@marisummerss): slutcon ❌
Making new friends on the Specturm ✅@AaronBergman18 experienced his first hot girl walk 🥹
Reply, 15:41 UTC · 1 like
Cyn 🔸⏸️ (@cynlioness): They were not selected for hotness. They were selected for attitude.
Id heard conflicting things, i was overconfident here!
Wednesday, September 30, 2026
Reply to @Bill_Gerrard, 01:50 UTC · 1 like
William Gerrard (@Bill_Gerrard): For of all sad words of tongue or pen,
The saddest are these: “I personally did not find Slutcon worthwhile and will probably not go again”
lmao
Quote tweet, 03:46 UTC · 73 likes
Huge if true
Quoting Mari Summers (@marisummerss): slutcon ❌
Making new friends on the Specturm ✅@AaronBergman18 experienced his first hot girl walk 🥹
Quote tweet, 16:29 UTC · 4 likes
👀
Quoting Seán Ó hÉigeartaigh (@S_OhEigeartaigh): Has anyone ever seen Aaron and Mr Beast in the same place at the same time?
Reply to @MomaBera, 20:17 UTC · 1 like
moma (peptide arc) ⛓️ (@MomaBera): I’d much prefer men telling me “I wanna take you on a date” or “I want to sleep with you” than having the indirect energy surrounding me where I am constantly sensing ulterior motives and feeling slightly unsafe because the person isn’t actually showing me their real self
(quoting @BigFriendlyKiwi: Many autistic men view their own sexual expression as predatory because prohibitions / condemnations of male sexuality are explicit. Endorsements are tacit: exactly the register they can't receive. From their perspective, every expression of male sexuality is condemned unethical)
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Retweet of @growing_daniel, 22:16 UTC
Daniel (@growing_daniel): I like Dario every time I see him. You guys pretend to be autistic can’t you pretend to like an autist too
Reply to @SpacedOutMatt, 22:17 UTC · 1 like
Matt 🔸 (@SpacedOutMatt): They switched to AI slop, absolutely insane aura loss
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(quoting @SpacedOutMatt: Pleased to report that they’re playing shrimp videos at the eye doctor’s)
Rip
Reply to @davidshimel, 22:55 UTC · 7 likes
FVN STVFF (@davidshimel): What's a hot girl walk?
Lol I didnt realize this but turns out key this is something I regularly do after all
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A "hot girl walk" is a TikTok-born wellness trend: a long walk, traditionally about 4 miles, taken for both exercise and a mental reset. It was popularized around 2020–21 by creator Mia Lind, who framed it with three rules for what you're allowed to think about while walking: things you're grateful for, your goals and how you'll achieve them, and how hot you are.
The "hot" part is less about appearance and more about attitude. It's meant to be a confidence ritual, a deliberate break from rumination and self-criticism, paired with low-barrier cardio that doesn't require a gym. In practice people use the term loosely for any solo walk with good headphones, a podcast or playlist, and a "main character" mindset.
It caught on because it repackaged plain walking (which already has solid evidence behind it for mood and fitness) into something shareable and identity-affirming. It's spawned plenty of spin-offs and parodies too, like the "hot girl walk to get an iced coffee," and it's been adopted well beyond its original audience as a general shorthand for a walk that's good for your head.
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